Politics Good people vs bad people

[MARIS61]

Nice shooting! Sorry you had to deal with such scum but glad you're alive.

Arizona resident shoots four burglars, killing one, police say

By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News
Arizona resident shoots four burglars, killing one, police say
One person is dead and three others are injured after they were shot by a resident of an Arizona home they were trying to burglarize, police said.

The Yuma County Sheriff’s Office responded to a 911 call at approximately 1:38 a.m. Thursday and discovered that four individuals were shot after breaking into a home.

According to a news release, Edith Guerrero, 36, Jaden James, 18, Leonardo Gonzalez, 27, and Jessica Aynes, 28, woke the sleeping occupants as they entered.

The unidentified occupant with the gun fired several rounds, hitting all four suspects and ultimately killing one.

Aynes was taken to a nearby hospital where she was pronounced dead. Guerrero and James also were rushed to the hospital with gunshot wounds.

The extent of Gonzalez's injuries was unclear, although police did confirm he was struck.

The case is being investigated by the Yuma County Sheriff’s Office.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-resident-shoots-four-burglars-killing-one-police-say

 

[stampedehero]

In Arizona, you don't know what sort of animal could break into your house. Who knows, the defender could have mistaken the sounds for a puma or even a large lizard..

 

[Orion Bailey]

In Arizona, you don't know what sort of animal could break into your house. Who knows, the defender could have mistaken the sounds for a puma or even a large lizard..

Even if he knee they were human, he is within his rights. Four on one could feel like a life or death situation. Them or me. I better shoot first.

 

[MARIS61]

Woman with concealed carry license shoots, kills would-be robber at Chicago bus stop, police say

By Katherine Lam | Fox News

A 25-year-old woman with a concealed carry license shot and killed the man trying to rob her at gunpoint near a Chicago bus station Tuesday morning, police said -- noting she needed just a single shot to take down the would-be robber.

The unidentified woman was at the bus stop in Chicago’s Fernwood neighborhood just after 6 a.m. when the man, identified as 19-year-old Laavion Goings, pulled a gun and attempted to rob her, WLS reported. Surveillance video from a nearby convenience store showed the woman waiting at the stop and Goings approaching her and aiming his gun, officials said.

CHICAGO SEES 2 SHOT DEAD, 9 WOUNDED AS VIOLENT JANUARY WEEKEND DRAWS TO CLOSE

The woman, however, was prepared. She pulled out her own weapon and shot Goings in the neck before fleeing the area to seek help.

Police found Goings about a block away. He was taken to a hospital where he later died.

"It's tragic that he did die, but the lady had to do what she had to do," Bianca Daniel, who lives near the shooting scene, told WLS. "She's on a bus stop, probably going to work, you know, and she has to encounter that early in the morning. I'm kind of proud that, like, that's what she did because she stuck up for herself."

Another neighbor said: "I'm glad that she had concealed carry and good aim, because there is so much going on in these streets.”

The woman, who suffered minor injuries during the incident, is not expected to face charges.

 

[dviss1]

Should a death sentence be required for stealing property?

 

[tlongII]

Should a death sentence be required for stealing property?

If you point a gun at someone and attempt to rob them then death is on the table.

 

[dviss1]

If you point a gun at someone and attempt to rob them then death is on the table.

I disagree.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I disagree.

You in the "just follow along and he'll leave me alone" camp?

I don't have much choice because I don't carry a gun. Other things about me seem to be deterrent enough but I'm getting older.

Anyway, anyone stupid enough to point a gun at someone deserves what they get.

 

[dviss1]

You in the "just follow along and he'll leave me alone" camp?

I don't have much choice because I don't carry a gun. Other things about me seem to be deterrent enough but I'm getting older.

Anyway, anyone stupid enough to point a gun at someone deserves what they get.

I don't own a firearm nor do I need one.

I leave my car and house unlocked and I live in the city.

If someone took some of my belongings, I have insurance. They can have them. I'll call the police. I would hate to end someone's life over a material possession I can reacquire...

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't own a firearm nor do I need one.

I leave my car and house unlocked and I live in the city.

If someone took some my belongings, I have insurance. They can have them. I'll call the police. I would hate to end someone's life over a material possession I can reacquire...

If nobody that pointed a gun at someone to rob them had ever killed them after they followed the robber's instructions then I would agree with you.

Unfortunately YOU don't know if any specific robber isn't looking to kill you afterwards for whatever reason.

Just crazy? Doesn't want to leave a witness?

Or like the poor guy in the liquor store here a few years ago. He had a gun to his head and NO way of opening the safe.

Got shot in the head because of it. Guy got pissed he wouldn't do what he told him to.

 

[MARIS61]

Should a death sentence be required for stealing property?

Should a death sentence be required for waiting for a bus?

He threatened to kill her, was a split second from doing so.

The outcome most likely saved dozens if not hundreds from the grief of his future life of crime.

 

[MARIS61]

I don't own a firearm nor do I need one.

I leave my car and house unlocked and I live in the city.

If someone took some my belongings, I have insurance. They can have them. I'll call the police. I would hate to end someone's life over a material possession I can reacquire...

You're being silly now.

NOBODY leaves their doors unlocked in Portland.

Never mind your possessions, you have a son.

I sure hope you've got a better plan B than you're letting on because violent crime isn't exactly decreasing in Portland.

 

[dviss1]

If nobody that pointed a gun at someone to rob them had ever killed them after they followed the robber's instructions then I would agree with you.

Unfortunately YOU don't know if any specific robber isn't looking to kill you afterwards for whatever reason.

Just crazy? Doesn't want to leave a witness?

Or like the poor guy in the liquor store here a few years ago. He had a gun to his head and NO way of opening the safe.

Got shot in the head because of it. Guy got pissed he wouldn't do what he told him to.

I don't live my life in fear of what could happen. Plain and simple.

 

[dviss1]

You're being silly now.

NOBODY leaves their doors unlocked in Portland.

Never mind your possessions, you have a son.

I sure hope you've got a better plan B than you're letting on because violent crime isn't exactly decreasing in Portland.

You don't live here so how the fuck would you know? I rarely lock my door.

And stop bringing up my son. I've done a great job of protecting him for 12 years without a firearm.

You love your life in fear. I don't.

 

[dviss1]

Should a death sentence be required for waiting for a bus?

He threatened to kill her, was a split second from doing so.

The outcome most likely saved dozens if not hundreds from the grief of his future life of crime.

Silly... Trick question, there shouldn't be a death sentence for either.

 

[ehizzy3]

Bad people: grab women by the cofveve

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't live my life in fear of what could happen. Plain and simple.

I guess people who wear seatbelts are stupid.

Or who don't smoke or pick up hookers.

Maybe Trump is more like you than you think. I sure as hell wouldn't sleep with a porn star without a condom.....but why be afraid of what COULD happen?

 

[ehizzy3]

I guess people who wear seatbelts are stupid.

Or who don't smoke or pick up hookers.

Maybe Trump is more like you than you think. I sure as hell wouldn't sleep with a porn star without a condom.....but why be afraid of what COULD happen?

not living in fear is not same as living dangerously.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

not living in fear is not same as living dangerously.

Leaving your doors unlocked is living dangerously.

Posting that on a forum where most people know your name and what you look like is really dangerous.

 

[dviss1]

I guess people who wear seatbelts are stupid.

Or who don't smoke or pick up hookers.

Maybe Trump is more like you than you think. I sure as hell wouldn't sleep with a porn star without a condom.....but why be afraid of what COULD happen?

No, they're following the law. Are guns required?

Condoms were originally to prevent pregnancy not protect from STDs.

Flawed analogy.

 

[dviss1]

Leaving your doors unlocked is living dangerously.

Posting that on a forum where most people know your name and what you look like is really dangerous.

It prevents people from breaking my window. Think about it.

How is a gun gonna prevent that?

Think positively.

I don't keep shit in my car.

I'm not worried about any of you.

Again, I move through life positively and without fear. It works for me.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Nice shooting! Sorry you had to deal with such scum but glad you're alive.

Arizona resident shoots four burglars, killing one, police say

By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News
Arizona resident shoots four burglars, killing one, police say
One person is dead and three others are injured after they were shot by a resident of an Arizona home they were trying to burglarize, police said.

The Yuma County Sheriff’s Office responded to a 911 call at approximately 1:38 a.m. Thursday and discovered that four individuals were shot after breaking into a home.

According to a news release, Edith Guerrero, 36, Jaden James, 18, Leonardo Gonzalez, 27, and Jessica Aynes, 28, woke the sleeping occupants as they entered.

The unidentified occupant with the gun fired several rounds, hitting all four suspects and ultimately killing one.

Aynes was taken to a nearby hospital where she was pronounced dead. Guerrero and James also were rushed to the hospital with gunshot wounds.

The extent of Gonzalez's injuries was unclear, although police did confirm he was struck.

The case is being investigated by the Yuma County Sheriff’s Office.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-resident-shoots-four-burglars-killing-one-police-say

lol, the other 3 robbers will be charged with murder.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Woman with concealed carry license shoots, kills would-be robber at Chicago bus stop, police say

By Katherine Lam | Fox News

A 25-year-old woman with a concealed carry license shot and killed the man trying to rob her at gunpoint near a Chicago bus station Tuesday morning, police said -- noting she needed just a single shot to take down the would-be robber.

The unidentified woman was at the bus stop in Chicago’s Fernwood neighborhood just after 6 a.m. when the man, identified as 19-year-old Laavion Goings, pulled a gun and attempted to rob her, WLS reported. Surveillance video from a nearby convenience store showed the woman waiting at the stop and Goings approaching her and aiming his gun, officials said.

CHICAGO SEES 2 SHOT DEAD, 9 WOUNDED AS VIOLENT JANUARY WEEKEND DRAWS TO CLOSE

The woman, however, was prepared. She pulled out her own weapon and shot Goings in the neck before fleeing the area to seek help.

Police found Goings about a block away. He was taken to a hospital where he later died.

"It's tragic that he did die, but the lady had to do what she had to do," Bianca Daniel, who lives near the shooting scene, told WLS. "She's on a bus stop, probably going to work, you know, and she has to encounter that early in the morning. I'm kind of proud that, like, that's what she did because she stuck up for herself."

Another neighbor said: "I'm glad that she had concealed carry and good aim, because there is so much going on in these streets.”

The woman, who suffered minor injuries during the incident, is not expected to face charges.

POOR WOMAN, I HOPE SHE IS OK

 

[MARIS61]

I don't live my life in fear of what could happen. Plain and simple.

Do you wear a seatbelt, avoid oncoming traffic, swat a wasp landing on your shoulder, bundle up on a cold day, wash your hands after excreting?

Plain and simple common sense.

Not fear, just not suicidal.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

It prevents people from breaking my window. Think about it.

How is a gun gonna prevent that?

Think positively.

I don't keep shit in my car.

I'm not worried about any of you.

Again, I move through life positively and without fear. It works for me.

It prevents you from knowing if anyone broke into your house while you were gone. I don't care about a broken window. I care about getting tipped off if someone is in or had been in my house.

They're more likely to break in through your back window anyway. Out of sight.

That's why I have an alarm. Not to keep people out but so I know when they were in.

I live in a gated community. Never wanted to and knew when I first was buying a house that it isn't much of a safety feature.

It is a good way to keep random solicitors out and that's enough for me. Bonus if you have kids is that only the assholes that live there speed through your neighborhood.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No, they're following the law. Are guns required?

Condoms were originally to prevent pregnancy not protect from STDs.

Flawed analogy.

If they repeal seatbelt laws I'll still wear it because I'm not a moron.

 

[MARIS61]

It prevents people from breaking my window. Think about it.

You already pointed out you have insurance for the window and break-in. Plus, locks slow down/deter car thieves. Any prevention keeps insurance rates lower for everyone.

How is a gun gonna prevent that?

Guns prevented at least 2 criminals in this thread from ever committing any more crimes.

I don't keep shit in my car.

Sad that you are cowed by fear from simple acts of daily life.

Again, I move through life positively and without fear. It works for me.

More like afraid to live freely if it requires confrontation with criminals. Better to just hand over everything without complaint.

 

[dviss1]

No need to impugn my lifestyle for not owning a firearm.

Again, I have no need for one.

 

[Lanny]

You're being silly now.

NOBODY leaves their doors unlocked in Portland.

Never mind your possessions, you have a son.

I sure hope you've got a better plan B than you're letting on because violent crime isn't exactly decreasing in Portland.

When I was a kid we didn't own a key to our front door until I went into the Army. We never took the keys out of our car's ignition until I must have been somewhere around 14. My dad left the keys in his pickup truck on the job until he died in 1968. Other workmen on the job needed to get in and out meaning vehicles in the way needed to be moved. Most guys or all that I encountered, left their keys in the ingnition so someone needing to get in there could just drive your vehicle out of the way and you wouldn't have to drop what you were doing to move your vehicle out of the way.
Today? I lock up everything. I don't leave anything in sight when I leave my car. I place everything in the trunk before I leave for my destination. I wouldn't leave an empty sack in sight 'cause someone might break my window just to find out if anything valuable was in my sack.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If guns are such a great answer then why does Maris have a bunker?