Has this become the Blazers' Politics forum? (1 Viewer)

[Cryptkeeper]

All i see are "Obama dun did it 'gain" and other political babbling. (Not to say that there aren't billions of other topics that we babble about).

 

[julius]

All i see are "Obama dun did it 'gain" and other political babbling. (Not to say that there aren't billions of other topics that we babble about).

well, just wait for the next president, and it'll be their fault, or "still blame Obama", thrown in with references to righties bitching about Bush getting blamed years later (as they're blaming Obama..years later).


So, no...it won't change much.

 

[donkiez]

Sometimes we talk about guns and gays. Obama's to blame for those also though.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

well, just wait for the next president, and it'll be their fault, or "still blame Obama", thrown in with references to righties bitching about Bush getting blamed years later (as they're blaming Obama..years later).

So, no...it won't change much.

Shit, they are still blaming Bill Clinton for some stuff, too.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Alex, blame Obama for the way this board has turned out.

 

[santeesioux]

As i've said before, i think every right winger in Portland posts on this forum.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

As i've said before, i think every right winger in Portland posts on this forum.

No. Most of the right-wing is too busy to be posting here, while the left-wing has plenty of time.

Which is why I'm here about 50% of the time. I'm often too busy to be posting here, but I occasionally ignore work to post.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Its not so much that this is an Anti-Obama board, its just his supporters are embarrassed to defend him due to his performance in office.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I didn't realize Obama still had supporters. Pretty much everyone I know that was an Obama supporter, while still being against Republican candidates as President, no longer like and support him.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I didn't realize Obama still had supporters. Pretty much everyone I know that was an Obama supporter, while still being against Republican candidates as President, no longer like and support him.

That's what you get by associating with and getting your news information from conservative circlejerk sources.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

That's what you get by associating with and getting your news information from conservative circlejerk sources.

I'm not sure how you equated me getting news information from my comment about "everyone I know". I never spoke about news sources. I was referring to people I know. I thought that was evident?

I work for a very liberal company. Very. All of my friends are for more liberal than I am. I'd say nearly all of them WERE pro-Obama. Nearly all of them, while staunch Democrats (if there is such a thing), have lost all faith in Obama.

Besides, aside from sports news, the only place I really get any sort of news is from S2. Which, aside from PapaG, is mostly liberal-driven. S2 may be a circlejerk, but I don't think calling it conservative is fair.

 

[Further]

Alex, you may just have to pick and choose which threads to delve into. I've been known for participating heavily in the political threads in the past, but now I just find them tedious, and rarely even click on the threads. But this is where those threads belong, so in the future, when I get a wild political hair up my ass, I'll come here and know there will be plenty of people to debate with. Start your own threads if there's a topic you want to discuss.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Sometimes we talk about guns and gays. Obama's to blame for those also though.

No, silly, it's Bush's fault.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I work for a very liberal company. Very. All of my friends are for more liberal than I am. I'd say nearly all of them WERE pro-Obama. Nearly all of them, while staunch Democrats (if there is such a thing), have lost all faith in Obama.

Obama is what we thought he was all along: a moderate. Talked a big "change" line, but really was cut from the same political cloth as Bill Clinton, another moderate.

It's only the hysterical right media that keeps portraying him as a "socialist", "communist", "class warfare warrior for the poor and lazy", and "worst president ever". Those on the left who thought him to be some super-savior of the liberal causes deserve to be disappointed by their unrealistic expectations of the man.

Those of us on the moderate left are mostly disappointed on his stances on national security and the continuation of xenophobic Bush-era policies, but he has done a decent job on the economy (slowly righting the ship from the shit sandwich that Bush Jr. left the country in) and Obamacare will prove in the future to be a step in the right direction.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama is what we thought he was all along: a moderate. Talked a big "change" line, but really was cut from the same political cloth as Bill Clinton, another moderate.

It's only the hysterical right media that keeps portraying him as a "socialist", "communist", "class warfare warrior for the poor and lazy", and "worst president ever". Those on the left who thought him to be some super-savior of the liberal causes deserve to be disappointed by their unrealistic expectations of the man.

Those of us on the moderate left are mostly disappointed on his stances on national security and the continuation of xenophobic Bush-era policies, but he has done a decent job on the economy (slowly righting the ship from the shit sandwich that Bush Jr. left the country in) and Obamacare will prove in the future to be a step in the right direction.

It's Bush's fault.

 

[PapaG]

All i see are "Obama dun did it 'gain" and other political babbling. (Not to say that there aren't billions of other topics that we babble about).

There are three threads with Obama's name in the title on the front page out of the 25 listed. If you don't have the self-control to skip those threads, that's a you problem, not a we problem. Exaggerating doesn't exactly help your cause in this instance.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Obama is what we thought he was all along: a moderate. Talked a big "change" line, but really was cut from the same political cloth as Bill Clinton, another moderate.

It's only the hysterical right media that keeps portraying him as a "socialist", "communist", "class warfare warrior for the poor and lazy", and "worst president ever". Those on the left who thought him to be some super-savior of the liberal causes deserve to be disappointed by their unrealistic expectations of the man.

Those of us on the moderate left are mostly disappointed on his stances on national security and the continuation of xenophobic Bush-era policies, but he has done a decent job on the economy (slowly righting the ship from the shit sandwich that Bush Jr. left the country in) and Obamacare will prove in the future to be a step in the right direction.

Obama: some good ideas, poor execution.

Of course, the part of the equation I gave him credit for above (good ideas), were not his to begin with.

 

[Eastoff]

Obama: some good ideas, poor execution.

Of course, the part of the equation I gave him credit for above (good ideas), were not his to begin with.

This is basically how I feel as well.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

This is basically how I feel as well.

the sheep say "Baa"

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

the sheep say "Baa"

We built this city on rock and roll......

 

[MarAzul]

This is basically how I feel as well.

Yep, piss poor execution. But what were the good ideas?

Damned if I can recall any of those.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Yep, piss poor execution. But what were the good ideas?

Damned if I can recall any of those.

promoting arab spring as a good thing...
Benghazi was because of a youtube video...
Obamacare...
world wide apology tour...
IRS targeting political groups...
Fast and furious..
Providing arms to groups that we have been fighting..
Lines in the sand..
Red lines..
bah..i dont have the time to continue this list..

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Yep, piss poor execution. But what were the good ideas?

Damned if I can recall any of those.

I am a proponent of universal health care. I also like some of the economic policies that have been enacted. There are other things that I am a fan of, but they elude me at the moment.

There are many things I am also not a fan of. That being said, the ultimate ideas and actions that have been taken were not his own and are things that have been discussed for quite some time (but you can say that about most ideas).

 

[MarAzul]

I am a proponent of universal health care. I also like some of the economic policies that have been enacted. There are other things that I am a fan of, but they elude me at the moment.

There are many things I am also not a fan of. That being said, the ultimate ideas and actions that have been taken were not his own and are things that have been discussed for quite some time (but you can say that about most ideas).

We did not get Universal health care. More people have lost the insurance they had than those that became insured. Then that is only talking about insurance, not health care.

We lost our insurance provided by my former employers, so I bought us a Medicare advantage plan. Wonderful, now I find there is only one doctor in the entire area that is in plan, and she (the Dr,) is not taking new patients. Wtf! I don't know who is making out well in ths system now, but it isn't some of us that were doing just fine.

 

[barfo]

Wonderful, now I find there is only one doctor in the entire area that is in plan

Oh, come on. You live on the south coast - there is only one doctor in the entire area.

And she's a veterinarian.

Luckily you are a veteran.

barfo

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Oh, come on. You live on the south coast - there is only one doctor in the entire area.

And she's a veterinarian.

Luckily you are a veteran.

barfo

damn, Barfo, that was funny!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

We did not get Universal health care. More people have lost the insurance they had than those that became insured. Then that is only talking about insurance, not health care.

We lost our insurance provided by my former employers, so I bought us a Medicare advantage plan. Wonderful, now I find there is only one doctor in the entire area that is in plan, and she (the Dr,) is not taking new patients. Wtf! I don't know who is making out well in ths system now, but it isn't some of us that were doing just fine.

Maybe you missed the part where I said "some good ideas, POOR EXECUTION." Obamacare was supposedly born out of the idea of universal health care. It didn't ultimately end up as such. If I'm to believe it originated out of the concept of universal health care, I believe it's a good idea. How did it turn out? I believe that's poor execution.

We don't need to get into the Obama argument. We're on the same side as far as his job as President.

 

[maxiep]

Disliked President Bush, REALLY dislike President Obama.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Disliked President Bush, REALLY dislike President Obama.

This.

I've been able to vote for President 4 times now (18, 22, 26, and 30).

The guy I voted for has lost every time. I'm going to start voting for the guy I hate.

 

[MickZagger]

Disliked President Bush, REALLY dislike President Obama.

You REALLY disliked him before he ever stepped foot in office.