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If it wasn't Columbus, it would have been another European trader/explorer. I think that the European discovery, colonization and ultimate domination of the western hemisphere is something to be celebrated, even if Columbus as an individual left a lot to be desired.

Name me a part of human history that didn't include winners and losers and I will be quite surprised.

Most indigenous people were "exterminated" because they had lived in an isolated fashion from communicable diseases. The black death killed about half of Europe's population in the 1300's and reduced global population overall... and was just one of a number of plagues that struck.

I am sorry that so many millions of indigenous people died in the Americas, but no more sorry than I am that the black death was so terrible a few hundreds of years earlier. The reality is that we are here, now, and I believe that my life (and the lives of everyone I know) is better because of European conquest of the New World and I'm happy it happened.

*yawn*

Applying 20th century norms to things that happened centuries earlier is worthless most of the time, IMO.

Next time we discover new continents full of people with little or no immunity to diseases that killed vast quantities of our population previously, we will know to wear rubber suits.

Would that be better?

We sought to "exterminate" its people? That's ridiculous. And how does one exterminate and enslave people at the same time?

Slavery and murder--on a micro and macro level--were commonplace throughout history. Acting like we cannot celebrate the good that came from history just because there is bad intermingled strikes me as a bad way to look at the world.

Who is "them"? Weren't there hundreds of tribes throughout the Americas? I don't think that some cases of handing out infected blankets indicate an intentional destruction of two continents' worth of people.

Name a part of the world where that hasn't happened. There are winners and losers throughout history.

Because it lead to our country being founded, and to lives around the world being enriched by the good that our country (and, indeed, the countries of the Americas more generally) has done.

Did you freeze the video each time it showed silent writing, to give you time to read it? As I read each of the disgusting posts, I thought

this. the internet at its finest
 
I'd like to propose a 'Black Death' appreciation day for all of Europe.

You know, to honor the descendants of the 'winners'.
 
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In the 60s I used to think, there will sure be a big celebration in 1992 of 1492. A few articles in Oct. 1992 mentioned that there wouldn't be any events because maybe Columbus wasn't such a good man. They barely mentioned that this was widely taught in Latin America, with Cuba initiating such education years ago. Not celebrating was a PR move by the US to prevent anti-American feeling south of the border. Meanwhile, many government employees still get a holiday on Columbus Day. More important, American schools still indoctrinate children in patriotic lies.
 
Did you freeze the video each time it showed silent writing, to give you time to read it? As I read each of the disgusting posts, I thought

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Ed O.
 
I'd like to propose a 'Black Death' appreciation day for all of Europe.

You know, to honor the descendants of the 'winners'.

No one of consequence gives a shit about your proposals :)

Ed O.
 
wtf, like anyone gives a shit about yours? what a cocksuckerish thing to say :lol:
 
wtf, like anyone gives a shit about yours? what a cocksuckerish thing to say :lol:

I'm not saying that my opinion matters, either. And I'm not saying that I don't care about his proposal.

Ed O.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about.

The film went too fast through some of the following subtitles, forcing the viewer to hit the pause button to read them. Since you defended the following practices as historically inevitable and not to be lamented, I thought that maybe you had missed some.

"They are well-built people of handsome structure... and show as much love as if they were giving their hearts...With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."

Columbus returned to the island with seventeen ships, fifteen hundred men, and a message from God.

"They hanged 13 natives at a time in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the 12 Apostles...straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive. They took babies from their mothers' breasts, grabbing them by their feet and smashing them against rocks. They would cut an Indian's hands and leave them dangling by a shred of skin and threw others to the dogs, and thus they were torn to pieces."
--Bartolome de Las Casas
 
Thousands of indigenous people turned on their own race and helped the Spanish conquer South America. In fact most of the Spanish "forces" consisted of Native Americans that helped kill or battle other Native Americans.
 
The film went too fast through some of the following subtitles, forcing the viewer to hit the pause button to read them. Since you defended the following practices as historically inevitable and not to be lamented, I thought that maybe you had missed some.

You're still not making any sense to me.

Ed O.
 
i came to covered in blood, using a torso as a pillow. my first instinct was to go for my gun and start shooting...why did i have a gun? then i remembered i was a cop, and i had just slipped on a pancreas at the crime scene. my fucking head is killing me. i wipe my face off with a towel, what a fucking mess in here, this guy had no sense of organization. legs on top of scalps, eyes resting on a foot....clearly he should have arranged them in descending order, torsos/legs/arms/heads/other. Dr. octagon was pacing around the room wildly, he was a vampire on the weekend, some larping thing, and was working himself into a frenzied heart palpitating fever...i dragged him into a corner to try and chill him the fuck out, he was blowing my cover.

"whats your theory doctor?"

"asphyxiation" he gasped, "most likely by prolifically strong hands"

"is it peculiar that his right deltoid should be missing? it appears to have been torn right out..."

"it wasnt torn!" he shrieked as he choked on the air, "this...is... CANNIBALISM!"
 
i came to covered in blood, using a torso as a pillow. my first instinct was to go for my gun and start shooting...why did i have a gun? then i remembered i was a cop, and i had just slipped on a pancreas at the crime scene. my fucking head is killing me. i wipe my face off with a towel, what a fucking mess in here, this guy had no sense of organization. legs on top of scalps, eyes resting on a foot....clearly he should have arranged them in descending order, torsos/legs/arms/heads/other. Dr. octagon was pacing around the room wildly, he was a vampire on the weekend, some larping thing, and was working himself into a frenzied heart palpitating fever...i dragged him into a corner to try and chill him the fuck out, he was blowing my cover.

"whats your theory doctor?"

"asphyxiation" he gasped, "most likely by prolifically strong hands"

"is it peculiar that his right deltoid should be missing? it appears to have been torn right out..."

"it wasnt torn!" he shrieked as he choked on the air, "this...is... CANNIBALISM!"

Solid C+.

The introduction was quite debonair, but the ending dialogue was vaporous and bromidic. Also "descending" would imply top -> down, or heads/arms/torso/legs in other words.
 
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when i said descending, i meant in order of size, anyone would gather that, considering the context

but thanks for the note
 
Thousands of indigenous people turned on their own race and helped the Spanish conquer South America. In fact most of the Spanish "forces" consisted of Native Americans that helped kill or battle other Native Americans.


Nice Try in Justifying a Genocide. The spanish were ruthless. They raped, tortured, plundered, and fed innocent people to hungry dogs. No way to morally justify their actions.

WWJD
 
Nice Try in Justifying a Genocide. The spanish were ruthless. They raped, tortured, plundered, and fed innocent people to hungry dogs. No way to morally justify their actions.

WWJD

Haha you think I'm super religious, I found that funny.

Also I wasn't justifying jack, I was reporting the news.
 
when i said descending, i meant in order of size, anyone would gather that, considering the context

but thanks for the note

The context is still not sufficient though. An arm is longer than a head but not larger, per se.

"Voluminosity" would have been clear.
 
i think there is something lost in translation

try a paid site, they are much more accurate

:lol:
 
i think there is something lost in translation

try a paid site, they are much more accurate

:lol:

Apparently "volume" is too complex for you to understand? That just proves my point.

Sly is rubbernecking. :lol:
 
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oh give it a rest skinbeef, maybe you need to cool it on the cuban coffee :biglaugh:
 
Jesus Christ I would hate to be one of your math teachers. :lol:

Also Sly why the fuck are you editing my smileys as well? Sensitive huh? Lay off brah.
 
gosh i would hate to meet one of your hairstylists!

wtf, no habla
 
Jesus Christ I would hate to be one of your math teachers. :lol:

Also Sly why the fuck are you editing my smileys as well? Sensitive huh? Lay off brah.

Not sensitive at all brah. I just deleted the entire line. Sorry. This time I made sure to leave the smiley.
 
this game is sooo fucking boring

"you really dont know what urchins are do you"

weeeee that was a blast

maybe its a cultural thing, like eating flan and dogs :lol:
 
this game is sooo fucking boring

"you really dont know what urchins are do you"

weeeee that was a blast

maybe its a cultural thing, like eating flan and dogs :lol:

Nah brah, I'm pretty sure you and Maris need to take some math courses together.

Lol but nice try.
 
ooh cool! that sounds like a blast! then maybe you can watch a porno and find out what sex is

but when it says doggystyle, dont use an actual dog, you might get hungry later
 

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