Hateful anti-gay laws passed in Russia

[KingSpeed]

You don't understand. Apparently the Gay gang believe they can shame the Russians into going against the teachings of the Russian Orthodox Church by boycotting the Olympic games.
Don't you see how logical this view is?

You think that it's good to arrest people for being supportive of gay people? You think children should be ripped from their homes if there is a possibility that one of the parents is gay?

 

[KingSpeed]

Let's see, do I have this right? The Russians don't want Gay marriage, so they are evil. Gay's will now push for boycotting the Olympics because they back their Orthodox church?
Is this a correct reading? Do you really expect them to go against their church?

No, that is wrong. They want to arrest people for being gay or even being associated with people that are gay. They want to rip children from their homes if one of the parents is gay.

 

[KingSpeed]

It's one thing for a church to be against homosexuality. It's another to arrest people for being gay.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Nope, that is a good answer. I understand you were joking before, but I had no way to telling it from your comment.

Thank you.

 

[Natebishop3]

You think that it's good to arrest people for being supportive of gay people? You think children should be ripped from their homes if there is a possibility that one of the parents is gay?

That's not the point Eric. I don't think boycotting the Olympics and punishing the hard work of all our athletes (some of whom are gay) will accomplish anything. Why would boycotting a sporting event change Russian politics?

 

[jlprk]

Whatever. It's a crime against humanity.

You're old enough to remember the past-- that it takes 30-40 years of government propaganda to change the population. The Phil Donahue show was used for a decade for the initial attitude loosening-up. Until then, the U.S. was the same as the rest of the world still is. Only the U.S. and Europe have changed their internal policies.

 

[KingSpeed]

Some of the Olympic athletes ARE gay, natebishop. By law, they could arrest the gay athletes. They could arrest the coaches for helping them. This is not cool. We can't support Russia in this.

 

[magnifier661]

Some of the Olympic athletes ARE gay, natebishop. By law, they could arrest the gay athletes. They could arrest the coaches for helping them. This is not cool. We can't support Russia in this.

And they can't marry each other either. Crazy Russia! Knew we should have bombed them!

 

[KingSpeed]

That's not the point Eric. I don't think boycotting the Olympics and punishing the hard work of all our athletes (some of whom are gay) will accomplish anything. Why would boycotting a sporting event change Russian politics?

We can threaten to pull out if the laws aren't changed. We can't pour money into their community if they are going to have laws like this. Yes, the athletes have worked hard but this is bigger than them. Besides, they could be arrested when they get there anyway.

 

[KingSpeed]

Nate- why isn't maxiep suspended?

 

[magnifier661]

Wow I can't believe he passed a law that even gay tourists or people supporting gays can be arrested?! What do they do with them after arrest?

 

[MarAzul]

It's one thing for a church to be against homosexuality. It's another to arrest people for being gay.

Is it "being Gay" to boycott the Olympics because the Russian follow the teachings of their church?

 

[MarAzul]

Wow I can't believe he passed a law that even gay tourists or people supporting gays can be arrested?! What do they do with them after arrest?

Return to sender, I imagine But how will they know? Do you think they will go after those with signs "Gay Marriage Fuck the Church!":MARIS61:

 

[crandc]

I realize that knowing what one is talking about is harder than just talking but I would suggest MarAzul actually read the items referenced, if he is capable of reading comprehension.
Here is the law, capsulized:
Anyone speaking in support of civil rights for LGBT people get 10 years imprisonment.
Anyone speaking against this law is imprisoned.
Anyone who is gay is imprisoned.
Gay people are attacked in the streets while police stand by and/or help the assailants.
No child can be adopted by citizens of any country that allows marriage equality, even if they are a straight couple.
Gay people lose their own children.

Russia has no official state religion.
KS, what did I miss that maxie said?

 

[Natebishop3]

Some of the Olympic athletes ARE gay, natebishop. By law, they could arrest the gay athletes. They could arrest the coaches for helping them. This is not cool. We can't support Russia in this.

Well, then the entire Olympic committee should cancel the Olympics or move it, because I would guess a large portion of the athletes could be arrested.

 

[crandc]

There is debate over Olympic boycott. It's unlikely the games will be moved; some feel athletes should participate and on the medal stand take a public position. Like in 1968. It's a tough call because for many athletes this will be their only Olympics, they trained their whole lives for it, and they are not responsible for the hate law.

 

[MarAzul]

I realize that knowing what one is talking about is harder than just talking but I would suggest MarAzul actually read the items referenced, if he is capable of reading comprehension.
Here is the law, capsulized:
Anyone speaking in support of civil rights for LGBT people get 10 years imprisonment.
Anyone speaking against this law is imprisoned.
Anyone who is gay is imprisoned.
Gay people are attacked in the streets while police stand by and/or help the assailants.
No child can be adopted by citizens of any country that allows marriage equality, even if they are a straight couple.
Gay people lose their own children.

Russia has no official state religion.
KS, what did I miss that maxie said?

My dear Lady, There is no Church of the United States and probably will not be in the near future.
However, there has been a Russian Orthodox Church for about 900 years. No it is not run by the state, they have an Archbishop and over 80 percent of the Russian people follow this Church.
Do you know what this Churches position on Gay Marriage is? Do you expect Putin to tell the people to ignore the Church? Didn't they throw out the last fellow that told them to ignore the Church? Well that was in the days of the USSR, but the Church has returned, perhaps you didn't know. Perhaps boycotting the games is a wise decision in your case.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I love it when "christians" parrot the views of radical Islam.

Anybody who can't grasp the difference between "living your faith" and "forcing your faith on others" isn't worth trying to reason with.

 

[Denny Crane]

You don't understand. Apparently the Gay gang believe they can shame the Russians into going against the teachings of the Russian Orthodox Church by boycotting the Olympic games.
Don't you see how logical this view is?

You mean gay people are forcing those straight religious people to be gay?

SMH

 

[MarAzul]

You mean gay people are forcing those straight religious people to be gay?

SMH

Of Course not, they are just a noisy minority. If the Russian did indeed pass these laws, most of them would be wise to boycott the games, don't you agree?
But I doubt that will cause Putin and gang to go against the Russian church.

 

[MarAzul]

I love it when "christians" parrot the views of radical Islam.

Anybody who can't grasp the difference between "living your faith" and "forcing your faith on others" isn't worth trying to reason with.

Actually Islam pick up the same teachings from the Christians. They came along about 600 years later and consider Jesus a prophet you know but that is hardly radical.

 

[Further]

Marazul, some of the American athletes will be arrested if they go. Think about if Russia said Blacks would be arrested, and anyone who trained blacks. Should just the white Americans go and compete and leave he Blacks in the states? No, we are all American. Regardless if its religious, fascist, communist or what, if some Americans who qualify can't compete without being arrested or being Black, that would be atrocious. Well, some americans are being discriminated against. Screw that, we are all American and we should stand together and either move the games or boycott.

 

[crandc]

I am not your fucking dear lady, MarAzul.

 

[magnifier661]

They have something similar in Jamaica.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Jamaica

 

[Further]

They have something similar in Jamaica.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Jamaica

As much as I don't like it, that's each countries right. They can make their own laws. But when those laws infringe on our citizens we must do what we can to stop it. So, our athletes can't if they are gay, America must stick together and say fuck that, either we all compete or none of us do.

 

[magnifier661]

As much as I don't like it, that's each countries right. They can make their own laws. But when those laws infringe on our citizens we must do what we can to stop it. So, our athletes can't if they are gay, America must stick together and say fuck that, either we all compete or none of us do.

I agree. And at least Jamaica got it right. They allow girl on girl. That's hot!!!

 

[Further]

I agree. And at least Jamaica got it right. They allow girl on girl. That's hot!!!

Truth time. I always had that typical male fantasy of being with two women at once. Then, I had been dating this woman for almost two years and I was in love. She came home and asked if I wanted to have a three way with another woman we were friends with, a hottie too. Up until that moment I was certain that was what I wanted. But when it actually happened I got so incredibly jealous I was seeing red. I realized then, I am not built for anything other than a very average one woman and one man relationship. I'm happy for everyone to choose what works for them, but for me, I just want one woman to love and fuck silly. That's just me.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i like tag teaming girls with other men

 

[PapaG]

Who will be the gay Jesse Owens?

Nobody is going to boycott the Olympics.

 

[Further]

Who will be the gay Jesse Owens?

Nobody is going to boycott the Olympics.

Likely not, but Russia does need to say that no athletes will be arrested for being gay. If not, then I think the Boycott needs to happen. I can't see Putin not assuring that gay athletes will be permitted to compete in safety. If not, it's just like going to compete without Black Americans.