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According to Worldometers, there are currently over 904, 077 active cases in the US.
 
I got it for the first time (well first positive test) on Thursday. I’m doing fine now about to go camping until Sunday. My biggest symptoms were vomiting the first day and a very very stiff neck for like 4 days. Vaccinated with Pfizer and boosted once with moderna, but I will be getting a booster this winter
 
jonnyboy said:
Decimal percentages in the tenths and hundredths of zero are as good as zero to me. You are using technicalities to make a weak point.
Also, you’re engaging in a discussion with a forum full of vaccinated people who’ve had Covid. The effectiveness of the vaccine in reducing symptoms is up for debate but the idea it prevents infection or transmission isn’t really being touted anymore.
We took Covid tests to determine we were positive.
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The problem is that tenths and hundredths of a percent overwhelm our hospitals and put us all at far greater risk.

It's a big problem.
 
THE HCP said:
Were you one of those people who actually thought the vaccine kept you from getting it? Or actually thought people who got the vaccine thought that? I can’t believe I’m asking somebody this after everything we went thru.
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I can’t believe you’re asking it either. Do you know what site you’re on right now? Do you see the things people post here? We were told these things repeatedly from every authority with a platform. The president himself said it, along with other politicians. The literal mechanism for shaming and attacking anyone who questioned the vaccine was those exact reasonings you listed. You’re going to pretend none of this happened or those claims weren’t made? Short term memories bro.
 
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jonnyboy said:
I can’t believe you’re asking it either. Do you know what site you’re on right now? Do you see the things people post here? We were told these things repeatedly from every authority with a platform. The president himself said it, along with other politicians. The literal mechanism for shaming and attacking anyone who questioned the vaccine was those exact reasonings you listed. You’re going to pretend none of this happened or those claims weren’t made. Short term memories bro.
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Yes, but unfortunately for you, those same people can also see the things that you post as well.
 
Phatguysrule said:
The problem is that tenths and hundredths of a percent overwhelm our hospitals and put us all at far greater risk.

It's a big problem.
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This isn’t true. Those aren’t the age groups that required hospitalization. Not in any actual way. We live in a society where people go to the hospital for every sneeze or stubbed toe already. When you have a media telling the entire country they are are going to die if they catch Covid, you are going to have droves of people showing up at hospitals that don’t need to be there. There has been no culpability for the fear campaign that took place.
 
THE HCP said:
Last week of February 2020, flying from Miami to Toronto…..5 feet away from me Gary Trent Jr. And CJ McCollum are sneezing and coughing the whole time. (When a player gets sick, protocol is to move them away from the other players and back with us)
I woke up the next day sicker than I’ve been in YEARS! They sent me to the team doctors and gave me a mask. Tested positive for Influenza 2. Sick for a week and then back at it.
So when COVID broke out, a few months later they brought us in to get a blood test to see if we had ever got it and I swore I had, they said nope. I think that’s what confused me the most. All of the symptoms sound like a really bad flu.
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Yes. Same story with basically our whole basketball program (many who got tested, and all who were tested had the flu, even though some of the conservatives swear the test was wrong) as well as most of my shop (who were not tested).

Everyone was sure they'd already had it in February and would be immune. No vaccines, no masks, etc... very conservative group. Afterall, nobody they knew had died...

Then a few months after vaccines were available and most hadn't been vaccinated it swept through our shop.

Kept several people out for months, sent many to the hospital, and killed the owner's 30-some year old son. He was a good guy. But adamantly believed the "COVID Hoax" conspiracy.

I miss him. His young wife and 3 year old son miss him more.

I hate anti-science and anti-expertise propaganda.
 
jonnyboy said:
You don’t say anything of substance ever. You don’t even try. Just block me or something.
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Of course I do, I as well as others have countered pretty much everything you've said in the thread. Pretty much par for the course, you show up, say something outlandish, countered at every turn...then you simply disappear for a while, the reappear and repeat the same thing over and over.
 
jonnyboy said:
This isn’t true. Those aren’t the age groups that required hospitalization. Not in any actual way. We live in a society where people go to the hospital for every sneeze or stubbed toe already. When you have a media telling the entire country they are are going to die if they catch Covid, you are going to have droves of people showing up at hospitals that don’t need to be there. There has been no culpability for the fear campaign that took place.
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Again you're not making sense and still exaggerating grossly...and you discount Fox news and the Trump fanatics who refused to accept the science and refused to get vaccinated...and then proceeded to die, why is that?
 
yankeesince59 said:
Of course I do, I as well as others have countered pretty much everything you've said in the thread.
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It’s good of you to give credit to those here who are trying to have meaningful conversations. Grouping yourself in with them is a stretch.
yankeesince59 said:
...then you simply disappear for a while,
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I as well as others, like Bill Gates and stuff, have extremely important philanthropic duties and can’t just play around on here all the time.
 
jonnyboy said:
This isn’t true. Those aren’t the age groups that required hospitalization. Not in any actual way. We live in a society where people go to the hospital for every sneeze or stubbed toe already. When you have a media telling the entire country they are are going to die if they catch Covid, you are going to have droves of people showing up at hospitals that don’t need to be there. There has been no culpability for the fear campaign that took place.
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Here in the US we don't get enough care. Our hospitals were not overwhelmed by fit and healthy people.

That's simply not a problem we've had

But having a worse case that lasts longer increases the odds of somebody passing it on to a more susceptible person. Do that a couple hundred thousand times and you have a HUGE problem.

There are 73 million Americans under the age of 19. .04% of those is 292,000 people. And if they each infect a couple people, who also infect a couple people... A lot of people in those more vulnerable age groups are going to be in serious trouble.

“Vaccinated people can become infected with COVID-19 and spread it to others. However, a 2023 study found that vaccinated people were significantly less likely to transmit the virus,” said Brian Laird, PharmD, a manager in Pharmacy Operations at OSF HealthCare.
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https://www.osfhealthcare.org/blog/...nfected,Pharmacy Operations at OSF HealthCare.
 
jonnyboy said:
It’s good of you to give credit to those here who are trying to have meaningful conversations. Grouping yourself in with them is a stretch.

I as well as others, like Bill Gates and stuff, have extremely important philanthropic duties and can’t just play around on here all the time.
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That's not true, and you know it...I've asked you multiple times to document/support the claims you've made but you either can't or won't.

Did you by chance also go to Wharton College? Sorry, but just saying something without facts does not by default make it true,... the onus is on you.

And "philanthropic duties"?...I find that extremely hard to believe. And don't look now, but you're "grouping yourself in with Bill Gates"?...that's "a stretch".




...I gotta go.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Bill Gates is simply a funding mechanism. Same as Elon Musk.

They aren't expert professionals, IMO. When their considerable influence supports things actual expert professionals think need supported I appreciate them. SpaceX, nuclear energy development, vaccination, etc...

When they make selfish moves that hurt the greater good like Twitter/X or the funding used as leverage that has screwed up many schools I don't appreciate them.

Expert professionals are certified as such and bring forth actual data with the only real motivation being the use of said data to make better choices moving forward. Regardless of which direction that data supports.
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Bill Gates doesn't get a lot of respect and I completely understand why. Most every product Microsoft ever made sucks.

That said, he knows way the fuck more than most of us about communicable diseases. He's a layperson, sure, but he's a very well educated (and I don't mean his one year at Harvard) layperson. He's spent a lot of years talking to experts in the field.

Elon Musk doesn't get a lot of respect and I completely understand why. He's a useless amoral douchebag.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Bill Gates doesn't get a lot of respect and I completely understand why. Most every product Microsoft ever made sucks.

That said, he knows way the fuck more than most of us about communicable diseases. He's a layperson, sure, but he's a very well educated (and I don't mean his one year at Harvard) layperson. He's spent a lot of years talking to experts in the field.

Elon Musk doesn't get a lot of respect and I completely understand why. He's a useless amoral douchebag.

barfo
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I think they both know far more than the average layperson about the things they are passionate about. But I don't trust either of them as much on these issues as I would a real scientist.

Musk has done some incredible things for humanity as well. Things that wouldn't have happened nearly as quickly without his influence.

But yeah, everything you said about him is true. And Bill Gates has his skeletons as well. He's just more personal about it
 
F' Elon Musk...he initially pulled me in with Tesla and Space X, then quickly pushed me away, first with Starlink and then Twitter/X.

 
yankeesince59 said:
F' Elon Musk...he initially pulled me in with Tesla and Space X, then quickly pushed me away, first with Starlink and then Twitter/X.
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Starlink is the best satellite Internet in the world... By a wide margin. To the point that whole countries rely on it for their national defense.

Dude has some issues, but his contributions honestly can't be overstated. He's absolutely changed the world for the better.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Starlink is the best satellite Internet in the world... By a wide margin. To the point that whole countries rely on it for their national defense.
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Which may turn out very badly for them, depending on Elon's whims at any given moment.

Dude has some issues, but his contributions honestly can't be overstated. He's absolutely changed the world for the better.
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The story isn't over, and it's entirely possible he'll end up a net negative, given his current trajectory.

barfo
 
Pretty sure I said this earlier, but just in case, F' Ealon Musk....and F' Starlink too. He intially promised 300 mbps but that's very misleading because the ONLY way you can get that kind of speed is via an ethernet cable (who the hell still uses an ethernet cable?)...Starlink wifi only delivers about 90-100 mbps...then he arbitrarily raised the price twice within my first 6 months.

I'm now getting 800-900 mbps for $30 less per month.....oh, did I already mention?............F' Elon Musk.
 
barfo said:
Which may turn out very badly for them, depending on Elon's whims at any given moment.
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Very doubtful. Once the money started flowing from the US to Ukraine Elon just wanted his piece of the action. Elon isn't going to give the US cause to take over Starlink. If he does, the US will just take it over.

Elon also wanted plausible deniability so he wasn't targeted by Russia as choosing Ukraine over Russia. They now have an agreement that the US can take control of the network in that region for military purposes. I'm sure Elon is getting his piece of the "action" now.


barfo said:
The story isn't over, and it's entirely possible he'll end up a net negative, given his current trajectory.

barfo
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Also very unlikely, IMO. He made electric cars desirable (by bringing together motivated geniuses so he could stand on their shoulders), when the government was being controlled by big oil and Detroit.

He also basically made the space economy realistic (again, standing on the shoulders of geniuses to do so, but it never would have happened close to this fast without somebody like him making it possible and pushing for it) also while our government was failing us, also largely due to the influence of large corporations.

He made broadband satellite internet (world wide, and even interplanetary) a legitimate business model. While again, our government was bogged down by the concerns and inadequacies of large corporations.

His actions have had an immediate impact on lowering the price of lithium batteries, not to mention with ramping up the incentive to come up with newer, better, cheaper and cleaner battery technologies.

And there are honestly quite a lot more...

He would have to be the central cause of a massive war or mass killing of some kind. Something along the lines of a Stalin or Hitler to overcome the massive benefit he has been to humanity. And I just don't think he has the power to cause that much damage.

I'm not a fan of Elon's, but I try to give credit where it's due. He's made some MASSIVE contributions to society (albeit, by standing on the shoulders of geniuses).

And he's made an absolute mess of Twitter... Which really doesn't matter. It will be replaced by something better, no doubt.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Pretty sure I said this earlier, but just in case, F' Ealon Musk....and F' Starlink too. He intially promised 300 mbps but that's very misleading because the ONLY way you can get that kind of speed is via an ethernet cable (who the hell still uses an ethernet cable?)...Starlink wifi only delivers about 90-100 mbps...then he arbitrarily raised the price twice within my first 6 months.

I'm now getting 800-900 mbps for $30 less per month.....oh, did I already mention?............F' Elon Musk.
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Every PC in my house is connected to an ethernet cable. It's a far more stable and reliable connection.

He promised 300mbps and he delivered on it if you can get that via an ethernet cable. It's satellite internet. It's 100 times better than any other satellite internet option. And FAR more reliable. If you have access to a broadband connection for $30 per month then Starlink was never intended for you. And Elon Musk said as much many times.

It's important that we have realistic expectations...
 
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Desktop computers are about the only ones with ethernet ports and their numbers have been shrinking for years...and even fewer laptops even come with ethernet ports anymore, same with tablets and wifi gives me a MUCH better cell phone signal than verizon's tower signal.

Learn to read...I never claimed to be getting internet service for $30.

...one more time, F' Elon Musk.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Every PC in my house is connected to an ethernet cable. It's a far more stable and reliable connection.

He promised 300mbps and he delivered on it if you can get that via an ethernet cable. It's satellite internet. It's 100 times better than any other satellite internet option. And FAR more reliable. If you have access to a broadband connection for $30 per month then Starlink was never intended for you. And Elon Musk said as much many times.

It's important that we have realistic expectations...
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Being used in Maui & Ukraine for comms.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Desktop computers are about the only ones with ethernet ports and their numbers have been shrinking for years...and even fewer laptops even come with ethernet ports anymore, same with tablets and wifi gives me a MUCH better cell phone signal than verizon's tower signal.

...one more time, F' Elon Musk.
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Virtually every laptop that doesn't have an Ethernet port can use a USB to Ethernet adapter.

You can be mad at Musk for not delivering something he specifically said he wouldn't deliver if you want. But, the people he was actually targeting are extremely happy and grateful.

There is plenty to be pissed off at Musk for. This one is just a misunderstanding on your part.
 
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