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Great trick but as of 12am tomorrow he will play this year for our team but what he does for us is completely up for interpretation, due to the fact that he hasn't played in the first two and a half months of our season.

Just like your prediction, I'll make one that's ominous and hard to refute. GP2 will make a significant impact on this roster's in game play in 2023.
 
Freshtown said:
quote from Chauncey pregame:

ON GARY PAYTON II’S STATUS:

“Yeah I mean my conversations with Gary are obviously between him and I. He's working his behind off to get back, he's close, very close. Medically, we’ve and he’s done everything that he can do. I always tell people a lot of times likenobody really understands like when you have an injury, you have surgery, there’s not just a physical component that you have to get over, there’s a mental component as well. You don’t want to get hurt again, you don’t want to reinjure yourself, and I think that that’s kind of where it is with G is like, he's just trying to get over that. He's played hurt for so long in his career that he wants to be healthy so he can be himself out there. That’s kind of where it's at.”
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On a night where we could have really used him a no go, very disappointing
 
handiman said:
At some point, it's fair to question whether the team should be docking his pay. If he's been medically cleared to play for 4 weeks now, the net effect isn't all that different from Ben Simmons in Philly.
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yes. on a side note, can you imagine his dad doing this?
 
Freshtown said:
yes. on a side note, can you imagine his dad doing this?
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I don't know because like Chauncey said only the dude that's coming back from injury can really know where he's at. We don't know what it feels like. I do remember his dad taking his time to get back from an injury when he was in Miami... didn't come back until he knew he could give 100%.

People need to stop acting like they know what's going on in this situation. Just seven months ago this dude came back a month after breaking his elbow and people are questioning his toughness. Fucking ridiculous.
 
blazerkor said:
People need to stop acting like they know what's going on in this situation. Just seven months ago this dude came back a month after breaking his elbow and people are questioning his toughness. Fucking ridiculous.
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In your typical rush to jerk the ol' knee, you fail to connect the dots. Last year's demonstration of quick recovery and toughness is exactly why some of us question what is going on with him this year. It's precisely because it does seem out of character that people can't help but feel there's more to the story.
 
handiman said:
I actually thought about that just yesterday. Payton played the bulk of a season on a broken foot, as I recall.
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And his dad could very well be telling his son to take his time and get 100% healthy. Don't do what I did and fight through it and pay for it later in life. He's got a three year contract there's no need to push yourself trying to prove how tough you are right now.
 
Driew said:
And his dad could very well be telling his son to take his time and get 100% healthy. Don't do what I did and fight through it and pay for it later in life.
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Possibly, but pretty unlikely. That was in his Seattle days, and I'm not aware of any lingering effect as a player. And a non-displaced broken bone in the foot isn't something that's going to present problems later in life, like, say, knees, hips, ankles, or back.
 
Interesting that he is playing just after there started to be a lot of questions about what was really going on. Articles, pod casts, tweets, etc.
 
TBpup said:
Interesting that he is playing just after there started to be a lot of questions about what was really going on. Articles, pod casts, tweets, etc.
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"Just started"? There have been consistent questions for over a month.
 
TBpup said:
It has been going on for a bit, but it has really ramped up in the last few days in terms of larger media questioning.
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I don't think that's why he's playing in fact I think the relationship in causality is the reverse. I think GP2 has been close to being ready to play. I think that he and the team had been open about how close he was a little too long for the media's liking, so they started to squawk about it. I don't think their squawking sped up GP2's timeline or slowed it down but was a result of it being openly talked about.
 
TBpup said:
Interesting that he is playing just after there started to be a lot of questions about what was really going on. Articles, pod casts, tweets, etc.
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Mountains were made out of a mole hill. Exasperation at the continued delay of his debut, coupled with a lack of communication from the team, fueled catastrophizing. In reality it took him no more time than it took Dame to come back from the same surgery.
 
Chris Craig said:
Mountains were made out of a mole hill. Exasperation at the continued delay of his debut, coupled with a lack of communication from the team, fueled catastrophizing. In reality it took him no more time than it took Dame to come back from the same surgery.
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How do we know when Dame was actually ready to turn last year?

I think if it were March and we were in the middle of tanking, people would be less concerned by Payton's return date being pushed back.
 
Tince said:
How do we know when Dame was actually ready to turn last year?

I think if it were March and we were in the middle of tanking, people would be less concerned by Payton's return date being pushed back.
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We know Dame got the surgery in January and was ready to go by training camp. GPII had the surgery in July and is ready to go now. He wasn't out longer than Dame was recovering from the same surgery. Just saying any worry about Gary's return was a bit premature. The lack of communication by the Blazers of course didn't help. I think they got ahead of themselves too.
 
Chris Craig said:
We know Dame got the surgery in January and was ready to go by training camp. GPII had the surgery in July and is ready to go now. He wasn't out longer than Dame was recovering from the same surgery. Just saying any worry about Gary's return was a bit premature. The lack of communication by the Blazers of course didn't help. I think they got ahead of themselves too.
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Weren't there reports that Dame could've came back in late March, but didn't for obvious reasons? My overall point is that he was going to be held out the entire season regardless of if he was ready March 1st or May 1st.
 
I don’t like the way he’s limping around out there. Hopefully it’s not a lingering thing
 
Tince said:
Weren't there reports that Dame could've came back in late March, but didn't for obvious reasons? My overall point is that he was going to be held out the entire season regardless of if he was ready March 1st or May 1st.
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I think those reports were very very VERY generous with their prognostications.
 
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