Grizzlies sign F Miles to second 10-day contract

[rocketeer]

PapaG is angry with Memphis being 'unethical' in signing Miles to whack Portland's cap space. Is that unethical? Maybe. But, he also supports claiming a player off waivers, denying him any playing time or oppurtunity, essentially holding him captive on the bench (hell probably not even letting him come to the arena). Is that unethical? Maybe.

I'm just sayin...

i wouldn't even say it would be unethical for memphis to sign miles just to wreck the blazers cap space. that's a smart business move by memphis. just like i have no problem with the "threatening" email the blazers sent out and would have no problem if they actually followed through with the threat had memphis not actually given miles meaningful minutes.

 

[JE]

i wouldn't even say it would be unethical for memphis to sign miles just to wreck the blazers cap space. that's a smart business move by memphis. just like i have no problem with the "threatening" email the blazers sent out and would have no problem if they actually followed through with the threat had memphis not actually given miles meaningful minutes.

I agree with that, Portland and Memphis are competing for free agents this summer. Memphis played completely by the rules, and the Blazers are bitter about it.



I was just saying, PapaG thinks its unethical for the Grizzlies to do what they did, but his Blazers would be doing something equally unethical if they had bought him in and locked him away for the rest of the year. Contradictions FTL.

 

[alex42083]

Yet more evidence of the curse...

The Grizz lost to the Knicks tonight by 20.

So, that's 8 in a row and a fired coach. Congratulations to Chris Wallace. Your franchise is now the laughing stock of the entire NBA.

BNM

+1. Chris Wallace is a joke.

 

[maxiep]

PapaG is angry with Memphis being 'unethical' in signing Miles to whack Portland's cap space. Is that unethical? Maybe. But, he also supports claiming a player off waivers, denying him any playing time or oppurtunity, essentially holding him captive on the bench (hell probably not even letting him come to the arena). Is that unethical? Maybe.



I'm just sayin...

I think many would wish to be "held hostage" at a guaranteed veteran minimum for doing nothing.

 

[alex42083]

Darius had a stellar game tonight: 4 points, 3 boards, 5 TOs, and a +/- of -24... ouch. That's a lot in just 16 mins.

 

[rocketeer]

I think many would wish to be "held hostage" at a guaranteed veteran minimum for doing nothing.

i'm not sure that what many would wish is relevant in any way to the situation. miles is making millions regardless. he has a contract and is getting paid whether the money is on portland's cap or not. the veteran minimum is much less than what he's already making and i think he's made it pretty clear that he wants to play basketball. i'd say that most people in his situation with his desires absolutely want to go wherever it is that they'll have a chance to play(in the nba) rather than to be "held hostage" and make a little bit more money.

 

[LOTBfan]

Interesting to see what their plan will be now that Iavaroni has been fired.

 

[PapaG]

PapaG is angry with Memphis being 'unethical' in signing Miles to whack Portland's cap space. Is that unethical? Maybe. But, he also supports claiming a player off waivers, denying him any playing time or oppurtunity, essentially holding him captive on the bench (hell probably not even letting him come to the arena). Is that unethical? Maybe.



I'm just sayin...

Memphis went dirty first, and the Blazers responded as they could within the CBA to protect their money and their asset. Once a basic trust in business is violated, things get ugly. I just don't like the Blazers being portrayed as the bad guys when they have done everything by the book.

 

[PapaG]

I agree with that, Portland and Memphis are competing for free agents this summer. Memphis played completely by the rules, and the Blazers are bitter about it.



I was just saying, PapaG thinks its unethical for the Grizzlies to do what they did, but his Blazers would be doing something equally unethical if they had bought him in and locked him away for the rest of the year. Contradictions FTL.

How so? How is abiding by the contract and keeping a player that no other team in the league wanted to claim unethical? I'd love to hear the answer how signing the Grizzlies' trash is unethical. Memphis didn't even see the guy worthy of keeping around, so they cut him. The Blazers would haven't had a shot at Miles if Memphis had never released him.

 

[rocketeer]

Memphis went dirty first, and the Blazers responded as they could within the CBA to protect their money and their asset. Once a basic trust in business is violated, things get ugly. I just don't like the Blazers being portrayed as the bad guys when they have done everything by the book.

i'm still trying to figure out why there needs to be a "bad guy" in this situation. i'm not seeing one.

 

[JE]

Memphis went dirty first, and the Blazers responded as they could within the CBA to protect their money and their asset. Once a basic trust in business is violated, things get ugly. I just don't like the Blazers being portrayed as the bad guys when they have done everything by the book.

Memphis didn't do anything wrong. You and them are competing for the same free agents this summer. They did what they could to take a swipe at your cap room. There is no problem with that, you are competitors. Obviously it doesn't guarantee Memphis any free agents, but they still took a very appealing destination away for the 2009 free agents.

 

[JE]

How so? How is abiding by the contract and keeping a player that no other team in the league wanted to claim unethical? I'd love to hear the answer how signing the Grizzlies' trash is unethical. Memphis didn't even see the guy worthy of keeping around, so they cut him. The Blazers would haven't had a shot at Miles if Memphis had never released him.

Uhhh... Memphis re-signed Miles and he's playing. Don't see what your argument there is.


Signing a player and holding him hostage (denying him any PT, probably keeping him away from the team altogether) is every bit as unethical as whatever you accuse Memphis of doing.

 

[JE]

I think many would wish to be "held hostage" at a guaranteed veteran minimum for doing nothing.

Easy for you to say.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Fear the curse.

The Grizz just lost to the Nets by 11. That's nine in a row - by an average margin of defeat of 13.1 points. Not only are they losing, they are getting killed.

I repeat - Fear the curse.

BNM

 

[PapaG]

Uhhh... Memphis re-signed Miles and he's playing. Don't see what your argument there is.

Signing a player and holding him hostage (denying him any PT, probably keeping him away from the team altogether) is every bit as unethical as whatever you accuse Memphis of doing.

Portland tried to claim him and guarantee his contract after Memphis threw him in the garbage. Not sure why you are trolling here other than that the mods don't like me. Did they cry to you about me? Learn the facts about the situation, then post further.

 

[PapaG]

Fear the curse.

The Grizz just lost to the Nets by 11. That's nine in a row - by an average margin of defeat of 13.1 points. Not only are they losing, they are getting killed.

I repeat - Fear the curse.

BNM

Miles with yet another game without an assist. I hope the Grizzlies fold at this point. If Chris Wallace can still have a GM job, everybody else in the USA should have a job.

 

[JE]

Don't know how I'm just now seeing this...

Portland tried to claim him and guarantee his contract after Memphis threw him in the garbage.

And lock him away on the bench. Which is equally as unethical as what you accuse Memphis of doing.

Not sure why you are trolling here other than that the mods don't like me. Did they cry to you about me?

I don't have the pro-Blazers opinion in this instance, therefore I am trolling. Nice one.

Learn the facts about the situation, then post further.

Back at you.

 

[PapaG]

Apparently Mo Cheeks turned down Hollins' offer to be an assistant in Memphis.

Nice to see Mo make a solid decision.

 

[drexlersdad]

Memphis didn't do anything wrong. You and them are competing for the same free agents this summer. They did what they could to take a swipe at your cap room. There is no problem with that, you are competitors. Obviously it doesn't guarantee Memphis any free agents, but they still took a very appealing destination away for the 2009 free agents.

ignorance. portland could still have 15 million or so in cap room. they took away nothing of the sort.

 

[JE]

ignorance. portland could still have 15 million or so in cap room. they took away nothing of the sort.

At least, put a dent in it. You know what I'm driving at.

 

[alex42083]

Fear the curse.

The Grizz just lost to the Nets by 11. That's nine in a row - by an average margin of defeat of 13.1 points. Not only are they losing, they are getting killed.

I repeat - Fear the curse.

BNM

You can probably make that 10 in a row after they play Denver tonight. Chris Wallace sucks!

 

[alex42083]

Hmm.. Miles with 10 points tonight as they keep leading Denver. Can the Grizzlies help us out?

 

[DaRizzle]

In other MEM news...

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP)—The Memphis Grizzlies have waived three-time All-Star Steve Francis.

The Grizzlies had acquired him from Houston in December in exchange for a 2011 conditional second-round draft pick.

Francis, a 6-foot-3, 210-pound guard, did not appear in a game for Memphis or travel with the Grizzlies, though he did occasionally practice with the team.

Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace announced last week that the team was working on a buyout of Francis’ contract. The Grizzlies announced Tuesday that Francis was leaving.

The 31-year-old Francis averaged 18.1 points, 5.6 rebounds and 6.0 assists in nine seasons with Houston, the Orlando Magic and New York Knicks. He was an All-Star in 2002, 2003 and 2004.

link

 

[Boob-No-More]

The curse lives.

That's 10 in a row. Another double digit loss.

Fear the curse.

BNM

 

[BrianFromWA]

Don't know how I'm just now seeing this...



And lock him away on the bench. Which is equally as unethical as what you accuse Memphis of doing.

Next up on the Feud: Shavlik's Breach of Ethics Lawsuit against the Blazers for not getting off the bench this year. How dare they!

 

[Денг Гордон]

Next up on the Feud: Shavlik's Breach of Ethics Lawsuit against the Blazers for not getting off the bench this year. How dare they!

The difference is that with Shavlik, the Blazers aren't trying to circumvent the salary cap, while with Miles, they would be.

It explicitly says in the CBA that the NBA has the right to block any transaction or action that it deems is an attempt to circumvent the salary cap.

 

[barfo]

The difference is that with Shavlik, the Blazers aren't trying to circumvent the salary cap, while with Miles, they would be.

Plus, I thought Shavlik got on the court the other night?

barfo

 

[alex42083]

In other MEM news...



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So what was the point on getting Francis and giving up a pick? Or was this just another stupid move that Chris Wallace made that he threw against the wall to see if something would work? That guy is a complete idiot.

 

[Ed O]

So what was the point on getting Francis and giving up a pick? Or was this just another stupid move that Chris Wallace made that he threw against the wall to see if something would work? That guy is a complete idiot.

Presumably they got enough money to make it worth their while.

Arithmetic's not hard, and I have a difficult time thinking that Chris Wallace simply can't count.

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

The difference is that with Shavlik, the Blazers aren't trying to circumvent the salary cap, while with Miles, they would be.
It explicitly says in the CBA that the NBA has the right to block any transaction or action that it deems is an attempt to circumvent the salary cap.

That's up for debate. Miles was not the property of any team when PDX tried to claim him, and Miles would have been paid for the rest of the season. I'm not sure how this circumvents the cap when other moves that are clearly made only for financial reasons are allowed by the NBA.