Gerald Henderson: Wake up from nap, get moved to Portland

[SlyPokerDog]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article31992384.html

 

[BBert]

What? He didn't sever all ties to Charlotte and proclaim Portland is the greatest? Blah blah blah trade him blah blah no loyalty blah blah he sucks blah blah.

 

[Trackjack]

I think it was a good trade for us. I think his skill set a lot ways better than Mattews.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

He'd be awesome if Aldridge decided to stay.

 

[0-Our!]

I think it was a good trade for us. I think his skill set a lot ways better than Mattews.

I think he's alright. He does brings some things Mathews didn't but I wouldn't go that far.

THE biggest/best part of the deal though was getting Vonleh

 

[Trackjack]

Re

I think he's alright. He does brings some things Mathews didn't but I wouldn't go that far.

THE biggest/best part of the deal though was getting Vonleh

Really how many times did Mattews take someone off the ball without losing it. Both players can post both play good defense and Mattews better at the 3 ball but Henderson better at the mid range game. Both decent free throw shooters. Henderson better on the break. So I have to give advantage Henderson.

 

[selloutking]

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Really how many times did Mattews take someone off the ball without losing it. Both players can post both play good defense and Mattews better at the 3 ball but Henderson better at the mid range game. Both decent free throw shooters. Henderson better on the break. So I have to give advantage Henderson.

Hendo is also better on the drive and finish IMO
BUT
Wes brought things to the court that cant be measured, not sure that Hendo will have that type of effect on the players around him like Wes has.

 

[Trackjack]

I agree Wes was the heart of the blazer last year he went down so did the blazer that why I question LMA leadership ability and truthfully I was not very sad when he left but I am excited about this team. For the reason they all play above the rim last year team play below the rim.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I think it was a good trade for us. I think his skill set a lot ways better than Mattews.

It definitely requires a change in our offense (he's really weak from long range outside of a couple of favorite spots), but his slashing is better than Wes's slashing.

 

[Trackjack]

Wes average 15.9 PTs a game that shooting mostly 3pt shot Henderson ave 12.9 without constant min. But there pretty close my thought is I think Henderson can match Wes numbers and me I don't care how he gets them if he has score more 2 PTs so be it I don't fall love with strictly 3 PTs shooters. But I enjoy a player that more balance and think is more balance then Wes.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wes average 15.9 PTs a game that shooting mostly 3pt shot Henderson ave 12.9 without constant min. But there pretty close my thought is I think Henderson can match Wes numbers and me I don't care how he gets them if he has score more 2 PTs so be it I don't fall love with strictly 3 PTs shooters. But I enjoy a player that more balance and think is more balance then Wes.

Compare their numbers. Per 100 possessions, they take the same number of shots, but Wes is significantly more efficient, making a higher percentage, along with making more 3's. I understand your contention that Henderson can match Wes' numbers, but to date he hasn't actually shown that.

 

[Trackjack]

Compare their numbers. Per 100 possessions, they take the same number of shots, but Wes is significantly more efficient, making a higher percentage, along with making more 3's. I understand your contention that Henderson can match Wes' numbers, but to date he hasn't actually shown that.

I don't compare those numbers what I compare how many mins each guy play and Mattews play a lot more mins than Henderson did and still only average 3 more points game I believe if he would have play the same amount of mins he would at least average as much or more than Mattews.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Compare their numbers. Per 100 possessions, they take the same number of shots, but Wes is significantly more efficient, making a higher percentage, along with making more 3's. I understand your contention that Henderson can match Wes' numbers, but to date he hasn't actually shown that.

Not a fair assessment. Jack is right. Wes was able to get into the flow with this offense and had more minutes. Wes had WAY more to work with than Gerald did.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Not a fair assessment. Jack is right. Wes was able to get into the flow with this offense and had more minutes. Wes had WAY more to work with than Gerald did.

No, not at all. Henderson has gotten 33mpg before; his TS% never approached Wes'. The minutes and "flow" are not the issue. Wes is simply a more efficient offensive player then Hendo, no matter how you look at the numbers.

 

[Hobbesarable]

No, not at all. Henderson has gotten 33mpg before; his TS% never approached Wes'. The minutes and "flow" are not the issue. Wes is simply a more efficient offensive player then Hendo, no matter how you look at the numbers.

Agree. Wes had a lower usage percentage in comparison to Henderson in each of the last 4 seasons while remaining, as you note, a more efficient offensive player.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Matthews > Henderson

 

[santeesioux]

Meh, this dude is going to be trade fodder at the deadline.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Meh, this dude is going to be trade fodder at the deadline.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[Trackjack]

I guess will see what Henderson does in a blazer uniform in pace that might suit him better then at Cha. I am not downing Wes don't get me wrong I thought he very good player. I am saying I think henderson can score as much in blazer uniform as Wes did and don't have anything to with each other stat because 15 PTs is 15 PTs and I don't care how they score them.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I guess will see what Henderson does in a blazer uniform in pace that might suit him better then at Cha. I am not downing Wes don't get me wrong I thought he very good player. I am saying I think henderson can score as much in blazer uniform as Wes did and don't have anything to with each other stat because 15 PTs is 15 PTs and I don't care how they score them.

I couldn't possibly disagree with this sentiment more.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I couldn't possibly disagree with this sentiment more.

k*be 15 pts on 6-48 shooting?

 

[BrianFromWA]

I think we found the one who would've loved LMA to average 40 ppg on 40 shots...

 

[Trackjack]

k*be 15 pts on 6-48 shooting?

Henderson is not Kobe that will chuck that many times.

 

[Trackjack]

I think we found the one who would've loved LMA to average 40 ppg on 40 shots...

LMA was good ball player and properly shot to many times when he wasn't on but he know different then any elite player that plays on any team in league or through NBA history there going to shoot a lot to get there points.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think offensive flow and who you are surrounded with means a lot. It can change a player as much as a player can change himself.

I am not saying that Henderson is better or worse. Just saying that the comparison of the past, I don't agree with. Wes had players around that help him to be more efficient. Henderson didn't. And that is fairly black and white isn't it?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Matthews > Henderson

I'd bet Henderson would kill Matthews in a game of 1 on 1 right now. Matthews is injured.

 

[jlprk]

I couldn't possibly disagree with this sentiment more.

Stop downing.

 

[mook]

Guys like Henderson, Davis and Vonleh are why I think Stotts is a dark horse candidate for coach of the year.

If you put Wes Matthews in the system these guys are coming out of, I really doubt he would have anywhere close to the contract he just got. Wes is the opposite of a good numbers/bad team player, simply because he can't create for himself. He needs ball movement, player movement, and somebody else drawing the defense's attention. Put him in a good offense and he'll look great. Put him in a terrible offense, and he'll be just another mediocre player (at least on the offensive end).

Coach of the Year usually goes to either a great team or a team that massively beat expectations. After the fiasco of our summer, it's hard to beat down expectations any further. But I've got a lot of faith in Stotts' ability to maximize the talents of these guys. These are Wes Matthews kind of players--talented guys who need motion on the offense (we'll definitely have with Stotts) and a superstar to play off of (which we hopefully have in Lillard).

 

[Orion Bailey]

Guys like Henderson, Davis and Vonleh are why I think Stotts is a dark horse candidate for coach of the year.

If you put Wes Matthews in the system these guys are coming out of, I really doubt he would have anywhere close to the contract he just got. Wes is the opposite of a good numbers/bad team player, simply because he can't create for himself. He needs ball movement, player movement, and somebody else drawing the defense's attention. Put him in a good offense and he'll look great. Put him in a terrible offense, and he'll be just another mediocre player (at least on the offensive end).

Coach of the Year usually goes to either a great team or a team that massively beat expectations. After the fiasco of our summer, it's hard to beat down expectations any further. But I've got a lot of faith in Stotts' ability to maximize the talents of these guys. These are Wes Matthews kind of players--talented guys who need motion on the offense (we'll definitely have with Stotts) and a superstar to play off of (which we hopefully have in Lillard).

I agree. As good as Wes was to the heart and soul of the Blazers, I think his on court play is over rated. He was only as good as the guys around him in my opinion and it allowed him to have MANY MANY open threes. Lets see how effiecient he is when he doesn't have a solid linup that plays well together.

Love the man but his play is overated in my book.

 

[riverman]

Areas Wes lacked skills...passing, dribbling, finishing layups and creating his own shot. Henderson is a better ball handler, finishes well at the rim better than Wes...Wes was a good defender, great 3pt shooter and posted up well for his size but his leadership was the icing on the cake.