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BigGameDamian said:
Evedently you haven't been watching the NBA for very long.
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That dude doesn't know what he's talking about. The freedom of movement part from Jay Bilas is right. Other than that the video is full of opinion and hyperbole. He said the rules said it literally says they 'open up the lane to let them get to the basket more". That dude doesn't know what the hell he's saying. He might as well be uncle Rico.
 
dviss1 said:
That dude doesn't know what he's talking about. The freedom of movement part from Jay Bilas is right. Other than that the video is full of opinion and hyperbole. He said the rules said it literally says they 'open up the lane to let them get to the basket more". That dude doesn't know what the hell he's saying. He might as well be uncle Rico.
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I think Dviss' might throw BGD over that mountain over there.
 
dviss1 said:
That dude doesn't know what he's talking about. The freedom of movement part from Jay Bilas is right. Other than that the video is full of opinion and hyperbole. He said the rules said it literally says they 'open up the lane to let them get to the basket more". That dude doesn't know what the hell he's saying. He might as well be uncle Rico.
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The rules say something like take two steps with the ball and it's traveling. Yet Dr. J took 2 or more steps almost every time he touched the ball. I see guys take 2 or 3 steps all the time and it's rarely called. Moses Malone led the league in offensive rebounds and he literally pitched a tent in the lane; the refs never called him for 3 seconds.

When the Bulls played the Pistons in the playoffs, the Pistons committed what would today be flagrant 2 fouls, along with immediate ejection.



 
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Denny Crane said:
The rules say something like take two steps with the ball and it's traveling. Yet Dr. J took 2 or more steps almost every time he touched the ball. I see guys take 2 or 3 steps all the time and it's rarely called. Moses Malone led the league in offensive rebounds and he literally pitched a tent in the lane; the refs never called him for 3 seconds.

When the Bulls played the Pistons in the playoffs, the Pistons committed what would today be flagrant 2 fouls, along with immediate ejection.



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Refs screwed up. That stuff was never legal.

And I don't know what you're talking about but you'll never find any rule book that says 2 steps is travel. Find a rule book and look up traveling. I guarantee you that you will not be able to interpret that rule. And not because you don't have great reading comprehension because I'm sure you do. Reading the rules it's just really weird. Next time we have a get together I'll bring a rule book and show you it's freaking crazy. 2 steps is not travel. You get a total of 2 steps after you picked up the ball. There have been some changes to certain definitiond and points of emphasis in the NBA with regards to cleaning up contact. Concussions have come into play now so that's the reason for the increase in the awareness of flagrant fouls.
 
I'm rooting for them. If they beat the Spurs again I'll root for them even more. Of course, I'd root for a team of my cloned music production instructor to best the Spurs.

P.S. I REALLY hated my sophomore college music production teacher.
 
dviss1 said:
Refs screwed up. That stuff was never legal.

And I don't know what you're talking about but you'll never find any rule book that says 2 steps is travel. Find a rule book and look up traveling. I guarantee you that you will not be able to interpret that rule. And not because you don't have great reading comprehension because I'm sure you do. Reading the rules it's just really weird. Next time we have a get together I'll bring a rule book and show you it's freaking crazy. 2 steps is not travel. You get a total of 2 steps after you picked up the ball. There have been some changes to certain definitiond and points of emphasis in the NBA with regards to cleaning up contact. Concussions have come into play now so that's the reason for the increase in the awareness of flagrant fouls.
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Legal or illegal, the refs didn't call traveling on Dr. J when he'd take multiple steps, or use both feet as pivot feet after catching the ball.

The point is the refs let the players get away with a lot because ticky tack calls all game long ruins the experience for the fans. They also absolutely give superstars better treatment, too. It's good for business.
 
Denny Crane said:
Legal or illegal, the refs didn't call traveling on Dr. J when he'd take multiple steps, or use both feet as pivot feet after catching the ball.

The point is the refs let the players get away with a lot because ticky tack calls all game long ruins the experience for the fans. They also absolutely give superstars better treatment, too. It's good for business.
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If the refs call it, then the players will adjust. It's kind of like potty training your dog. If you don't set the expectation - there is no way they will inherently follow the rule.
 
tester551 said:
If the refs call it, then the players will adjust. It's kind of like potty training your dog. If you don't set the expectation - there is no way they will inherently follow the rule.
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The fans will boo, not go to the games, etc.

They want to see a Dr. J dazzle them, not get called for traveling and turn it over.

The NBA changes rules periodically and the refs start calling things tight early on and then they get lax about it.

Sorta like in baseball they have fantom tags and a lot of the time the umps will let you get away with being near the base (on a double play, etc.) rather than making you touch the base and get in a collision.
 
dviss1 said:
That dude doesn't know what he's talking about. The freedom of movement part from Jay Bilas is right. Other than that the video is full of opinion and hyperbole. He said the rules said it literally says they 'open up the lane to let them get to the basket more". That dude doesn't know what the hell he's saying. He might as well be uncle Rico.
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Sounds to me like you need to go watch some ESPN Hardwood Classic NBA games. The game was much more physical back in the 80s-90s era and much harder for the PG/SG to get into the paint and score the ball.
 
dviss1 said:
Refs screwed up. That stuff was never legal.

And I don't know what you're talking about but you'll never find any rule book that says 2 steps is travel. Find a rule book and look up traveling. I guarantee you that you will not be able to interpret that rule. And not because you don't have great reading comprehension because I'm sure you do. Reading the rules it's just really weird. Next time we have a get together I'll bring a rule book and show you it's freaking crazy. 2 steps is not travel. You get a total of 2 steps after you picked up the ball. There have been some changes to certain definitiond and points of emphasis in the NBA with regards to cleaning up contact. Concussions have come into play now so that's the reason for the increase in the awareness of flagrant fouls.
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In Denny's third video the game play announcers even say they place all the blame on the ref who didn't call a foul on Jordan for knocking Dumars out of bounds to get the rebound.
 
Denny Crane said:
The fans will boo, not go to the games, etc.

They want to see a Dr. J dazzle them, not get called for traveling and turn it over.

The NBA changes rules periodically and the refs start calling things tight early on and then they get lax about it.

Sorta like in baseball they have fantom tags and a lot of the time the umps will let you get away with being near the base (on a double play, etc.) rather than making you touch the base and get in a collision.
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Agree with Tester; just call the rules and player will adjust. If they want to allow 3 steps just change the rule.

I think NBA refs are real good for the most part; sometimes it hard to tell when a call is real close. It was much worse 20+ years ago.
 
We have to root for them to go for it, because they're playing Memphis twice. Plus, it'll be good to remember that we dealt them their most devastating loss of the season the year they broke the record.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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Hand-checking rules were changed in 1994. Sure they added flagrant 1 flagrant-2. Flagrant fouls were still flagrant fouls they simply decided to parse the two. Again, you can call them rule changes or you can call them points of emphasis. There's been a point of emphasis on rough play and hits to the Head so what is to be done about it? It was a point of emphasis on hand-checking and how it was displacing the offensive player. And checking was disrupting the players Rhythm, balance, speed, and quickness.
 
dviss1 said:
Hand-checking rules were changed in 1994. Sure they added flagrant 1 flagrant-2. Flagrant fouls were still flagrant fouls they simply decided to parse the two. Again, you can call them rule changes or you can call them points of emphasis. There's been a point of emphasis on rough play and hits to the Head so what is to be done about it? It was a point of emphasis on hand-checking and how it was displacing the offensive player. And checking was disrupting the players Rhythm, balance, speed, and quickness.
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I guess Hubie Brown doesn't know what he's talking about then.
 
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