Tech Global warming: greatest sham in science

[SlyPokerDog]

The drought is man made, though. The government is directing vast amounts of fresh water to the ocean instead of the aqueducts that have been used to irrigate the central valleys and Southern California.

It doesn't matter where water is or isn't being diverted if their isn't any rain or snow. The drought in California is because a lack of precipitation. How you guys use the water is up to you but you first have to actually have the water before your argument actually holds water. (See what I did there?)

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Spot On Denny! That and fear of building more reservoir like the farmers (and responsive governments) used to do.

Hey, I was up in NewPort OR last week with the boat. While there, I was listening to the Noaa weather forecast on the VHF radio. The warmest day in history for that day in NewPort was in 1914, 101 years ago. Come to think of it, I don't think there is a City on the Oregon coast that has it's warmest day in history in this century. Noaa keep track of this sort of thing to put out in Mariner weather info from all the cities they focus on, on the whole coastline.

1 day is not a trend.

A trend is this -


Portland is on pace Tuesday to set an all-time record for 90-degree days in a calendar year.

When the temperature hits 90 this afternoon -- OK, if, but forecasts call for a high of 97 to 100 -- it will mark the city's 25th 90-degree day of 2015, eclipsing the previous record of 24 set in 2009.

What's more, the record may stand for only one day. The National Weather Service is expecting another scorcher Wednesday, with temperatures reaching 94 to 98.

According the weather service, June had nine days of 90 degrees or higher, July had 12 and August had three. The annual average is 12.

http://www.oregonlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2015/08/portland_bracing_for_a_record-.html

 

[MarAzul]

all-time record for 90-degree days in a calendar year

When did they start keeping that record? Noaa doesn't keep that stat for any of the focus
Marine weather forecasts, that I know of.

 

[lawai'a]

You said


NOAA says, NOT!

Your link talks about the high pressure ridge affecting El Niño. Not global warming scam.

Typical of alarmist global warming claims.

The drought is man made, though. The government is directing vast amounts of fresh water to the ocean instead of the aqueducts that have been used to irrigate the central valleys and Southern California.

Not CO2. Bad policy.

but I said obviously nothing to do with global warming! but I am admitting to you that was my intent and they said it is not the case but you not I mentioned drought. stay on task.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

When did they start keeping that record?

What was the high temperature record for that date in Newport before 1914?

 

[MarAzul]

How you guys use the water is up to you

No, actually it is the EPA that tells them how to use the water these days. The reservoirs built years ago for agriculture are now used to support the snail darter and delta smelt and such.
Funny when you think of it, using reservoir water to support the wild live but you can't built anymore because of environmental impacts.

 

[MarAzul]

What was the high temperature record for that date in Newport before 1914?

I don't have a clue.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

No, actually it is the EPA that tells them how to use the water these days. The reservoirs built years ago for agriculture are now used to support the snail darter and delta smelt and such.
Funny when you think of it, using reservoir water to support the wild live but you can't built anymore because of environmental impacts.

Again, it doesn't matter who says what about where and how to use the water if there is no water to use.

It's like arguing over if a truck that gets 20mpg is better than a car that gets 40mpg when there is no gas to fuel either vehicle. The focus should be on how to get more fuel, not how to use the fuel that no one has.

 

[magnifier661]

It doesn't matter where water is or isn't being diverted if their isn't any rain or snow. The drought in California is because a lack of precipitation. How you guys use the water is up to you but you first have to actually have the water before your argument actually holds water. (See what I did there?)

I have done my part! Instead of taking 5 hour showers, I just take 4.5 hour showers

 

[magnifier661]

Again, it doesn't matter who says what about where and how to use the water if there is no water to use.

It's like arguing over if a truck that gets 20mpg is better than a car that gets 40mpg when there is no gas to fuel either vehicle. The focus should be on how to get more fuel, not how to use the fuel that no one has.

If we only had fish

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I have done my part! Instead of taking 5 hour showers, I just take 4.5 hour showers

I respect your sacrifices.

 

[MarAzul]

Again, it doesn't matter who says what about where and how to use the water if there is no water to use.

It's like arguing over if a truck that gets 20mpg better than a car that gets 40mpg when there is no gas to fuel either vehicle. The focus should be on how to get more fuel, not how to use the fuel that no one has.

err, It does matter. You build reservoirs to tide you over through the droughts. They don't do you any good when you loose control of them. Wonder what the Delta smelt did before the reservoirs? The smart one found a place to hang out and wait for rain I bet. Breed like hell in the good days I suppose. Much better for them now that they have reservoirs to shield them from
the droughts one or two years or so. I guess they owe the farmers that got the reservoirs built in the old days.

 

[magnifier661]

I respect your sacrifices.

Bernie Sanders has really gotten through. I may even join a union

 

[riverman]

I always thought human activity should be included in natural causes ...we're like Blue Jays..we move in and fuck a lot of things up chasing away the wildlife. I blame us

 

[Denny Crane]

It doesn't matter where water is or isn't being diverted if their isn't any rain or snow. The drought in California is because a lack of precipitation. How you guys use the water is up to you but you first have to actually have the water before your argument actually holds water. (See what I did there?)

Sure it does.

The water doesn't evaporate and fall as rain/snow if it's in the ocean instead of in the central valley.

 

[MarAzul]

I may even join a union

Oh shit! I feel like I lost a brother.

 

[magnifier661]

Oh shit! I feel like I lost a brother.

Green font! You know I don't require green fonts man!

 

[Hobbesarable]

Climate at a glance - NOAA link to graphing historical data from 1895 to 2015.

It'll allow you to check by:
Region - global, U.S., statewide
Parameter - temperature, precipitation
Time Scale

Check it out.

 

[Denny Crane]

Climate at a glance - NOAA link to graphing historical data from 1895 to 2015.

It'll allow you to check by:
Region - global, U.S., statewide
Parameter - temperature, precipitation
Time Scale

Check it out.

FYI

 

[magnifier661]

Nice post @Denny Crane

 

[Hobbesarable]

FYI

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Why did you change the vertical scale?

 

[Hobbesarable]

 

[MarAzul]

How about this one.

Sort of makes a chart of the last 100 years or so irrelevant.
But then, I do expect it will fall again.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

View attachment 5776

Duh! To prove that the earth's temperature hasn't gone up by 1600 degrees like the global warming experts claimed they would.

It's all right here - http://www.livescience.com/32879-what-happens-to-earth-when-sun-dies.html These silly scientists say eventually the earth will burn up. Hahahahahaha! This is why global warming is a sham. Denny has proved it!

 

[Denny Crane]

Why did you change the vertical scale?

Why did you?

Stupid math trick, either way.

Your graph is "scary" while mine is not.

Slick how that works.

Do tell why your scale is more relevant.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Why did you?

Stupid math trick, either way.

Your graph is "scary" while mine is not.

Slick how that works.

Do tell why your scale is more relevant.

That was the scale given after the plot. You changed yours intentionally. Just admit it.

 

[Denny Crane]

View attachment 5776

How does it look for the hottest month, say July?

SlyPokerDog loves cherry picked data.

 

[Denny Crane]

That was the scale given after the plot. You changed yours intentionally. Just admit it.

I admit I changed the scale. The default scale is chosen to make minuscule changes look scary.

You ask the wrong question.

 

[Hobbesarable]

I admit I changed the scale. The default scale is chosen to make minuscule changes look scary.

You ask the wrong question.

You don't need to answer further questions. I see your intention clearly.

 

[Denny Crane]

How about this one.

Sort of makes a chart of the last 100 years or so irrelevant.
But then, I do expect it will fall again.

The scale on this graph is 5 degrees. The NOAA one is 1 degree.

Get it? Math trick.

The NOAA data are a sliver in the rightmost bit of this graph.