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Tince said:
I don't worry about these unprovable hypothetical situations like you. But if I said 100% chance someone said it, then you'd ask me to prove it, which I can't. Just like you can't prove none of them did. So why even think about?

I doubt any GM is sitting around saying any other team nailed this draft. I don't think GM's sit around focusing on how good of a job other GMs are doing and talking about it out-loud. That would be kinda weird, wouldn't it? And if they did, so what?
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Eh…. I could see them saying things like that. Presti just won the title. I could see him saying another guy nailed the draft. Some of them are petty but I imagine some of them share their thoughts too.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Eh…. I could see them saying things like that. Presti just won the title. I could see him saying another guy nailed the draft. Some of them are petty but I imagine some of them share their thoughts too.
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I can't rule it out as a possibility. Since we'll never know what these GM's say to themeslves, out-loud, about other GMs, it kinda feels like a somewhat meaningless exercise when attempting to prove if a transaction was good or not. Of course, if you have a verified audio recording of what Onsi Saleh is saying about Portland in his kitchen tonight, while eating milk and cookies, please share it; I would find it entertaining if not interesting.

Personally, I'd hope there would be public metrics, video clips, etc. that might be better used to determine if we think pick #16 if going to be better than pick #17.
 
Tince said:
I can't rule it out as a possibility. Since we'll never know what these GM's say to themeslves, out-loud, about other GMs, it kinda feels like a somewhat meaningless exercise when attempting to prove if a transaction was good or not. Of course, if you have a verified audio recording of what Onsi Saleh is saying about Portland in his kitchen tonight, while eating milk and cookies, please share it; I would find it entertaining if not interesting.

Personally, I'd hope there would be public metrics, video clips, etc. that might be better used to determine if we think pick #16 if going to be better than pick #17.
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It’s more likely that they say to themselves out loud that so and so is a fucking moron.
 
Gave them a B, extracting extra assets to get their guy is an A, there were other good players around, so opportunity loss docked them a bit. Of course, if they were right in their bpa assessment, they deserve the A.
 
F is the only grade that makes sense. The kid could turn out to be the next JokShaqHakeem Abdul ChamberRussell, but we could have got him much later
 
Unless they think they can improve this guy's athleticism and lateral speed, this sems like a very bad choice, especially considering who was available at 11.
 
I love how fans fall in love with a player, but realistically don't know much about him, and get pissed when the team didn't take said player (who also dropped), and act like they know everything about everyone.

Not saying the guy is going to be great, or even good. I don't know. None of us know anything about him.

He could be a steal, could be a bust. But so could kaspar, Carter and Coward.

Maybe lets see how he looks in summer league first (I'm assuming he's going to play). Granted it's a guard driven showcase.

Not that there aren't reasons to be cautious or pessimistic. He's not fast, and it's not like he had top notch competition. But it's not like Joker is exactly fast or athletic.

And no, I'm not saying he's going to be the next Joker, it's a comparison of speed and athleticism.

That said, incomplete/see me would be my grade. With not a lot of distance between this and a failing grade.
 
B+
The Draft picks cannot be overlooked and if we had him circled, I’ll wait and see how it pans out prior to buying into a bunch
 
MAYBE.....this works out, and we all hope it does. But there were some nice players that were passed up at #11 and a couple even at #16. Fair or not, Yang is going to be compared to them and their production just like every pick is to those that are drafted after them.
 
Looks like they did their homework and drafted who they thought was best where they could.

They also got some additional draft picks.

I gave them an A. That's what I'm looking for.
 
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No matter if you like or do not like the pick Cronin just showed his hand on what this offseason will be about and while I am not a fan of it at least it's a plan. I think Cronin is going to shift Vet's like a Grant or Thybulle or Williams for other players WHO might fit a tad better or have a skill set this team needs .. shooting etc. I do not think any player drafted was going to play many minutes cause there were not that many minutes open only Banton's minutes and maybe Walker's too . Now do not get me wrong I am not against the player just where he was picked as he prolly should have been more like a 21 to 30 pick at best not in the teens.

Billups likes vets point blank so any rookie would have just gotten yanked around by the nose by getting inconsistent minutes and seeing a Carter or Kas or whoever lose minutes to Grant and Thybulle or someone would have been even more annoying then what I am now at this gamble of a pick.
 
I can’t wait till Handsome posterizes LeBron then gives him the two handed head bow while he’s on the ground.

D+ or C-
 
Well, obviously, I wanted Coward, so I was disappointed. However, they did manage to secure a good haul for moving back just 5 spots.
I wanted others based on what I saw on film, but those were all highlights. So who knows for sure.

If the goal is to keep Ayton past this year, then it was a bad pick. But most of you want Ayton gone, so you all should not be as disappointed as I was.

As for where the mocks had him? Who the fuck cares. They don't know shit. They are not traveling internationally to watch these guys.
Some of the mocks I saw barely changed in the last few months, and they still all got it wrong. I am convinced that those "mock gurus" don't know more than we, which, to be honest, is not that much.

Yang will look bad at times this year, but who knows, in 2 years he could be a great complement to Donovan. We need at least two good centers. Yang looks like he has the potential to be a good stretch center. He has excellent passing skills as well so he should be good in high pick-and-roll situations. Plus, he looks to have good footwork down low as well. He is not a slow lumbering big. I would put money that he is faster than either Clingan or Edy.

I give them an incomplete at this point. (certainly not an A or B)
 
I appreciate they boldly went after their guy & realize that they've a lot more info then I do to consider. Without question they were going with who they thought was the BPA and not basing their selection on roster needs as another huge 5 seems the lowest need. While no one covering the draft had Yang rated so highly, they may well have had good reason to think other teams did. I gave it a B but would have gone with Incomplete if that was an option. We shall see...

STOMP
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I would put money that he is faster than either Clingan or Edy.
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I read your summation after posting mine... I could have just hit a like as we're on the same page. Responding to this part though, Yang was faster then Clingan and Edey in all the running drills at their respective combines. I'd also note that his highlights show a much better jump shot as well, he shoots it with confidence. And at the risk of sounding blasphemous, some of his quick read passes to cutters reminded me of the great Sabas

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
I appreciate they boldly went after their guy & realize that they've a lot more info then I do to consider. Without question they were going with who they thought was the BPA and not basing their selection on roster needs as another huge 5 seems the lowest need. While no one covering the draft had Yang rated so highly, they may well have had good reason to think other teams did. I gave it a B but would have gone with Incomplete if that was an option. We shall see...
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I think that long term they might feel they already have their future back-court (Scoot, Shae) and long-term wings (Deni, Tou) - but might not have absolute certainty about their long term big rotation other than DC.

Or, as you said, they just went BPA - either way, I like that they hd an idea of what they wanted to do and went and executed it. Much better than being indecisive.
 
Tince said:
He was mocked top 5, earlier in the year. Pretty big slide after the post-season, combine, and workouts.

If any team thought he was a top 10 talent, they almost certainly got him for good value, so it makes me think all the front offices saw something they didn't like.
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Whereas Noa Essengue went off the board directly after our pick. And I'm not happy about it.
 
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I guess incomplete is a sensible grade for any draft so we just go on what we know. And from what I have read, this guy cannot guard anyone except at the rim. And he can't get back to the rim fast enough when guards blow by him. I don't understand why we are going back to a style of defense that doesn't work anymore. I hope that somehow this works out.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
And from what I have read, this guy cannot guard anyone except at the rim. And he can't get back to the rim fast enough when guards blow by him.
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How about actually watching some game film and make your own determination?

From what I watched, he gets beat on closeouts a lot. But he does reasonably good at containing dribble drives off a P&R or DHO.

All things considered, I think he's a slightly better than average defender.
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's irrelevant. We traded back, got a FRP and we would have taken a guy who some people had mocked top 10. Easy A.
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But people would be asking if they think Scoot is a bust. Why take a PG when we already have 2? He's gonna take minutes from Scoot and Sharpe.
With our young core 5, any position that was picked would have been scrutinised because we already have X there. If you're gonna pick a position to add depth, (I'm not counting DA, Reath or RW3) getting a backup for DC makes perfect sense.
Yang is not slow or plodding. He isn't strong enough yet. The culture change will be difficult. But, DC proved to not be able to play long stretches (especially staying out of foul trouble), big guys seem to be more injury prone, Yang duplicates some of the things they want from a center with rebounding, rim protection, sheer size, but he also is more of a threat offensively than DC.
Bottom line, if we're picking for depth and upside, Yang definitely does that at a position that historically needs depth. Better than relying on Reath and Walker, too. Trade DA for a rack of basketballs, too.
Damned if you do...
 
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