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Denny Crane said:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/31/fbi-comey-clinton-email-242213?lo=ap_e1

GOP senators: Comey drafted statement clearing Clinton before her interview
Grassley, Graham say evidence suggests decision not to file charges was 'prejudged'.

Former FBI Director James Comey began drafting a statement rejecting the idea of criminal charges against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over her private email account about two months or more before Clinton was interviewed in the FBI probe, according to partial transcripts of interviews released Thursday by two Republican senators.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham said they obtained the transcripts from the Office of Special Counsel, a government watchdog agency that launched an investigation into whether Comey's actions violated a federal law against government employees engaging in political activity while on duty.

In a letter sent Wednesday to Comey's successor, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Grassley and Graham said Comey's move to start preparing the statement sometime in April or early May reflected a premature conclusion that Clinton shouldn't be charged.

"Conclusion first, fact-gathering second—that’s no way to run an investigation. The FBI should be held to a higher standard than that, especially in a matter of such great public interest and controversy," Grassley and Graham wrote as they demanded all FBI records of the drafts Comey prepared as well as other materials related to the OSC probe.
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Seriously? Scrutiny?

I've never used the term "libtard" but if the shoe fits...
 
Denny Crane said:
I've never used the term "libtard" but if the shoe fits...
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You've used plenty of other insults over your many years as a poster, so you shouldn't hold back, man. I understand your need and it doesn't tarnish your legacy as a sensitive soul.
 
Minstrel said:
You've used plenty of other insults over your many years as a poster, so you shouldn't hold back, man. I understand your need and it doesn't tarnish your legacy as a sensitive soul.
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You're acting the "tard" part. If the shoe fits...
 
Denny Crane said:
You're acting the "tard" part. If the shoe fits...
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That would hurt coming from someone I took seriously--on the other hand, I don't think I've ever taken seriously anyone who uses the term "tard." You might get more traction on 4chan, though!
 
Minstrel said:
That would hurt coming from someone I took seriously--on the other hand, I don't think I've ever taken seriously anyone who uses the term "tard." You might get more traction on 4chan, though!
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I have shown you to be both inconsistent in your arguments and unable to use basic logic. When called on it, you back pedal and act like your argument worked.

Let's agree to agree on that.

Or you can have the last word. You're wasting my time with a bunch of nonsense and the bad logic.
 
Denny Crane said:
Or you can have the last word.
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Sounds good. I'll use my last word to once again reiterate how much I enjoy your presence here and how much it livens up my day. I honestly think that if you left, I'd enjoy this forum a lot less and probably not be around as much.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/31/fbi-comey-clinton-email-242213?lo=ap_e1

GOP senators: Comey drafted statement clearing Clinton before her interview
Grassley, Graham say evidence suggests decision not to file charges was 'prejudged'.

Former FBI Director James Comey began drafting a statement rejecting the idea of criminal charges against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over her private email account about two months or more before Clinton was interviewed in the FBI probe, according to partial transcripts of interviews released Thursday by two Republican senators.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham said they obtained the transcripts from the Office of Special Counsel, a government watchdog agency that launched an investigation into whether Comey's actions violated a federal law against government employees engaging in political activity while on duty.

In a letter sent Wednesday to Comey's successor, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Grassley and Graham said Comey's move to start preparing the statement sometime in April or early May reflected a premature conclusion that Clinton shouldn't be charged.

"Conclusion first, fact-gathering second—that’s no way to run an investigation. The FBI should be held to a higher standard than that, especially in a matter of such great public interest and controversy," Grassley and Graham wrote as they demanded all FBI records of the drafts Comey prepared as well as other materials related to the OSC probe.
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In the end, the other draft memo revealed this week is going to be far more important. The draft 'Comey, you're fired' memo that Trump and Stephen Miller wrote, and Mueller now has.

barfo
 
And, of course, there's this:

Felix Sater said:
“I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected. We both know no one else knows how to pull this off without stupidity or greed getting in the way. I know how to play it and we will get this done. Buddy our boy can become President of the USA and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this.”
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Sounds innocent enough, right? Certainly no hint of collusion.

barfo
 
Boy those Russians sure like to brag. I wonder if they even met Putin.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/trump-comey-firing-letter.html

His conduct during the hearing added to concerns held by Mr. Sessions and Mr. Rosenstein that the F.B.I. director had botched the Clinton investigation and had overstepped the boundaries of his job.

Two days after Mr. Comey’s testimony, Mr. Rosenstein had a meeting with a White House lawyer at the Justice Department, where Mr. Rosenstein expressed concern about how the F.B.I. director had handled the Clinton investigation. The White House lawyer relayed the details of the conversation to his bosses at the White House.

Mr. Comey was fired on May 9.
 
Denny Crane said:
He fired Comey within days of Comey's own testimony which showed Comey to operate outside the law. Not just that he admitted to leaking government documents that he had no right to, but deciding on the right of the Atty General to exercise her duties.
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Seems NYTimes agrees with me when they report the facts.

"His conduct during the hearing added to concerns held by Mr. Sessions and Mr. Rosenstein that the F.B.I. director had botched the Clinton investigation and had overstepped the boundaries of his job.

Two days after Mr. Comey’s testimony, Mr. Rosenstein had a meeting with a White House lawyer at the Justice Department, where Mr. Rosenstein expressed concern about how the F.B.I. director had handled the Clinton investigation. The White House lawyer relayed the details of the conversation to his bosses at the White House."
 
Another timeline:

Trump talks to everyone about Comey-Clinton

Anyone who mentions Clinton ends up in a Rasta tweet.
 
Denial......Trump stated publicly he'd never done business or pursued deals with Russian interests....now that's already been disproven....he did try to build Trump Tower Moscow...fact....Trump lied about this....fact....that's suspicious....fact...his campaign staff pursued Russian ammo for the campaign...what's so hard to understand about this?
 
riverman said:
Denial......Trump stated publicly he'd never done business or pursued deals with Russian interests....now that's already been disproven....he did try to build Trump Tower Moscow...fact....Trump lied about this....fact....that's suspicious....fact...his campaign staff pursued Russian ammo for the campaign...what's so hard to understand about this?
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Trying to and actually doing are very different.

Seems too hard to understand that.
 
If "trying to and failing" is completely harmless, I wonder why Trump lied about it.

Also, it seems completely rational to say, "Sure, Trump lied about whether he did any business in Russia, but that's completely harmless and I'm sure that's the full extent of his lying. No one would lie more than one or twice (or thrice). Now, about Hillary Clinton.."
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Trying and failing to do a business deal is business.
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Having a business there is business.

I can see the logic now.

Russia: "Sorry Donald, but we're not going to let you build here."
Trump: "It's OK, I have interests all over the world."
Russia: "But in exchange for this great favor you're doing for us, we'll slant the election your way."

:crazy:

EDIT: My bad. Minstrel, as if on cue, gave us this bad logic in his post above.

If Trump DID get his hotel built there due to some favor, there might be even a hint of something of interest.
 
Denny Crane said:
Having a business there is business.

I can see the logic now.

Russia: "Sorry Donald, but we're not going to let you build here."
Trump: "It's OK, I have interests all over the world."
Russia: "But in exchange for this great favor you're doing for us, we'll slant the election your way."

:crazy:

EDIT: My bad. Minstrel, as if on cue, gave us this bad logic in his post above.

If Trump DID get his hotel built there due to some favor, there might be even a hint of something of interest.
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We'll see how it all shakes out. Now the investigative unit of the IRS is looking into Trump.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
We'll see how it all shakes out. Now the investigative unit of the IRS is looking into Trump.
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All this investigation and nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

It looks like they're leaving no stone unturned in their fishing expedition.

If they found something, they'd already release it. After all, the nation and its leadership is at stake.
 
Denny Crane said:
All this investigation and nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

It looks like they're leaving no stone unturned in their fishing expedition.

If they found something, they'd already release it. After all, the nation and its leadership is at stake.
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I would have to agree. People don't understand this whole Russia thing has been created, people really buy it. It's no different than the Obama birth certificate thing. It's all bullshit. I mean come on we are 8 months into when the Russia shit started and nothing conclusive has come out. It's just crazy people still run with it. It's just easier for people to believe Trump won because some Russians hacked the machines for whatever reason. People just wont accept it
 
Denny Crane said:
All this investigation and nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.
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This is where you pretend to know shit that you have no access to.........you absolutely do not know what they have or are looking at...if there were nothing at all....then there'd be no investigation...it'd have been capped off quickly...what we do know and apparently doesn't bother you is that Trump lied about Russia....said he might have unknowingly sold a few condos to Russians....he sells lots of condos...that's just not true....he knows it...why don't you? If it were just business as usual...he'd have admitted it in detail and it would have gone away....problem here is he doesn't tell the truth....and according to you, that's fine if Trump does it but not if the NYT does it.
 
Denny Crane said:
EDIT: My bad. Minstrel, as if on cue, gave us this bad logic in his post above.
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My post was about the significance of his lying and being a fairly prolific liar. Your post didn't have anything to do with that. Your bad logic is your own, don't involve me in it.
 
Minstrel said:
My post was about the significance of his lying and being a fairly prolific liar. Your post didn't have anything to do with that. Your bad logic is your own, don't involve me in it.
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Your post attributed a lie to him that isn't a lie.

That makes the logic problem yours.

Own it or be pwned.
 
riverman said:
Too late for that now...it's damage control time
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You'd think if there were actual damage and a constitutional crisis at hand, getting rid of him ASAP would be their top priority.

Instead, their top priority is finding something, anything, among a bunch of bullshit claims, to be true.
 
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