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magnifier661 said:
I believe it's because man has ego. They want to believe that the harder they try, they can achieve achievements greater than others. With God, no matter how hard you try, you will never be best.

The second is "If there is a God, then there is accountability". With accountability, especially knowing that this creator can see even their deepest secretes, they are scared that they must answer for their actions and thoughts.
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Absolutely 110% agree, especially with the second part.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Why wasn't it? The existence of matter is not proof of the big bang, only proof that the matter had some source. Why can't that source be God?
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There's plenty of evidence to support where matter came from and it has nothing to do with any sort of god.
 
Denny Crane said:
There's plenty of evidence to support where matter came from and it has nothing to do with any sort of god.
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Then where did the matter come from? What created it? (or insert your own better term if "created" offends you)
 
MadeFromDust said:
Why? Seriously, why? Incoherent?
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to clarify, I wasn't saying God is an incoherent concept (when defined adequately). I just don't think it's possible, at least with our brains, to have any kind of clear defined picture of what it would mean for a "supernatural realm" to exist. It's kind of used as a vague semantic placeholder that could be replaced by "magic realm" and nothing would change.
 
magnifier661 said:
I believe it's because man has ego. They want to believe that the harder they try, they can achieve achievements greater than others. With God, no matter how hard you try, you will never be best.

The second is "If there is a God, then there is accountability". With accountability, especially knowing that this creator can see even their deepest secretes, they are scared that they must answer for their actions and thoughts.
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Questioning someone's sincerity just makes them think you are an asshole.
 
magnifier661 said:
The fossil records prove they existed.
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Sure, but you can't observe any live dinosaurs. You can conclude they once lived from the fossils.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
The chronology of the Big Bang is well understood and well supported by objective evidence. Believe it or be wrong.
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Big Bang and self replicating molecule from non genetic are far from each other. But knowing your debating skills, it's pretty obvious you didn't understand the question
 
barfo said:
Sure, but you can't observe any live dinosaurs. You can conclude they once lived from the fossils.

barfo
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Yep.. But the observation is "fossils found determine Dinos existed". When I watch the "behavior patterns" they aren't technically observable. Much of that information is an educated guess
 
magnifier661 said:
Yes sir... Some atheists should take note
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And you should stop implying that atheists choose not to believe in god because they are afraid of being accountable for their actions. That's a little insulting, not to mention it doesn't make any logical sense.
 
magnifier661 said:
Big Bang and self replicating molecule from non genetic are far from each other. But knowing your debating skills, it's pretty obvious you didn't understand the question
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I see a 3B year old rock. I wasn't around when it was formed. Nobody was. Yet we all know better that it is 3B years old and that it was formed by natural processes.

I see even barfo is mopping the floor with your arguments . Good luck with that.

You seem to accept the fossil record but deny the fossil record of the cosmos.
 
crowTrobot said:
And you should stop implying that atheists choose not to believe in god because they are afraid of being accountable for their actions. That's a little insulting, not to mention it doesn't make any logical sense.
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If I insulted you then I apologize.
 
We're wrong about half the things we study here on this planet, but we have the universe nailed down. How it started, where it came from, and where it's going. :rolleyes2:
 
magnifier661 said:
Yep.. But the observation is "fossils found determine Dinos existed". When I watch the "behavior patterns" they aren't technically observable. Much of that information is an educated guess
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yup science is based on probability judgment, not certainty.
 
Denny Crane said:
I see a 3B year old rock. I wasn't around when it was formed. Nobody was. Yet we all know better that it is 3B years old and that it was formed by natural processes.

I see even barfo is mopping the floor with your arguments . Good luck with that.

You seem to accept the fissile record but deny the fossil record of the cosmos.
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Hahaha all you keep doing are giving only non-genetic examples.

As for the fossil records, they explain they existed. That is an obvious observation. Your weak argument that we see self replication today is proof that genetic life can manifest from non genetic material, not so much.

I do enjoy when you hitch rides from other posters, especially ones you argue with on a daily basis, very rewarding...
 
You don't seem to know what genetic and non genetic materials are.

Smh
 
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