Grade Olshey Thus Far As Blazers GM

[ABM]

Overall, throughout his entire tenure as Blazers' GM, what grade do you give Neil Olshey

 

[BonesJones]

Why arent votes public

 

[ABM]

Why arent votes public

I guess I missed that. I'd have no problem with that.

 

[oldfisherman]

NO hogtied himself with the 2016 offseason FA signings. But, he became an escape artist by improvising very well to work around the problem. Not sure any other GM could have done better with a payroll in the tax.

I do not believe NO has a long term strategy. But, he does leave options. He has found ways to take advantage of opportunities that develop that he did not create or control.

I doubt he ever hogties himself again. His recent contracts have been more reasonable.

I believe NO will have the Blazers in the playoffs for years to come. And give the team a chance to win a ring, when an opportunity out of his control develops.

Grade B

 

[Blazinaway]

NO hogtied himself with the 2016 offseason FA signings. But, he became an escape artist by improvising very well to work around the problem. Not sure any other GM could have done better with a payroll in the tax.

I do not believe NO has a long term strategy. But, he does leave options. He has found ways to take advantage of opportunities that develop that he did not create or control.

I doubt he ever hogties himself again. His recent contracts have been more reasonable.

I believe NO will have the Blazers in the playoffs for years to come. And give the team a chance to win a ring, when an opportunity out of his control develops.

Grade B

I voted B before reading your comments and now I don't have to write much because I fully agree with your comments and grade

 

[BonesJones]

Lillard was drafted in 2012. Since then, Olshey has failed to put another all-star next to him. He's made many mistakes, notably in 2016 but the Afflalo trade was another black mark. He's made good under-the-radar moves to counter that, but still hasn't made Portland anymore than a darkhorse even though they have arguably the best player in franchise history. He has a good long-term vision and has learned from some mistakes, but until that plays itself out for the better, I can't give him credit.

Grade: C

 

[BigGameDamian]

Lillard was drafted in 2012. Since then, Olshey has failed to put another all-star next to him. He's made many mistakes, notably in 2016 but the Afflalo trade was another black mark. He's made good under-the-radar moves to counter that, but still hasn't made Portland anymore than a darkhorse even though they have arguably the best player in franchise history. He has a good long-term vision and has learned from some mistakes, but until that plays itself out for the better, I can't give him credit.

Grade: C

KLove is an all star. We'll see if we can get him at trade deadline.

 

[riverman]

B+

 

[twobullz]

KLove is an all star. We'll see if we can get him at trade deadline.

I will move my vote to a F if he trades for K Love.

 

[BonesJones]

KLove is an all star. We'll see if we can get him at trade deadline.

Not anymore...

 

[calvin natt]

B+

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Lillard was drafted in 2012. Since then, Olshey has failed to put another all-star next to him. He's made many mistakes, notably in 2016 but the Afflalo trade was another black mark. He's made good under-the-radar moves to counter that, but still hasn't made Portland anymore than a darkhorse even though they have arguably the best player in franchise history. He has a good long-term vision and has learned from some mistakes, but until that plays itself out for the better, I can't give him credit.

Grade: C

Counter points.
NO Went through a major rebuild, maintained being competitive, whether “luck” or not, got Nurkic and a pick for Plums.
Dame is the best Blazer or one of the, and has still struggled to get into the ASG, it has always been traditionally really hard for Portland to get two guys into the ASG, even if by record / numbers they have two guys who could get in.

The Blazers are one of the more stable teams in the NBA.

I mean I pretty much agree, and I wouldnt go higher than a B, BUT the last few years the Blazers have found themselves in a league that GS basically dominated, and honestly he’s made huge gaffes, but at least the teams always competitive. Its not just Dame either, he’s the star but they always seem to find guys who can contribute to a winning team.

 

[CupWizier]

Lillard was drafted in 2012. Since then, Olshey has failed to put another all-star next to him. He's made many mistakes, notably in 2016 but the Afflalo trade was another black mark. He's made good under-the-radar moves to counter that, but still hasn't made Portland anymore than a darkhorse even though they have arguably the best player in franchise history. He has a good long-term vision and has learned from some mistakes, but until that plays itself out for the better, I can't give him credit.

Grade: C

and yet he kept a team in the playoffs after losing 4/5's of his starting lineup and then put together a team that made it to the WCF and all you give him is a c? You just salivate any time you can denounce accomplishments of Olshey.

 

[HailBlazers]

Only A vote thus far. A for smAll market success. It's tough to come by.

 

[BonesJones]

and yet he kept a team in the playoffs after losing 4/5's of his starting lineup and then put together a team that made it to the WCF and all you give him is a c? You just salivate any time you can denounce accomplishments of Olshey.

If you want to discuss Olshey, I'm down. If you want to make this some personal thing, no thanks.

 

[Propagandist]

and yet he kept a team in the playoffs after losing 4/5's of his starting lineup and then put together a team that made it to the WCF and all you give him is a c? You just salivate any time you can denounce accomplishments of Olshey.

If you want to discuss Olshey, I'm down. If you want to make this some personal thing, no thanks.

Cup, he's right. Let's take the target off of BJ's (lol) back for a little while. You might not agree with him, but his opinions are thought out and he backs them up with examples and numbers and all that good stuff. What more could you ask from a poster?

 

[CupWizier]

Cup, he's right. Let's take the target off of BJ's (lol) back for a little while. You might not agree with him, but his opinions are thought out and he backs them up with examples and numbers and all that good stuff. What more could you ask from a poster?

You ask and I will answer. I deserve the right to my opinion and the right to disagree with someone's opinion. That seems pretty fair.

 

[Propagandist]

You ask and I will answer. I deserve the right to my opinion and the right to disagree with someone's opinion. That seems pretty fair.

That isn't an answer to the question I posed, but that's okay. And you should know I'm not saying you shouldn't have or express an opinion. I'm saying that you can say wtf kind of take is that and it'll land with greater profundity and garner more respect if you don't include things like: "You just salivate any time you can denounce accomplishments of Olshey." (Which isn't really an opinion the way it's stated, btw.) Those words are baiting. It's the place where constructive turns to destructive. AND it's a good example of something you would (most likely) not say in person. Do what you do, I'm just trying to tell you what it looks like from here.

 

[Strenuus]

Lillard was drafted in 2012. Since then, Olshey has failed to put another all-star next to him. He's made many mistakes, notably in 2016 but the Afflalo trade was another black mark. He's made good under-the-radar moves to counter that, but still hasn't made Portland anymore than a darkhorse even though they have arguably the best player in franchise history. He has a good long-term vision and has learned from some mistakes, but until that plays itself out for the better, I can't give him credit.

Grade: C

For the last time - the afflalo trade was made to have him on the bench. It was before wes went down.

Its not a black mark. It's called shitty luck. Lay it to rest. There is no argument.

 

[Strenuus]

He gets a b.

2016 keeps him from an A.

 

[BonesJones]

For the last time - the afflalo trade was made to have him on the bench. It was before wes went down.

Its not a black mark. It's called shitty luck. Lay it to rest. There is no argument.

CJ was ready IMO.

 

[Strenuus]

CJ was ready.

Good for him.

Then blame stotts, not olshey. Stotts is the one who plays them... Olshey just deals them.

 

[hoopsjock]

CJ was ready IMO.

CJ got injured again and they weren't sure if he could be counted on that season.

 

[BonesJones]

Good for him.

Then blame stotts, not olshey. Stotts is the one who plays them... Olshey just deals them.

Stotts was playing him.

Im not even hard on that move. I've defended it to people that are too harsh. In hindsight, its a mistake.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Only A vote thus far. A for smAll market success. It's tough to come by.

I voted A as well. Same reason. He'd have an A+ if he traded Aldridge rather than letting him walk.

 

[Strenuus]

Stotts was playing him.

Im not even hard on that move. I've defended it to people that are too harsh. In hindsight, its a mistake.

Hindsight doesnt make the trade. It was the best move.

It was shitty luck. There is no argument. Hindsight isnt an argument for saying its a mistake when it comes to trades.

Now, lets talk about something that can be argued, since this cant.

 

[kjironman1]

Lillard was drafted in 2012. Since then, Olshey has failed to put another all-star next to him. He's made many mistakes, notably in 2016 but the Afflalo trade was another black mark. He's made good under-the-radar moves to counter that, but still hasn't made Portland anymore than a darkhorse even though they have arguably the best player in franchise history. He has a good long-term vision and has learned from some mistakes, but until that plays itself out for the better, I can't give him credit.

Grade: C

Not sure what you were expecting on the Afflalo move? Actually it was a blessing that he had someone to replace Wes at all? Dude was supposed to bring 10-12 mins off the bench. I guess you are blaming Olshey for a Achilles injury? That year with a healthy Wes and that roster the Blazers might very well have gone deep.

Olshey gets a B from me. Only thing keeping him from an A is a finals appearance and that may very well happen.

 

[kjironman1]

CJ got injured again and they weren't sure if he could be counted on that season.

Yep Broken finger and he also was still recovering from the foot injury.
https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/2014/11/trail_blazers_backup_guard_cj_mccollum_fractures_f.html

Picking up Afflalo was a good move. CJ had not been playing consistently. His shot was not falling. He had been injured twice and he was pretty much nonexistent on defense.

Did it turn out good? No but Olshey does not deserve blame for the situation. Matter of fact "Hindsight" makes the move even better IMO.

 

[ABM]

Considering that, evidently, no top free agents want to sign in Portland, I'm giving him an A-

 

[BonesJones]

Not sure what you were expecting on the Afflalo move? Actually it was a blessing that he had someone to replace Wes at all? Dude was supposed to bring 10-12 mins off the bench. I guess you are blaming Olshey for a Achilles injury? That year with a healthy Wes and that roster the Blazers might very well have gone deep.

Olshey gets a B from me. Only thing keeping him from an A is a finals appearance and that may very well happen.

You think its good value to trade a first and a good young prospect for a guy who you say was only supposed to play 10 to 12 minutes?

That trade didnt even affect my grade.