Politics Has Trump been shot?

[beast blazer]

I don't want to turn this thread into a Trump debate. I'd say his administration was much less "radical" than his words. Journalist like Michael Tracy point out how his administration was mostly maintaining a status quo. He was much more bark that bite.

But the fact that the deep state had their guns pointed at him from the start is undeniable. Which I believe is due to the fact that he threatened them (drain the swamp), and they see him as a threat, due to being a loose cannon.

How else do you explain how the escalating media assassination--->lawfare--->real assassination attempt. Of course, I know many here see those things in a different light, but I can only interpret them as hatred for Trump. The actions speak very loudly.

 

[Everything Beagle]

I've heard some wild takes, but describing Trump as a "peace maker" is one of the wildest. Another wild thing is to take Trump at his word that he would end the war in Ukraine, as if he has the ability or motivation to do so. It's campaign rhetoric on par with "the deal of the century" that was supposed to solve Palestine-Israel.

It takes a small amount of critical thinking to see past his carnival barking. I don't understand why so many people believe him.

We joked about Obama giving himself the Nobel Peace Prize back in ‘09 but Trump actually would lol

 

[Chris Craig]

I don't want to turn this thread into a Trump debate. I'd say his administration was much less "radical" than his words. Journalist like Michael Tracy point out how his administration was mostly maintaining a status quo. He was much more bark that bite.

But the fact that the deep state had their guns pointed at him from the start is undeniable. Which I believe is due to the fact that he threatened them (drain the swamp), and they see him as a threat, due to being a loose cannon.

How else do you explain how the escalating media assassination--->lawfare--->real assassination attempt. Of course, I know many here see those things in a different light, but I can only interpret them as hatred for Trump. The actions speak very loudly.

There were a few people in his administration that thank goodness were responsible and babysat his ass and told him no when he wanted to do stupid shit. This time he is surrounding himself with yes men who will do his bidding.

 

[bulls_with_booz]

There were a few people in his administration that thank goodness were responsible and babysat his ass and told him no when he wanted to do stupid shit. This time he is surrounding himself with yes men who will do his bidding.

I don't get that impression, honestly. I stay out of the Project 2025 stuff because I saw the right do the Agenda 2030 gimmick during the pandemic as a way to stir the base. If these names that are floating around like Larry Fink and the JPMorgan guy for Treasury Secretary are real considerations, that to me is a good indication that it's business as usual for the Republicans. I mean, Trump went from mass deportations as a part of his rhetoric to permanent residency for anyone who goes to community college. Nobody really talks about it but one of the reasons Trump stalled in 2020 and lost crucial support in key states is that the white people who voted for him to do crazy shit just stayed home.

And as an aside, the way people act like guardian angels prevented Trump from going nuts is not the full story. Trump himself hired idiots like John Bolton who begged him to go to war with Iran. Much of his presidency was infighting with these warhawks who wrote books post firing, seething that they couldn't get another hot war off the ground as they make up fan fiction where they prevented Trump from abolishing civil rights.

Trump will continue to sell out the country to the Rex Tillersons of the world, let the Likud party in Israel run wild in Gaza, and further embed the tech-MAGA contingency of Thiel, Musk, and Vance into the GOP. I don't buy into the fascist takeover stuff. That's election talk to get people out of the Burger King drive-thru and into a voting booth.

 

[jonnyboy]

There were a few people in his administration that thank goodness were responsible and babysat his ass and told him no when he wanted to do stupid shit. This time he is surrounding himself with yes men who will do his bidding.

I love this take, it’s the corporate media’s flagship piece of propaganda right now. Were all supposed to believe that Trump is the end of the world and end of democracy as we know it because of all the “things he’s gonna do if he’s allowed to be president”. The fun thing about this fear porn liberals beat off to is it completely hinges itself on the American public’s goldfish-like attention span where we completely forget things if they took place more than a year ago. In order to believe all these conspiracy theories and chicken little cries you guys verbally shit out, one would have to forget that Trump was already the president once, you all said the same fear mongering trash you are now, and absolutely none of it came to fruition.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I don't want to turn this thread into a Trump debate. I'd say his administration was much less "radical" than his words. Journalist like Michael Tracy point out how his administration was mostly maintaining a status quo. He was much more bark that bite.

lol Michael Tracy. A broken clock and all that.

Either way, the status quo IS funneling as much money to the military industrial complex and letting the CIA plot new and innovative ways to kill brown people to maintain our economic strangleholds. It's what we've always done, and Trump was certainly no different. Again, why would everyone who is benefiting want him gone?

But the fact that the deep state had their guns pointed at him from the start is undeniable. Which I believe is due to the fact that he threatened them (drain the swamp), and they see him as a threat, due to being a loose cannon.

Here are some actually serious questions: What is the deep state? What did he mean when he said "drain the swamp"?

How else do you explain how the escalating media assassination--->lawfare--->real assassination attempt. Of course, I know many here see those things in a different light, but I can only interpret them as hatred for Trump. The actions speak very loudly.

This only makes sense if you think "the deep state" means "anyone not in the MAGA cult". If the whole media ecosystem, government and justice system were filled with Trump loyalists, then none of this would be happening! It must be that it's a conspiracy everyone hates my special big boy president for no good reason.

The media assassination is easy: Trump is a very weird dude who is also a loudmouth blowhard and is often dead wrong about things he speaks very confidently about. Doesn't matter who you are, when you see a person like that, you make fun of him. But, when that loudmouth blowhard is also the head of a very popular ultra-conservative nationalist political movement with very real consequences on the line, then people tend to take it a little more seriously. As they should.

The lawfare is simple. He broke some laws. The fact that conservatives think the justice system applying to them just like everyone else is akin to warfare is pretty telling.

The real assassination attempt: who knows at this point? I wouldn't be surprised if the kid acted alone, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were other folks involved. It's just insane to think the CIA and those who profit from war would have anything to do with it, imho.

 

[beast blazer]

Major new video dropped. Wow. The guy was filming right in front of the building Crooks was on. You can see cops, with guns drawn, surrounding the building well before any shots rang out.

 

[MickZagger]

It’s crazy how a former president and current candidate was nearly assassinated and supposedly grazed by a bullet and its now a non story.

Like we’re going to go back in time a few years from now and people will be like ‘oh yeah’ I vaguely remember that.

 

[Phatguysrule]

It’s crazy how a former president and current candidate was nearly assassinated and supposedly grazed by a bullet and its now a non story.

Like we’re going to go back in time a few years from now and people will be like ‘oh yeah’ I vaguely remember that.

Nobody outside of his cult cares about Trump. Like, I don't think most people want him killed... But meh. He's probably got it coming.

*Edit* They only care about the next crazy thing he does

 

[Road Ratt]

It’s crazy how a former president and current candidate was nearly assassinated and supposedly grazed by a bullet and its now a non story.

Like we’re going to go back in time a few years from now and people will be like ‘oh yeah’ I vaguely remember that.

Trump didn't even spend a night in a hospital. We didn't get to "miss" him for a few days while he recuperated from a gunshot wound, like Ronald Reagan. I'd give his shooting a -1/2 star rating.

I am sure we would all still be talking about it more now, had the shooter succeeded.

 

[oldfisherman]

It’s crazy how a former president and current candidate was nearly assassinated and supposedly grazed by a bullet and its now a non story.

Like we’re going to go back in time a few years from now and people will be like ‘oh yeah’ I vaguely remember that.

I believe part of the reason has to do with the lack of information being released.

There are two big questions about this shooting. Was there more than one shooter? Did the shooter have help?

Enough info has been released to create a beleivable story there was only one shooter. IF, the info is true and not created to cover something up. Part of me does not trust the info released, and the govt agencys releasing it.

As far as did the shooter have help? There was a leak about the shooters cell phone locations days prior to the shooting. IF the leak is true. It places the shooter within 1 block of FBI buildings, in two cities. Both times for a prolonged period of time. Which suggests the shooter met with someone.

If the shooter did have inside help. We will never know the real truth.

Why did the shooter's behavior suggest he was going to get away with shooting a former president? Lots of un-answered questions.

 

[MickZagger]

I believe part of the reason has to do with the lack of information being released.

There are two big questions about this shooting. Was there more than one shooter? Did the shooter have help?

Enough info has been released to create a beleivable story there was only one shooter. IF, the info is true and not created to cover something up. Part of me does not trust the info released, and the govt agencys releasing it.

As far as did the shooter have help? There was a leak about the shooters cell phone locations days prior to the shooting. IF the leak is true. It places the shooter within 1 block of FBI buildings, in two cities. Both times for a prolonged period of time. Which suggests the shooter met with someone.

If the shooter did have inside help. We will never know the real truth.

Why did the shooter's behavior suggest he was going to get away with shooting a former president? Lots of un-answered questions.

Also, why does his ear look like nothing happened and he was golfing the next day without a bandage.

So many unanswered questions

 

[barfo]

Also, why does his ear look like nothing happened and he was golfing the next day without a bandage.

So many unanswered questions

Also, what's for dinner tonight?

So many questions. I demand answers.

barfo

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You'd have to explain what that means first.

"are you calling me fat, boy!?"

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do.
And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'"
(RIP Bob Newhart.)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nald-trump-ear-bandage-shooting-b2586901.html

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I'll say this: Trump's ear is a lot less scary than his father's:

 

[Everything Beagle]

I'll say this: Trump's ear is a lot less scary than his father's:

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Holy shit he looks like a Doom boss.

 

[MickZagger]

Also, what's for dinner tonight?

So many questions. I demand answers.

barfo

Chicken pot pie, big daddy

 

[riverman]

I'll say this: Trump's ear is a lot less scary than his father's:

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This evil fuck financed and organized a Nazi rally in Manhattan at Madison Square Garden in the late 30s....around 1938....there's never been a worse slum lord or bigger racist than Fred Trump and you can trace his Nazi allegiances right back to prewar days. People forget how popular the Nazi party was with a large segment of our population before we sided with England and France. He was Donald's hero and mentor so for MAGA fools to think Nazi tags are inappropriate to assign to Trump, they are actually deep rooted in his father's resume.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

This evil fuck financed and organized a Nazi rally in Manhattan at Madison Square Garden in the late 30s....around 1938....there's never been a worse slum lord or bigger racist than Fred Trump and you can trace his Nazi allegiances right back to prewar days. People forget how popular the Nazi party was with a large segment of our population before we sided with England and France. He was Donald's hero and mentor so for MAGA fools to think Nazi tags are inappropriate to assign to Trump, they are actually deep rooted in his father's resume.

He got his own Woodie Guthrie song!

 

[Phatguysrule]

This evil fuck financed and organized a Nazi rally in Manhattan at Madison Square Garden in the late 30s....around 1938....there's never been a worse slum lord or bigger racist than Fred Trump and you can trace his Nazi allegiances right back to prewar days. People forget how popular the Nazi party was with a large segment of our population before we sided with England and France. He was Donald's hero and mentor so for MAGA fools to think Nazi tags are inappropriate to assign to Trump, they are actually deep rooted in his father's resume.

And those are the same ideals the current Republican party is built upon.

 

[bulls_with_booz]

Hard to believe that the shooter was...11? 12? Back in 2016. I've read that he was a registered Republican, but it's worth noting that half of the photos going around of the shooter are of a lookalike on Twitter named, and I'm not kidding, "jewgazing"

Not much to go on, but my guess is that if he was 20, registered Republican, and hates Trump, I doubt it was because he loved Jeb Bush as a kid, or wanted DeSantis to be the nominee. I would lean towards him being motivated by commentators around his age like Nick Fuentes saying Trump is controlled by Jews.

Called it. They've apparently found posts made by Crooks that are extremist and antisemitic in nature. I understand the impulse to call Trump a Nazi, but that's missing the shot with actual Nazis. They believe he is 100% controlled by Israel, especially the zoomers who follow commentators like Fuentes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mp-assassination-attempt-hearing/74600759007/

"Some of these comments, if ultimately attributable to the shooter, appear to reflect anti-Semitic and anti-immigration themes, to espouse political violence, and are described as extreme in nature," Abbate said during his opening remarks.

Later, Abbate committed to Sen. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, that he would let the public and senators know if and when the FBI confirms the posts came from Crooks.

 

[ehizzy3]

Sounds like someone motivated by the hateful rhetoric from the far right. No wonder we don’t hear much about the shooter anymore

 

[bulls_with_booz]

Sounds like someone motivated by the hateful rhetoric from the far right. No wonder we don’t hear much about the shooter anymore

I think it's partially due to all the competing narratives drowning each other out. In that same article, the owner of Gab claims that he has proof that Crooks had an account on the website, the FBI hasn't ruled it out either. The dust hasn't cleared yet.

 

[jonnyboy]

there's never been a worse slum lord or bigger racist than Fred Trump

Give Blackrock some time…

 

[crandc]

Problem, too many Congressional Republicans more interested in a sound bite to play on right wing media than in getting the facts. We need a serious and transparent investigation.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Give Blackrock some time…

Same thing.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Called it. They've apparently found posts made by Crooks that are extremist and antisemitic in nature. I understand the impulse to call Trump a Nazi, but that's missing the shot with actual Nazis. They believe he is 100% controlled by Israel, especially the zoomers who follow commentators like Fuentes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mp-assassination-attempt-hearing/74600759007/

"Some of these comments, if ultimately attributable to the shooter, appear to reflect anti-Semitic and anti-immigration themes, to espouse political violence, and are described as extreme in nature," Abbate said during his opening remarks.

Later, Abbate committed to Sen. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, that he would let the public and senators know if and when the FBI confirms the posts came from Crooks.

That's not possible. Somebody in this very forum was just telling me how much more violent the left is than the right...

 

[Everything Beagle]

Sounds like someone motivated by the hateful rhetoric from the far right. No wonder we don’t hear much about the shooter anymore

I mean, we all know the shooting was only ever seen as a politicially expedient promotional opportunity right? It’s just there’s no juice left to squeeze since trump wasn’t actually hit and the shooter was one of the fascists he emboldens and empowers.