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Isn't Tonya Harding a Blazer fan? Perhaps she can get a few of her friends to swing some pipes at the legs of the Warriors?
 
When it comes to expectations, I've already renewed my NBA League Pass. I don't care a whit about our record. I'm just excited to see how this group plays together. It will be fun!
 
I posted this elsewhere but it's worth repeating here to counter all the gloom and doom predictions for the Warriors this season... Vegas oddsmakers currently have them the 6th most likely to win the title in 23-24.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

of course they could suffer a rash of injuries and suck, they are an older team after all. If that doesn't happen they should make the playoffs and Portland will get a crummy pick in a draft that seems to lack star power.

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Cugel said:
My goal is now 35. Still need to see huge improvements in Shae and ideally Ayton. Of course, Scoot has to fulfil expectations.
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35 wins would be a solid number to aim for. That still puts us in the 5th-6th highest odds for the #1 again this year.
 
illmatic99 said:
ya... a bit generous for me. I say 28 wins.

I also know we'll be closely monitored by the league late in the year, but our FO is MVP at tanking.
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Yeah I was just looking through the entire schedule. Most of the teams that we play 3-4 times a year (WC teams) are looking to make the playoffs. Most of the teams that are in our level of talent are in the east. ATL, CHI, TOR, IND, ORL, CHA, DET, we only play these teams twice a year, and they all be settling around the 35 win mark just due to the fact that the talent difference between each team is marginal. I think 30 wins is likely, 35 wins is optimistic, anything close to 38-40 wins is an overachieving season. We would probably have around the 5th best odds with 30 wins, anywhere from the 6th to 9th best odds with 35ish wins.

But with possible trades to Ant and/or Grant, or us being over precautious with a small injury to Scoot or Shae, we could actually go full tank and try to out-tank the Rockets for what could be the 4th worst record, which ensures the best possible odds at the #1 pick.
 
‘24-‘25 Blazers Roster:

Scoot/Ant/Lebron
Ant/Sharpe/Rupert/Bronny
Sharpe/Lebron/Kris
Lebron/Sarr/Walker
DA/Williams/Sarr
 
STOMP said:
I posted this elsewhere but it's worth repeating here to counter all the gloom and doom predictions for the Warriors this season... Vegas oddsmakers currently have them the 6th most likely to win the title in 23-24.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

of course they could suffer a rash of injuries and suck, they are an older team after all. If that doesn't happen they should make the playoffs and Portland will get a crummy pick in a draft that seems to lack star power.

STOMP
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Our health (and everyone elses), will determine how the season plays out.
 
The only way GS tanks, is if they have a bunch of injuries early on and a top 4 pick is probable. They don't have a frp guaranteed. So, why tank unless it's an obvious bottom of the cellar year from the very beginning? Obviously, they are a playoff team with their current roster right now.
 
cheesehoff said:
The only way GS tanks, is if they have a bunch of injuries early on and a top 4 pick is probable. They don't have a frp guaranteed. So, why tank unless it's an obvious bottom of the cellar year from the very beginning? Obviously, they are a playoff team with their current roster right now.
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The only way I see us losing this pick is if they have injuries and get fucking really lucky with ping pong balls.
 
blazerkor said:
The only way I see us losing this pick is if they have injuries and get fucking really lucky with ping pong balls.
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If they some how get in lottery and get top 4 pick then the following year it’s only top 1 pick protected so we could potentially get an even better pick. They’re old and the slide down is coming sooner rather than later. They may have same decision with Curry as we had with Dame
 
1 Eye Jack said:
If they some how get in lottery and get top 4 pick then the following year it’s only top 1 pick protected so we could potentially get an even better pick. They’re old and the slide down is coming sooner rather than later. They may have same decision with Curry as we had with Dame
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Oh, I know that the pick is guaranteed to be a first rounder protects top 4 in the upcoming draft, protected top 1 in the next and if by some chance they land a top for in 2024 and the number one pick in 2025, we then get it unprotected in 2026. I'm cool with the protections.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
If they some how get in lottery and get top 4 pick then the following year it’s only top 1 pick protected so we could potentially get an even better pick. They’re old and the slide down is coming sooner rather than later. They may have same decision with Curry as we had with Dame
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I'd put the chances of Steph requesting a trade from the W's at near zero and he remains an absolute cash cow for that franchise. They did win their 4th championship with Curry just 16 months ago... I don't see much comparable between Dame's situation in PDX and Curry's in the Bay. They had a lot go sideways last season but I'm sure they believe in their chances if they're right. Hell, according to Vegas they've a better shot at winning it all this season then Portland ever did with Dame. Curry is under contract for 3 more seasons until he's 38.

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cheesehoff said:
The only way GS tanks, is if they have a bunch of injuries early on and a top 4 pick is probable. They don't have a frp guaranteed. So, why tank unless it's an obvious bottom of the cellar year from the very beginning? Obviously, they are a playoff team with their current roster right now.
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Or they tank but its not intentional? This is a franchise thats been trying to contend and ended up with a high lottery pick half the years since Durant left.

Remember the Melo Lakers team 2 years ago? They thought they would contend with all these Hall of fame veterans then missed the playoffs by a ton. A team of old guys in the NBA can be shockingly suddenly much worse than how many expect.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Or they tank but its not intentional? This is a franchise thats been trying to contend and ended up with a high lottery pick half the years since Durant left.

Remember the Melo Lakers team 2 years ago? They thought they would contend with all these Hall of fame veterans then missed the playoffs by a ton. A team of old guys in the NBA can be shockingly suddenly much worse than how many expect.
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Perhaps it's just me, but the term "tank" connotes intent. A team of old guys becoming shockingly, suddenly much worse than expected would be, in my mind, simply a failure.
 
STOMP said:
I'd put the chances of Steph requesting a trade from the W's at near zero and he remains an absolute cash cow for that franchise. They did win their 4th championship with Curry just 16 months ago... I don't see much comparable between Dame's situation in PDX and Curry's in the Bay. They had a lot go sideways last season but I'm sure they believe in their chances if they're right. Hell, according to Vegas they've a better shot at winning it all this season then Portland ever did with Dame. Curry is under contract for 3 more seasons until he's 38.

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Yeah I don't think Steph will ever leave and at this point seems like Klay/Draymond are more likely to retire there as well. A few months ago was probably Draymond's final chance where it might have made sense to leave. However I could certainly see that team start to really struggle and lose many games though. CP3 is cooked, Klay can't move or defend like he used to, Wiggins sat out most of last year. Maybe Kuminga or their young guys bust or don't develop to play winning ball yet. Even if Steph can shoot his defense may continue to decline and his off ball/drives could become much easier to guard as he losses his speed/quickness. They lost Poole for nothing as well as some other good backups on their title team two years ago.

Of course older guys get injured, and Steph/Klay/Wiggins have all missed multiple long stretches of multiple seasons recently

Not saying it will happen for sure but there is a chance it happens much sooner than we all expect.

Now I don't see how our young team could out execute the warriors in a 12 minute intense half court heavy game. But over an 82 game season I don't see how Steph/CP3/Klay can chase dozens of teams with young quick talents like Scoot/Sharpe/Simons all over the court for 48 minutes.

Will be fun to watch, but I love our chance of being pleasantly surprised with the Warriors pick this season.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Perhaps it's just me, but the term "tank" connotes intent. A team of old guys becoming shockingly, suddenly much worse than expected would be, in my mind, simply a failure.
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Yes you are correct - I should have said they "tank" but its not intentional. As in the performance could end up nearly the same as some teams that tank while yes I don't think the intent would be the same, thus the quotes.
 
I don't think there's much of a chance that this ends up in the top 10 even if things go a little bit south for the warriors this year, but I do think a pick and the teens is possible. And even in a questionable draft, that's not nothing.
 
STOMP said:
I'd put the chances of Steph requesting a trade from the W's at near zero and he remains an absolute cash cow for that franchise. They did win their 4th championship with Curry just 16 months ago... I don't see much comparable between Dame's situation in PDX and Curry's in the Bay. They had a lot go sideways last season but I'm sure they believe in their chances if they're right. Hell, according to Vegas they've a better shot at winning it all this season then Portland ever did with Dame. Curry is under contract for 3 more seasons until he's 38.

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That team is old and it’s showing with all there injuries. Do they have one last run in them sure but just as likely to have injuries that put them in lottery. They will have to blow it up at some point and Curry (like Dame) isn’t going to want to stick around for rebuild. Almost every star player has switched teams at the end of their career MJ, Barkley, Drexler, Shaq and several others.
 
Steph is 36 in March. This pick is kind of a gamble on his health. If he can stay healthy it's at best low 20s. If he gets injured, particularly in first 2 months, it's likely a lotto pick.

Nobody should hope for injury. But it is what it is.
 
GSW looked sharp against the Lakers in the first pre-season game. Kuminga seems a lot more assertive and the young rook they got (Podziemski) could be something as well.
 
andalusian said:
GSW looked sharp against the Lakers in the first pre-season game. Kuminga seems a lot more assertive and the young rook they got (Podziemski) could be something as well.
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Podziemski could be a steal. One guy had him in his top 10.
There could be a few steals in the 2023 draft.
 
Golden State looking very good right now. Injury probability still high with that roster though.
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
Golden State looking very good right now. Injury probability still high with that roster though.
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They haven’t really played anyone. They beat Sac twice and then Houston and New Orleans. They lost to Phoenix. I think Sac is coming back to earth a little bit. They’re not playing as well.
 
the Dubs look tough right now. Looney & Green controlling the glass. CP3 and Kuminga playing solid ball. Then of course Steph is doing Curry stuff.
 
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