'Harry Potter' Actress' Brother Sentenced in Her 'Honor Beating'

[PapaG]

Religion of Peace.

http://www.foxnews.com//entertainme...s-brother-sentenced-honor-beating/?test=faces

The brother of the Muslim actress Afshan Azad, who played Padma Patil in the “Harry Potter” films, was sentenced to six months in prison Thursday for beating his sister after he heard her talking to her Hindu boyfriend.

Ashraf Azad, 28, called his sister a “prostitute” and screamed ''Marry a Muslim or you die!'' during a three-hour beating, during which, the actress said in a Manchester, England court, she feared for her life.

Afshan Azad, 21, was punched, strangled, and dragged by her hair by her brother, but she still pleaded for the judge’s leniency during the sentencing hearing, and asked he not be jailed.

Judge Roger Thomas would not hear of it, noting ''The background to this offense lies in the concern that you, and perhaps other family members, had about Afshan's relationship with a young man who was not of the Islamic faith.''

The judge also pointed out the “persistent attack was accompanied by serious and very hurtful abuse and threats. It must have been a miserable and frightening experience for your sister.”

''This is a sentence that is designed to punish you for what you did and also to send out a clear message to others that domestic violence involving circumstances such as have arisen here cannot be tolerated,” the judge said.

Afshan Azad’s family members recounted in court a harrowing night in which her father and mother also called her names, made threats and started making plans to give her away in an arranged marriage to a Muslim man in Bangladesh.

"I'm going to kill you. I'm actually going to kill you," the brother said, according to court testimony. He was then heard shouting "Where are the knives?"

Apparenty his own wife had already hidden them.

"She was told she had to marry a Muslim or you die," prosecutor Richard Vardon said.

Afshan Azad snuck out a window the next morning.

"She realized she would have to leave and felt she could not live any longer in that environment," Vardon said.

 

[THE HCP]

She should have used her wand on him!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I hope he has some special boy friends in jail.

 

[julius]

I hope he has some special boy friends in jail.

unlucky for him, he's not in a country that overwhelmingly condones that behavior/is severely paternalistic.

 

[Sug]

I am glad there is nothing like this in the Holy Bible...and that nobody would ever follow it literally.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Religion of Peace.

Thrilling analysis.

 

[jlprk]

You notice there were no injuries, and that the parents were the real arguers, with the male kid taking their side and making it a sibling fight. She's now learned about the severity of Western legal systems and will never fink about a family fight again. And anyone who enjoys wishing gay rape on prisoners belongs there himself.

 

[Ed O]

You notice there were no injuries, and that the parents were the real arguers, with the male kid taking their side and making it a sibling fight. She's now learned about the severity of Western legal systems and will never fink about a family fight again. And anyone who enjoys wishing gay rape on prisoners belongs there himself.

I agree with the whole "rape in prison" thing... that's terrible.

But if the allegations are true, that a 28 year-old man choked and punched a 21 year-old woman, he should spend a bit of time in the pokey. No pun intended.

Ed O.

 

[BrianFromWA]

You notice there were no injuries, and that the parents were the real arguers, with the male kid taking their side and making it a sibling fight. She's now learned about the severity of Western legal systems and will never fink about a family fight again.

"Afshan Azad, 21, was punched, strangled, and dragged by her hair by her brother"

You're right...those overly severe western legal systems should just let families police themselves. Where's the Shar'ia Code when you need it? Bitches be needin' punchin', stranglin' and draggin', right?

Oh yeah, and Carmelo agrees....Stop Snitchin'.

 

[MARIS61]

Religion of Peace.

http://www.foxnews.com//entertainme...s-brother-sentenced-honor-beating/?test=faces

You misread the article something terrible.

Ashraf Azad was on trial, not Islam.

Ashraf Azad, not Islam, beat his sister.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

You notice there were no injuries, and that the parents were the real arguers, with the male kid taking their side and making it a sibling fight. She's now learned about the severity of Western legal systems and will never fink about a family fight again. And anyone who enjoys wishing gay rape on prisoners belongs there himself.

I don't give a F what you think. Anyone who does that needs a "cleansing".

 

[Ed O]

You misread the article something terrible.

Ashraf Azad was on trial, not Islam.

Ashraf Azad, not Islam, beat his sister.

If someone beat his white sister for dating a black guy, could it be properly construed as further evidence of how racism is bad?

I don't think that this case indicates all of Islam is bad, but presumably that guy learned to keep his sister away from Hindus somewhere.

Ed O.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I don't think that this case indicates all of Islam is bad, but presumably that guy learned to keep his sister away from Hindus somewhere.

Ed O.

But acts of this kind are so numerous with Muslims as well as other acts of violence against women that it does prove out that Islam's views of women as nothing more than chattel with no basic human rights is absolutely wrong. I mean, aside from not letting women vote, it's a pretty screwed up religion.

 

[MARIS61]

If someone beat his white sister for dating a black guy, could it be properly construed as further evidence of how racism is bad?

I don't think that this case indicates all of Islam is bad, but presumably that guy learned to keep his sister away from Hindus somewhere.

Ed O.

Violence is passed down from violent parents, with the exception of the occasional guy who's just born crazy or bumps his head.

Islam and other religions are simply harmless words and nothing more.

Any true religious experience comes from within one's self, not from a storybook.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Any true religious experience comes from within one's self, not from a storybook.

Care to expand on that thought? It was an interesting statement.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

But acts of this kind are so numerous with Muslims as well as other acts of violence against women that it does prove out that Islam's views of women as nothing more than chattel with no basic human rights is absolutely wrong. I mean, aside from not letting women vote, it's a pretty screwed up religion.

"Honor beatings" are not numerous.

Saying that Islam views women as personal property with no human rights just tells me you don't know much about Islam outside of what you hear shouted by American pundits.

"Islam" doesn't prevent women from voting, governments do. However, the only Muslim country that doesn't have women's suffrage is Saudi Arabia.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I don't think that this case indicates all of Islam is bad, but presumably that guy learned to keep his sister away from Hindus somewhere.

From his family, who sound like fundamentalists.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Saying that Islam views women as personal property with no human rights just tells me you don't know much about Islam outside of what you hear shouted by American pundits.

OK, here's your chance. Defend the treatment of women in Afghanistan prior to our arrival.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

OK, here's your chance. Defend the treatment of women in Afghanistan prior to our arrival.

Sorry, I forgot you're one of the ones that think the Taliban represents the entire Muslim religion. My mistake.

Here's YOUR chance to show that you can at least read a Wikipedia article before talking shit.

 

[bluefrog]

Sorry, I forgot you're one of the ones that think the Taliban represents the entire Muslim religion. My mistake.

Here's YOUR chance to show that you can at least read a Wikipedia article before talking shit.

Taliban = KKK

 

[jlprk]

If you subtract 1) the sexist posters who are pissed off that it was male vs. female, and 2) the warmonger posters who are pissed off because they hate Muslims, and 3) the narcissist posters who are only children and never had siblings to fight with, you are left with those who see this as a family fight, just like any two brothers have at least once while growing up.

Back when Sheed was yelling all the time, I learned that a lot of only children post. Having grown up sheltered, they think every immature violent family fight should give someone a lifelong felony record.

Now if you want to say that society shouldn't be organized along the family system, only then are you being consistent when you demand formal behavior within the family. The only way you're going to eliminate family fights is to eliminate the family.

 

[jlprk]

It's quite a job, to introduce those who love to hate and punish, to the reality of real human conditions, a reality of suffering produced by the system which you insist is better than any other.

Many creative people could easily design a system which would eliminate much of the punishment you think is inevitable, which avenges the suffering you think is inevitable. But you want to fight wars to prevent any new system, and you military types want to kill anyone with imagination. So this won't be ending for quite awhile.

 

[Ed O]

If you subtract 1) the sexist posters who are pissed off that it was male vs. female, and 2) the warmonger posters who are pissed off because they hate Muslims, and 3) the narcissist posters who are only children and never had siblings to fight with, you are left with those who see this as a family fight, just like any two brothers have at least once while growing up.

You're kidding, right? He's 28. She's 21. I fought with my brother and sister until I (the eldest) was around 12. And I never physically had an altercation with my younger sister.

I find it hard to believe you can write off the level of violence alleged as acceptable merely because it's between family members.

Ed O.

 

[Ed O]

From his family, who sound like fundamentalists.

Fundamentalist what?

Ed O.

 

[jlprk]

If you stopped fighting your siblings at age 12, you were a rare duck. This was a family argument, with the parents as the main protagonists, and the brother joining them like a big brother. The legal system made itself look like an ass when it jealously tried to replace the parents as the authority in the family by destroying the brother's lifelong job prospects. If the law wants a system without family structure, it should openly push for that, instead of sniping away at the inevitable fights the system has always produced and always will.

 

[Ed O]

If you stopped fighting your siblings at age 12, you were a rare duck. This was a family argument, with the parents as the main protagonists, and the brother joining them like a big brother.

Choking her? Punching her?

Dragging her by her hair?

Is that really how a 28 year-old brother should be expected to act?

And, yes, I stopped fighting around that age. Arguing? Eff no. But fighting? Yes.

Ed O.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Fundamentalist what?

Holy rollers of course. Did you read the article?

Choking her? Punching her?

Dragging her by her hair?

Is that really how a 28 year-old brother should be expected to act?

And, yes, I stopped fighting around that age. Arguing? Eff no. But fighting? Yes.

And yeah, there isn't really any other way to explain their behavior except that they are either fundamentalists or from a culture that has tribal laws that condone this kind of thing. According to Wiki, they are Bengali. I don't know shit about Bengali culture so I couldn't say.

 

[Ed O]

Holy rollers of course. Did you read the article?

Of course. But surely all fundamentalists aren't the same. Fundamentalist Taoists? Fundamentalist Buddhists?

Are they doing this sort of thing? I guess maybe they are, but I haven't seen it.

And yeah, there isn't really any other way to explain their behavior except that they are either fundamentalists or from a culture that has tribal laws that condone this kind of thing. According to Wiki, they are Bengali. I don't know shit about Bengali culture so I couldn't say.

Why is fundamentalist Islam seemingly so rooted--or at least steeped--in violence?

Ed O.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Of course. But surely all fundamentalists aren't the same. Fundamentalist Taoists? Fundamentalist Buddhists?

Are they doing this sort of thing? I guess maybe they are, but I haven't seen it.

Fundamentalists Muslims, like fundamentalist Christians, have a specific interpretation of their holy text. Usually, this interpretation heavily emphasizes the parts of the Qur'an that condone violence. The whole notion of honor killings though, has a deep root in the tribal aspect of many cultures around the world. I just think that fundamentalists are much more likely to commit such an act due to the idea that such an act is permissible by God.

Why is fundamentalist Islam seemingly so rooted--or at least steeped--in violence?

Like I said before, fundamentalist Islamic creeds tend to focus on violent aspects of the Qu'ran. I don't think this is because Islam is inherently violent (IT IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE AFTER ALL HERP DE DURP), but because of the political and social situations in Muslim lands today. Extremely reactionary and violent belief systems don't usually crop up during times of calm.

Obviously, this is a pretty complicated question that I don't have a real answer to. But at least you asked it, so thanks for playing.

 

[MARIS61]

Of course. But surely all fundamentalists aren't the same. Fundamentalist Taoists? Fundamentalist Buddhists?

Are they doing this sort of thing? I guess maybe they are, but I haven't seen it.

Why is fundamentalist Islam seemingly so rooted--or at least steeped--in violence?

Ed O.

Because they mimic fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Jews and fundamentalist Mormons and fundamentalist hedge fund managers...