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If he could become Theo Ratliff 2.0 or perhaps Dalembert lite than he has to be strongly considered
 
He has a longer standing reach than Adams. I wonder why in DraftExpress he did not record any
leaping stats. Was he hurt? or did his agent tell him not to?

The knock on him is his weight and strength. is he 230 or 245? I have read both.

I don't know....... he looks pretty good to me. I would rather have him over any other center in this draft other than Len. As long as he gets big enough so he is not pushed around. I like his high post passing skills
 
Blazinaway said:
http://www.csnnw.com/blazers/why-gorgui-dieng-right-pick-10-portland
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It's like the guy's been reading my mind! He's the player I'd pick if I just had the #10. If I could be sure of getting, say, Dallas's pick as well, then I'd go Schroeder at 10, Dieng next.

Pinwheel1 said:
He has a longer standing reach than Adams. I wonder why in DraftExpress he did not record any
leaping stats. Was he hurt?
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He was hurt at the combine - I saw some comment about him being in a boot.

It's happened again: I've fallen in love with a prospect we almost certainly won't draft.

Mind you: I really wanted Kendall Marshall last year, and it's probably just as well we didn't get him. And I was ecstatic about Will Barton, and the jury's out.
 
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HailBlazers said:
If he could become Theo Ratliff 2.0 or perhaps Dalembert lite than he has to be strongly considered
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I could see both drafting Dieng and signing Dalembert, then trying to trade Leonard.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I could see both drafting Dieng and signing Dalembert, then trying to trade Leonard.
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with Leonard's offense and hopefully at least decent all around development keeping both Meyers and Gorgui could give us a nice combo at C
 
I like Dieng over Pope. Even at 10.
 
It's funny that Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh are common comparisons for Dieng, and 3RA1N1AC had this to say last year:

3RA1N1AC said:
07-05-2012, 12:19 PM

a certain percentage of centers flop, regardless of skin tone, as evidenced by larry sanders, ekpe udoh and 10 more black centers failing every year
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Udoh didn't get much PT this year, but it was precisely because he was behind Sanders, whom nobody is going to call a flop any time soon.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
It's funny that Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh are common comparisons for Dieng, and 3RA1N1AC had this to say last year:


Udoh didn't get much PT this year, but it was precisely because he was behind Sanders, whom nobody is going to call a flop any time soon.
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pretty much everyone thought sanders looked like a flop as of 7-05-12 after putting up 3/3 as a 23 year old in his second season

maybe theres hope for kendall marshall after all!
 
Why is #10 too high for a player that you think can be a solid NBA player, and a difference-maker?

I don't understand that thinking. This is the player to draft, but getting him at #10 is too high. :crazy:
 
LOL. GMs miss on picks every year, and still have jobs. I think fans, working with significantly fewer resources, can miss on a few and still have opinions.
 
PapaG said:
Why is #10 too high for a player that you think can be a solid NBA player, and a difference-maker?

I don't understand that thinking. This is the player to draft, but getting him at #10 is too high. :crazy:
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You are right it doesn't make sense. Taking Dieng at #10 seems to be a safe choice. Unless he is injury prone you have to figure he will be in the NBA for the next 10 years. Yes his up side seems low. Yes swinging for the fences and stealing a super star at 10 would be a lot more fun, But Dieng seems like a decent pick.

It is just really odd that the mocks have him so low. Most 20-24 range. Hoopsworld is the exception (11) but they are all over the place with their picks. They have us taking Giannis Adetokunbo.

I would not be upset with Dieng. Still would prefer McCollum or Shabazz though.
 
i think the thought is that if you can trade down and still get him then you are leaving value on the table, and that isnt that great

bu if he is #10 on your draft board, and nobody wants to trade up, just take the dude
 
PapaG said:
What amazes me is how posters who clearly miss on picks continue every year to strongly advocate players the next year.
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nobody is perfect, but its like anything else, people that suck at darts and bowling still play darts or go bowling occasionally, without shame

its something to do :cheers:
 
BBert said:
LOL. GMs miss on picks every year, and still have jobs. I think fans, working with significantly fewer resources, can miss on a few and still have opinions.
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Yes, and those GMs can get fired. The message board fans who make thread after thread? No so much...


But, I do enjoy it all, and without new threads, this board would die.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
nobody is perfect, but its like anything else, people that suck at darts and bowling still play darts or go bowling occasionally, without shame

its something to do :cheers:
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Well put!
 
What I'm saying is that if Dieng is a Larry Sanders-type defender, why isn't he a consensus lock to be Top 10?

I happen to like his game, and he should have a role in the NBA for a while and not be a bust. Finding the next franchise player at #10 based on 'BPA' seems like a formula for failure.
 
PapaG said:
What I'm saying is that if Dieng is a Larry Sanders-type defender, why isn't he a consensus lock to be Top 10?

I happen to like his game, and he should have a role in the NBA for a while and not be a bust. Finding the next franchise player at #10 based on 'BPA' seems like a formula for failure.
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Isn't the knock on him his age and the fact people think he is near his "ceiling" at the moment? I wouldn't mind taking him but I think he will be available later on in the draft so we could easily trade back a few spots and gain another asset and grab him. I think he should be taken in the top 10 but the draft has taken a turn in the last 10 years from "Draft guys you can use and mold in your system" to "draft the guy with the highest potential so you can maybe just maybe grab the next superstar".
 
Przybilla took years to learn defense, even if you subtract the injured time. Dieng is strong and smart, so maybe he could help about the time he's leaving.
 
Rhal said:
Isn't the knock on him his age and the fact people think he is near his "ceiling" at the moment? I wouldn't mind taking him but I think he will be available later on in the draft so we could easily trade back a few spots and gain another asset and grab him. I think he should be taken in the top 10 but the draft has taken a turn in the last 10 years from "Draft guys you can use and mold in your system" to "draft the guy with the highest potential so you can maybe just maybe grab the next superstar".
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It "appears" that he will go later in the draft, perhaps 15-20 basis most mocks and let me stress in this draft especially, these are best guesses. So if POR wants Dieng and can trade the 10 and gain another asset that would be the ideal situation, of course there is the risk someone could take him earlier, for example if we traded the 10 to Utah for 14 and 21 maybe OKC would take him. My guess is he is available at 14.
 
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To bring up Ekpe Udoh again [FONT=&quot]because I think his situation was analogous to Dieng’s (older, offensively limited, college team overachieved)[/FONT]: does anyone remember where he was slated to go in most mocks? My recollection is that the Warriors took him MUCH higher (#6). Now, a lot of people think that that was a real reach,

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and could probably point to his anemic career numbers to back that up. But I also know that a lot of Warriors fans really liked him, and he was a real +/- star for them.

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Plus the Bucks pretty much insisted he be included in the Bogut trade, so he had value. So why did he go at #6? My guess is (a) Mock drafts don't really reflect actual GM thinking, and/or (b) the Warriors tried to trade down but couldn't/couldn't be sure that if they did he'd be available.
 
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Jeezus that was funny. Thanks.
 
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