Greg Oden's Farewell Message

[Boob-No-More]

at least the Blazers can use his roster spot for someone who can play now.

No they didn't. They gave his roster spot to Hasheem Thabeet.

BNM

 

[noknobs]

He was released ... the team said we don't want you anymore. According to your post he's supposed to beg and plead to come back to a place where's experienced nothing but professional disappointment and a lot of physical misery for pretty much the entirety of his five year stay here? And that sounded reasonable to you before you typed it out?

I recall hearing that while Oden wanted to return to basketball, he had no intention of coming back to Portland, BEFORE the team released him.

 

[MickZagger]

I stopped giving a rats ass about Oden after his second serious injury. He ceased to exist to me.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I recall hearing that while Oden wanted to return to basketball, he had no intention of coming back to Portland, BEFORE the team released him.

Good for Greg; smart fella.

 

[noknobs]

Good for Greg; smart fella.

Yeah, I mean why stick with a team that's stuck by you through 5 fucking years of this bullshit... If he thinks the state of Oregon is his problem, and thinks Indiana is going to magically put humpty-dumpty together again, he's even dumber than he looks.

 

[magnifier661]

Yeah, I mean why stick with a team that's stuck by you through 5 fucking years of this bullshit... If he thinks the state of Oregon is his problem, and thinks Indiana is going to magically put humpty-dumpty together again, he's even dumber than he looks.

Lmao Oden is a loser, plan and simple. He will never amount to shit. Let him be a clumsy dentist.

 

[The Professional Fan]

I think it was pretty obvious that Greg had no love for Portland. How can I prove it? If you follow the team closely, you saw it. That's how. Getting released from Portland made him giddy, I'm sure. Let's not forget about the countless hours and money our team put in to his eternal rehab. I honestly don't feel much sympathy for Greg. I feel way more sympathy for our fan base. Oden has no heart. And Oden hated Portland. Close the book.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Jesus.

 

[HailBlazers]

I stopped giving a rats ass about Oden after his second serious injury. He ceased to exist to me.

Impossible. Don't Lie.

I think it was pretty obvious to me that Greg had no love for Portland. How can I prove it? If you follow the team closely, you saw it. That's how. Getting released from Portland made him giddy, I'm sure. Let's not forget about the countless hours and money our team put in to his eternal rehab. I honestly don't feel much sympathy for Greg. I feel way more sympathy for our fan base. Oden has no heart. And Oden hated Portland. Close the book.

FTFY.

Being a Fan does not equate to "Following the Team Closely." Unless you knew Greg personally or somebody else who did, you don't no $hit about the reality of the situation. Saying he has no heart after rehabbing from 3 MF surgeries is plain ignorant.

Has anyone else noticed that the Blazer front-office have been very quiet on this? The day Oden was waived there wasn't even a blurb on Blazers.com. Thabeet had more coverage on the front page than Oden did. Kinda weird.

Very Weird, it's like they're guilty of something. The very first MF surgery for Greg was always very fishy to me. Then went in like, oh were just going to a little scope, and all of a sudden our #1 draft pick wakes up with MF! WTF is that, the kid was only 18 and they go straight down the gauntlet. Fucked up if you ask me.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I recall hearing that while Oden wanted to return to basketball, he had no intention of coming back to Portland, BEFORE the team released him.

Link please. I don't recall hearing anything of the sort. Not saying it didn't happen, but if it did, you should be able to back it up with some proof.

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

Link please. I don't recall hearing anything of the sort. Not saying it didn't happen, but if it did, you should be able to back it up with some proof.

BNM

Actually it was reported jaynes. There was no comments that said otherwise. That why I suspected they would waive him.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think it was pretty obvious that Greg had no love for Portland.

Link please.

How can I prove it?

By posting a link to a quote from Greg saying he had no love for Portland.

If you follow the team closely, you saw it.

Link please.

That's how.

Link please. Oh wait... I get it. You're just saying we should take your word for it, because you are Greg's therapist and know EXACTLY what he thinks and feels.

Getting released from Portland made him giddy

Link please.

I'm sure.

Damn! Got me again. Nothing you've posted is an actual fact, just your biased personal opinions with nothing to back them up except for your gut feel and your own anger.

I honestly don't feel much sympathy for Greg.

Really? Thanks for clearing that up.

I feel way more sympathy for our fan base.

Because our management drafted yet another guy with huge expectations and bad knees.

Oden has no heart.

Link please...

And Oden hated Portland.

Link please...

Close the book.

Good advice. We should all look at it objectively, like you, right?

BNM

 

[HailBlazers]

Actually it was reported jaynes. There was no comments that said otherwise.

F-That then. Typical Portland media, There was no comment otherwise, so it Must be True!

 

[magnifier661]

F-That then. Typical Portland media, There was no comment otherwise, so it Must be True!

It wasn't the normal "spin" type reporting by jaynes. It was like "Oden said that he wants a fresh start and start his own rehabilitation". Also, he did put his house for sale and went back to indiana. If that's not a telling sign that he doesn't want to play in Portland, then I guess we can agree to disagree.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Actually it was reported jaynes. There was no comments that said otherwise. That why I suspected they would waive him.

Link please.

And reported by Jaynes how? Was it a quote from Oden? Did Jaynes even speak to Oden on the subject, or was it just Dwight's opinion that that's what Greg wanted? Jaynes isn't a beat writer that follows the team and interacts with he players. He's an overinflated gas bag with no inside sources and an unjustifiably high opinion of himself. Everything he "reports" is just his own pontificating. He gets paid to spout controversial opinions and stir the pot, not interview the players. In court, everything Dwight "reports" would be considered hearsay, at best. Most of it isn't even that. It's out and out fabrication.

Of course, if you have a link to Dwight quoting Oden on the subject, by all means post it.

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

Link please.

And reported by Jaynes how? Was it a quote from Oden? Did Jaynes even speak to Oden on the subject, or was it just Dwight's opinion that that's what Greg wanted? Jaynes isn't a beat writer that follows the team and interacts with he players. He's an overinflated gas bag with no inside sources and an unjustifiably high opinion of himself. Everything he "reports" is just his own pontificating. He gets paid to spout controversial opinions and stir the pot, not interview the players. In court, everything Dwight "reports" would be considered hearsay, at best. Most of it isn't even that. It's out and out fabrication.

Of course, if you have a link to Dwight quoting Oden on the subject, by all means post it.

BNM

I'm on my iPad so it's like pulling teeth. Now you're making me go to my computer. Alright I'll do it for you cause I like you.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I'm on my iPad so it's like pulling teeth. Now you're making me go to my computer. Alright I'll do it for you cause I like you.

Appreciate it.

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

This was the link...

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingb...home-and-se=1&blockID=669030&feedID=5212&qv=1

And there was no "actual quotes" by Oden; but in all honesty; if he puts his house up for sale and goes back to Indiana; then in his statement he talks about having a "Fresh Start"; I think it was pretty obvious he didn't want to ever play again in Portland.

 

[noknobs]

Link please. I don't recall hearing anything of the sort. Not saying it didn't happen, but if it did, you should be able to back it up with some proof.

BNM

http://www.blazersedge.com/2012/3/13/2869038/haynes-blazers-c-greg-oden-selling-portland-home

has no intentions of returning once he's an unrestricted free agent at season's end

That was 10 days ago. They waived him 8 days ago. 10 > 8.

 

[C_note]

Yup, and the team was like "Well, fuck it then. Just go away"

 

[Boob-No-More]

http://www.blazersedge.com/2012/3/13/2869038/haynes-blazers-c-greg-oden-selling-portland-home

You left out the most important part of that "quote":

"A source close to the situation"

That's not a quote from Oden. The "source" could be anyone. It could have been someone within the organization spinning the situation to prepare the fans for waiving Oden two days later. To make it appear Oden wanted out, not that the team was planning to cut him to clear a roster spot for a pending trade.

And, that same article also says:

"Oden underwent two knee surgeries in February, including a microfracture surgery on his left knee, and it's unclear whether he will be able to play basketball again."

So, which is it? Is the ungrateful prick going to go elsewhere and be the dominant once-a-generation center we were all promised, or will he never play again?

Sorry, I don't consider a self-contradictory article quoting an unnamed source definitive proof of anything. Oden wasn't even interviewed for that article, yet we're supposed to believe the article reflects his feelings. He may, or may not, actually feel that way. The article proves neither. It's pure conjecture.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

True story: I was at the airport when Greg left Portland and after he got through security he turned around and gave everyone the double-barrel "FU" shouting "to hell with Portland!!" Pretty damning if you ask me.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Lucky for Oden he was a complete flop. That makes him a saint. If he had been an almost really good player (like Sheed), he would be satan incarnate.

 

[Boob-No-More]

True story: I was at the airport when Greg left Portland and after he got through security he turned around and gave everyone the double-barrel "FU" shouting "to hell with Portland!!" Pretty damning if you ask me.

And, based on the standards of our local media, that makes you "a source close to the situation". Case closed, some unnamed person said it happened, therefore it did. Look for your words to be quoted in the Oregonian, on Blazers Edge, in Canzano's column and on Jaynes' blog. That's all it takes around here for speculation and rumor to become accepted as fact.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

And, based on the standards of our local media, that makes you "a source close to the situation". Case closed, some unnamed person said it happened, therefore it did. Look for your words to be quoted in the Oregonian, on Blazers Edge, in Canzano's column and on Jaynes' blog. That's all it takes around here for speculation and rumor to become accepted as fact.

BNM

I look forward to it

 

[Boob-No-More]

I look forward to it

Yes, this is your big opportunity to be famous - in an anonymous, unnamed sort of way.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

The impossible dream.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The impossible dream.

You could be the next Unknown Comic. You could be the Unnamed Source and be interviewed after every game with a bag over your head.

Or you could be the next Deep Throat. Watergate version or Linda Lovelace, your choice.

BNM

 

[noknobs]

You left out the most important part of that "quote":

"A source close to the situation"

That's not a quote from Oden. The "source" could be anyone. It could have been someone within the organization spinning the situation to prepare the fans for waiving Oden two days later. To make it appear Oden wanted out, not that the team was planning to cut him to clear a roster spot for a pending trade.

If that makes you feel better...

I'll go with a source close to the situation over you're weak theory that you pulled out of thin air. The team could have waived him instead of Armon Johnson a short time before all of this. What changed? Why would a team that kept him for 5 years of injuries, suddenly waive him if Greg wanted to stay? It doesn't take Matlock to figure this one out. I suppose the team was selling his house too... part of their grand scheme to make Oden look bad. Jesus Christ.

And, that same article also says:

"Oden underwent two knee surgeries in February, including a microfracture surgery on his left knee, and it's unclear whether he will be able to play basketball again."

So, which is it? Is the ungrateful prick going to go elsewhere and be the dominant once-a-generation center we were all promised, or will he never play again?

Sorry, I don't consider a self-contradictory article quoting an unnamed source definitive proof of anything. Oden wasn't even interviewed for that article, yet we're supposed to believe the article reflects his feelings. He may, or may not, actually feel that way. The article proves neither. It's pure conjecture.

BNM

The fact it's unclear if he can come back, and the fact he wants to return to basketball, do not contradict each other... You're not even making sense.

As for it reflecting his feelings - All it said was he has no intention of playing again for Portland. And Greg even said as much in his farewell message, "as I move forward in a new direction." This isn't an opinion. Sorry you're having such a hard time handling this simple fact.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If that makes you feel better...

I'll go with a source close to the situation over you're weak theory that you pulled out of thin air. The team could have waived him instead of Armon Johnson a short time before all of this. What changed? Why would a team that kept him for 5 years of injuries, suddenly waive him if Greg wanted to stay? It doesn't take Matlock to figure this one out. I suppose the team was selling his house too... part of their grand scheme to make Oden look bad. Jesus Christ.



The fact it's unclear if he can come back, and the fact he wants to return to basketball, do not contradict each other... You're not even making sense.

As for it reflecting his feelings - All it said was he has no intention of playing again for Portland. And Greg even said as much in his farewell message, "as I move forward in a new direction." This isn't an opinion. Sorry you're having such a hard time handling this simple fact.

Whatever. If you want to believe unnamed sources that have their own agendas, be my guest. That doesn't make the things those sources claim factual in any way. But if that helps justify your hatred of Greg Oden, be my guest.

BNM