Given the roster he had to work with this year, did Girardi do a good job?

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Given the roster he had to work with this year, did Girardi do a good job?

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yankeesince59 said:
...nothing to analyze...you want to switch the batting order in no particular way with no particular names...in other words, "this line up sux, I want it changed, but I have no idea how"....brilliant.
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Ummm....deep breath...exhale....let me try this once again.

I have already mentioned in post 17 what I would've tried...and I believe I DID SUBMIT A COUPLE OF NAMES to use WHEN THE BATTING ORDER WAS GOING TO BE SHAKEN UP.

And I did say....I would've put just about ANYONE ELSE in place of Tex IN THE 4TH or 5TH spot...NOT REPLACING HIM ON 1b. lol yeesh.
This includes Ichiro, Prado, Cervelli, Headley WHOEVER...just get Tex out of the middle of the lineup and drop him down.. NOT OUT of the lineup. I would've used 3 different players in the 3-4-5 spots on occasions INSTEAD of the usual Tex, McCann and Beltran. <--- those three would be dropped out of the middle of the order ON OCCASIONS.

Now please cut out the bullcrap. Stop trying to play word/mind games with me. Are you serious?
 
...please show where I have played word games...fact is, I have not.

...Prado and Headley?...seriously...how long have they been with the team?...that's your answer?...and you seriously think substituting a batter with a .733 OPS and another with a .702 OPS who played a handful of 2nd 1/2 games into the meat of the line up was going to make a difference in this team's season?

...and "ON OCCASIONS"?...wtf does that mean?...oh, I get it, you mean after the fact...gotcha.

...I also find it funny that you point to McCann, when you swore that "catching offense" was "not a problem".



...congrats, you've officially achieved cartoon status..
 
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yes 59, i did play this game professionally, and i was a dam good player, got 2 rings to prove just how good i was, i was blessed in many ways, was a SS, which plays an intregral part in the teams success.

i could have played any position on the field, yes thats what an athlete can do! at my age, even now i could still go out there and raise some eyebrows... what does this all mean? obviously nothing to you and several on here cause thats just the way it is. keep thinkin the way u do, cause that's all u no.
 
...no, I don't believe you did, not for a minute.

...and sadly, from what I remember, the stats you "assumed", showed you to be about a .240 hitter in the bush leagues.


...and oh, the score is still 8-3...even you should be able to grasp that.
 
I posted something a while ago saying something along the lines of guys like Headley and Prado are good pieces of the puzzle when everyone else is doing their job. The idea that you're going to throw them in the middle of the lineup and it would've been a huge difference this season is just foolish.
 
don't care what the average was brother, there is more then stats to one's career, there was the RESPECT i got from my peers, nothing can take away what i achieved, had scouts running after me at several invitational tryouts, was named 1 of the best amature SS's in the world after winning a world championship, coach said reason Y we won was we had the best up the middles defense in world , was selected several times in draft,

what is your claim to fame, self proclaimed "problem child" on a mesage board?
 
Come on Pasta we all know even from the Rangers board that you like to get people riled up. Nothing wrong with it as it gets some passion flowing but don't deny it.
 
there is more then stats to one's career
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...actually, no, there's not. That's what a career is.

...my claim to fame is irrelevant though I was an above average catcher with an average glove, above average arm and an above average bat.. We had 3 players drafted by the pros off of my team when I was a sophomore...one had a very notable mlb career. (there's that career and stats thing again)
...I dislocated my kneecap and that pretty much ended my "career"...and and guess what?...nobody gives a shit...and rightfully so.
 
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...actually, no, there's not. That's what a career is.

...my claim to fame is irrelevant though I was an above average catcher with an average glove, above average arm and an above average bat.. We had 3 players drafted by the pros off of my team when I was a sophomore...one had a very notable mlb career. (there's that career and stats thing again)
...I dislocated my kneecap and that pretty much ended my "career"...and and guess what?...nobody gives a shit...and rightfully so.
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above average catcher, with an above average arm got a good look back then... at what point did you dislocate your kneecap?
 
Messiah717 said:
Ok, so then we're good.
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like what da fook is his name on the rangers board, we will always "agree to disagree" along the lines... but we have ALWAYS been good mess, truth, no 1 can hurt me on here , i got hit wit harder breakin balls in the box then some of the stuff been thrown at me on here
 
Pastafazul said:
like what da fook is his name on the rangers board, we will always "agree to disagree" along the lines... but we have ALWAYS been good mess, truth, no 1 can hurt me on here , i got hit wit harder breakin balls in the box then some of the stuff been thrown at me on here
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About ready for another season over there.
 
...it's a crying shame that at least one of those helmets was used in vain.
 
Messiah717 said:
About ready for another season over there.
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ready!!! looked real good last nite, didn't see much action for mcilwrath, we need him....... tararsky knocked the snot out of a hawks player.. and duclaire could be be what skinner is to carolina ...
 
yankeesince59 said:
...it's a crying shame that at least one of those helmets was used in vain.
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took a shot 1 nite, went down with pitch like u r taught, dam ball followed me all way down, good 12 to 6..... don't remember the run down to first


had to love the 6 lites on a post in the minors, got a real good look at the ball
 
yankeesince59 said:
...please show where I have played word games...fact is, I have not.

...Prado and Headley?...seriously...how long have they been with the team?...that's your answer?...and you seriously think substituting a batter with a .733 OPS and another with a .702 OPS who played a handful of 2nd 1/2 games into the meat of the line up was going to make a difference in this team's season?

...and "ON OCCASIONS"?...wtf does that mean?...oh, I get it, you mean after the fact...gotcha.

...I also find it funny that you point to McCann, when you swore that "catching offense" was "not a problem".



...congrats, you've officially achieved cartoon status..
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You're so screwed up with this one- I don't know where to begin.

I specifically mentioned "on occasion" because I thought we all knew the regular lineup's production was steadily going downhill through the 2nd half.

Nobody ever mentioned shaking up the lineup from day 1 ....you dope.
Once again, we see '59 at his best -- playing word games.
You mentioned Prado and Headley....yes I mentioned them...but I also mentioned a couple of others who you conveniently forgot to mention such as Cervelli, Ichiro and "ANYBODY" else....you also failed to mention that I said MIX and MATCH those other players in the 3-4-5 spots in the order.

Look, you seem to have a problem with me being in favor of juggling the lineup as this team's offensive production went south - near the bottom of the league.
I thought I made it clear that I really didn't care which other players batted in the 3-4--5 spots during those lineup shake-ups.
Now what the heck don't you understand. You disagree? FINE.

Headley was acquired July 22. Do you know his 2nd half numbers as compared to Tex'?
Tex' 2nd half stats are deplorable.
Would YOU have left Tex in the 4th\5th spot for most of the 2nd half-Sept?

ANSWER THAT QUESTION.



I would've also used Cervelli (when he played) in the middle of lineup...
..ON OCCASION ---> unless you believe I wanted him to bat 3rd or 4th all season...you dope!

Girardi could've/should've also slotted Ichiro somewhere in the middle of the order ON OCCASION depending on opposing pitcher match-ups.
Take it or leave it....but these are some of the options I believe Girardi could've taken.....ON OCCASION. You dope!

And you have been proven wrong on the Yankee catcher's production...I have been proven correct. The Yankee catcher's offense has been better than most other teams in the league.

And In case you want to attack my stance on McCann- yes, I still think he could've easily been moved down in the order (6th-7th?)....I guess I shouldn't have taken it for granted that YOU would realize there would be times when there was a tough lefty starting for the opposition....but you need to have everything spelled out....you're kinda slow that way.


I voted NO in your poll -

The lineup/offense was the biggest weakness on this team.
Girardi didn't do a good job "managing" that lineup.
More specifically the 3-4-5 spots....in your own words -- a black hole


All clear? Simple enough for ya?
Of course not- because it doesn't jibe with your line of thinking. lmao Go dry off, you're all washed up with me.
 
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...lmao...what a mindless wall of random words...and as usual, very poorly constructed.

...the Yankees have had a on and of problem with offensive production all year from different positions and different spots in the line up...but your solution was to switch the line up around with unspecified players at unspecified times after the fact. Let's see, you want to have thrown names in a hat, mix them up, and then insert them into the 4-5-6 spots...brilliant. Yeah, that formula works for every manager in the the game. You also assume your saviour combo of 4-5-6 replacements would have been pitched to the same way and would have performed the same way and that the game/s would have unfolded the same way...sorry it doesn't work like that.

...your argument, as usual, is not compelling at all...but when it gets right down to it, the only thing that matters is that this poll tells a different story about the job that Joe did...and that story is that "the majority rules"...and the majority thinks you're wrong.
 
And In case you want to attack my stance on McCann- yes, I still think he could've easily been moved down in the order (6th-7th?)....I guess I shouldn't have taken it for granted that YOU would realize there would be times when there was a tough lefty starting for the opposition....but you need to have everything spelled out....you're kinda slow that way.
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...Wow, you're making this way too easy, ...you suggest that McCann should have been moved "down to 6th or 7th when there was a tough lefty starting for the opposition"


...let's look into this a little further...McCann's numbers vs LHed and RHed pitching this year;

...vs LHed pitching; .292 .324 .526 .850

...vs RHed pitching; .211 .274 .362 .636






...derp.
 
yankeesince59 said:



...Wow, you're making this way too easy, ...you suggest that McCann should have been moved "down to 6th or 7th when there was a tough lefty starting for the opposition"


...let's look into this a little further...McCann's numbers vs LHed and RHed pitching this year;

...vs LHed pitching; .292 .324 .526 .850

...vs RHed pitching; .211 .274 .362 .636






...derp.
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Nice work ,
..and if I WAS the manager of this team,
..my guess is I would have those stats on hand when I shake-up,
..MIX and MATCH (<--- remember THAT one?) the lineup.

You see, this doesn't change the point I was trying to make, in fact, it's just another factor to consider.
lmao, Thanks.
Girardi could've/should've shaken-up this poor producing lineup more often...yep, you can use the word occasionally if you want. This is my opinion.

One more time:

I voted NO in your poll -

The lineup/offense was the biggest weakness on this team.
Girardi didn't do a good job "managing" that lineup.


You disagree.
So I guess we should leave it at that...yes?
 
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blgridesagain said:
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Nice work ,
..and if I WAS the manager of this team,
..my guess is I would have those stats on hand when I shake-up,
..MIX and MATCH (<--- remember THAT one?) the lineup.

You see, this doesn't change the point I was trying to make, in fact, it's just another factor to consider.
lmao, Thanks.
Girardi could've/should've shaken-up this poor producing lineup more often...yep, you can use the word occasionally if you want. This is my opinion.

One more time:

I voted NO in your poll -

The lineup/offense was the biggest weakness on this team.
Girardi didn't do a good job "managing" that lineup.


You disagree.
So I guess we should leave it at that...yes?
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...nope. I think you've proven that "if you were the manager" you'd likely be in the corner of the dugout mumbling to yourself and rubbing your own feces into your hair.


...what you can't get through your thick skull is why a poll is created to begin with. And the majority says you are wrong. But I get your wishful thinking and logic, even though you are in the smaller minority but you still flap your arms and claim you still somehow won some sort of victory. Say it to yourself as often as you like, but the numbers say otherwise.

...your McCann faux pas was your own mistake. Even after the facts were presented to you, you attempt even more misdirection and spew something else that you cannot back up. "Mix and match"?...what manager does that?...and what manager is successful with it?

...you claim Girardi didn't do a good job of "managing" the line up...for the third time, Girardi didn't have a viable line up to work with to begin with...he was given a steady ration of SHIT all year.


...try all you want to spin it your way, but the fact is that you cannot polish a turd.
 
...what you can't get through your thick skull is why a poll is created to begin with. And the majority says you are wrong. But I get your wishful thinking and logic, even though you are in the smaller minority but you still flap your arms and claim you still somehow won some sort of victory. Say it to yourself as often as you like, but the numbers say otherwise.

...your McCann faux pas was your own mistake. Even after the facts were presented to you, you attempt even more misdirection and spew something else that you cannot back up. "Mix and match"?...what manager does that?...and what manager is successful with it?

...you claim Girardi didn't do a good job of "managing" the line up...for the third time, Girardi didn't have a viable line up to work with to begin with...he was given a steady ration of SHIT all year.

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I'll comment on your highlighted remarks but I must admit..I'm beginning to wonder, I thought you were smarter than this.

1) And the majority says you are wrong.

Well, wooptey dam doo...pat them on the back and don't forget to remind them that just because I disagreed with THEM-- it doesn't make them right.
Can you understand that?...you fool.

2)and claim you still somehow won some sort of victory.

I never claimed victory...in fact, I've said MORE THAN ONCE that it was MY OPINION....Can you understand that?...you fool.

3) "Mix and match"?...what manager does that?...and what manager is successful with it?

So now you are saying managers DO NOT play the percentages and some hitters do NOT do well vs certain pitchers? You fool!

4) he was given a steady ration of SHIT all year.

Do you actually believe hitters do not go on hot and cold streaks?
When they're hot -- they're not sh!t...when they're not hot---they are sh1t.


Get the hell outta here you DOPE.
 
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