Gun Control, Mental healthcare, big brother... thread (4 Viewers)

[MarAzul]

How will the person know if it's valid?

You know that kids can buy fake IDs over the internet. You don't think a criminal, terrorist or illegal immigrant could?

What's to say the gun seller is even ethical? Give the guy a couple of hundred bucks to say he saw an ID would circumnavigate that requirement.

Very Good Sly! See how fucking dumb messing around with the good guys is! It doesn't stop any want a be shooter.

 

[riverman]

not good enough...you were also smoking pot

 

[SlyPokerDog]

See how hard this is! Even a self appointed know it all like Sly, can't produce one solution that would have stopped the shooter. Just taut the shit out of back ground checks which he passed.

Yes, it is hard. So your answer is to make it easier for anyone, terrorist, criminal, or illegal alien to get a gun.

 

[riverman]

See how hard this is! Even a self appointed know it all like Sly, can't produce one solution that would have stopped the shooter. Just taut the shit out of back ground checks which he passed.

Hitler probably would have passed a background check

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Very Good Sly! See how fucking dumb messing around with the good guys is! It doesn't stop any want a be shooter.

And who decides who the good guys are? According to you everyone who wants a gun is a good guy.

 

[MarAzul]

Your the one who doesn't want any restrictions or regulations because they are inconvenient to you.

Of course I do not want to be inconvenienced, bravo you fucking twit! What I want is a solution that stops these shooters! Now save the drivel and come with the Solution.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Of course I do not want to be inconvenienced, bravo you fucking twit! What I want is a solution that stops these shooters! Now save the drivel and come with the Solution.

And does that inconvenience standard apply to just guns?

 

[riverman]

Of course I do not want to be inconvenienced, bravo you fucking twit! What I want is a solution that stops these shooters! Now save the drivel and come with the Solution.

unfortunately, there isn't a single solution to the rage...it starts with education and parenting, move on from there but it shouldn't be as easy as it is to obtain assault weapons and tons of ammo without some restrictions ..you have your handgun with your permit but spare me the bazooka in your basement

 

[MarAzul]

everyone who wants a gun is a good guy

Probably not but perhaps a set can be defined, and those that don't fit the profile or have not yet proved their worth, might be subjected to more than a little back ground check.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Of course I do not want to be inconvenienced, bravo you fucking twit! What I want is a solution that stops these shooters! Now save the drivel and come with the Solution.

So I can be pro gun ownership but unless I belief anyone who wants one should have one I'm a nitwit.

 

[riverman]

I expect to start seeing a rise in security guards working places I've never seen them before

 

[MarAzul]

unfortunately, there isn't a single solution to the rage...it starts with education and parenting, move on from there but it shouldn't be as easy as it is to obtain assault weapons and tons of ammo without some restrictions ..you have your handgun with your permit but spare me the bazooka in your basement

Well I disagree. I would like a 40mm grenade launcher and M2 for the bow if I want to travel through pirate infested waters.

 

[riverman]

I grew up on a large dairy farm and had to go to school for two weeks and pass tests to operate combines, heavy farm equipment and drive it on public roads..you had to be 14. The restrictions to get an algricultural license to drive a tractor were more difficult than the restrictions to get really dangerous weapons

 

[riverman]

Well I disagree. I would like a 40mm grenade launcher and M2 for the bow if I want to travel through pirate infested waters.

Or just not sail pirate infested waters would be an option

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Probably not but perhaps a set can be defined, and those that don't fit the profile or have not yet proved their worth, might be subjected to more than a little back ground check.

Please, tell me more about this profiling you want gun sellers to do. Or this worth you think someone should have.

So, if I were a gun seller I should profile you and judge if you are worthy enough to purchase a gun? But I couldn't make those judgements based on if you were legally here or not a criminal? So accent? Skin color? Saggy pants?

 

[riverman]

Nobody in their right mind sails the coast of Somalia or Mindanao for vacation

 

[riverman]

Please, tell me more about this profiling you want gun sellers to do. Or this worth you think someone should have.

So, if I were a gun seller I should profile you and judge if you are worthy enough to purchase a gun? But I couldn't make those judgements based on if you were legally here or not a criminal? So accent? Skin color? Saggy pants?

payola, you probably make minimum wage at the gun shop

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Well I disagree. I would like a 40mm grenade launcher and M2 for the bow if I want to travel through pirate infested waters.

Can't you have those things if you are in international waters? I see no problem you owning them. Just make sure you don't when you come into US waters.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Nobody in their right mind sails the coast of Somalia or Mindanao for vacation

I have no problem if people want to sail there.

 

[MarAzul]

Or just not sail pirate infested waters would be an option

It is the only option now. It sure adds a lot miles to some voyages though. Kind a dumb that the Nations of the world allow pirates on the seas in about 4 major areas, but they will not permit
regular people to legally be arm doing the lawful thing like check in and out with Customs and Immigration. Pirates do not bother.

 

[riverman]

I have no problem if people want to sail there.

especially if they are pirates anyway

 

[Hobbesarable]

Nobody in their right mind sails the coast of Somalia or Mindanao for vacation

They would certainly have more firepower!

 

[MarAzul]

Nobody in their right mind sails the coast of Somalia or Mindanao for vacation

Make that the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea, and the whole South China Sea. You can add Proximity of North Africa too, Med and Atlantic.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

especially if they are pirates anyway

If you want to sail there then sail there. Just don't call the US government if you get in trouble.

 

[riverman]

If you want to sail there then sail there. Just don't call the US government if you get in trouble.

Those pirates don't know the one phone call rule

 

[MarAzul]

Please, tell me more about this profiling you want gun sellers to do. Or this worth you think someone should have.

So, if I were a gun seller I should profile you and judge if you are worthy enough to purchase a gun? But I couldn't make those judgements based on if you were legally here or not a criminal? So accent? Skin color? Saggy pants?

Put a civil tongue in your mouth, and assume a respectful tone, I may enlighten you one day.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Put a civil tongue in your mouth, and assume a respectful tone, I may enlighten you one day.

I'm being civil, you're the one doing the name calling.

you fucking twit!

I'm asking for additional information. You're the one who doesn't want background checks but wants to use profiling and worthiness to decide who should and shouldn't own guns. I want to know what your standard will be for this and how it will be decided and enforced.

those that don't fit the profile or have not yet proved their worth

 

[riverman]

Put a civil tongue in your mouth, and assume a respectful tone, I may enlighten you one day.

tongue is better pickled and served on rye

 

[MarAzul]

tongue is better pickled and served on rye

Ha! More like to happen too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I don't believe felons, or illegals, or even people who are here legally should own guns. I'm interested in using mental illness as a factor for gun ownership but that needs to be carefully and narrowly defined. I think that is much more logical and reasonable than no background checks.