Hawks vs Nets...

[kobimel]

Sorry, I didn't know the game was this early. Anyway, we just lost to TYRONE LUE!!!

 

[Fitch4Delk00]

Yea, I was just about to make a thread, another tough loss we cant by a break. We were playing well as a team the whole game, the only thing that killed us were there offensive rebounds and Johnson is the second half. Not much else to say other than maybe tomorrow night

 

[NJNetz]

Oh crapppp!!!

I forgot that the game was on this early. How do we lose to the Hawks?

Well here are the stats.
13 pts 5 rebs 11 asts
Carter 27 pts 7 rebs 8 asts
Moore 13 pts 7 rebs
Nachbar 11 pts
Williams 18 pts 4 rebs
Source

I'm just going to watch the highlights.

 

[Legacy]

I didn't know the game was this early. Sucks for me on the west coast.

From the boxscore I could tell that we played well, but Joe Johnson murdered us. Once again, we cant gain respect losing to teams like this.

 

[Fitch4Delk00]

^ I watched the game, we played well in the first half vince and kidd had 11 assists combined, even though we were shooting at a higher percent and Johnson was held in check. Then the second half came and Johnson lit us up even though we were still playing well. At the end of the 4th williams hit a layup to tie it and smith missed a 3 overtime. We got off to a hot start but Johnson answered with a 3 along with smith hitting alot of close shots and getting offensive rebounds. Were down one lue comes off the bench hits a 2, Vince comes back which looked like a block but they call a foul he hits both. Inbounds looked like wright knocked it off lue they maintain possesion, so we foul lue he hits both. Frank draws up a nice play where kid takes the ball moore with a nice screen, kidd with a pass straight to Carter in motion nails it to tie it up. Timeout, dont know if it was drawn up but lue comes out nails it game over.

We played well and shoulda won but the rebounding was awful on our part.

 

[P.A.P.]

How was the defense on Lue in the final possession? Was he left open?

 

[Next Level Game]

This team...
just..
can't....
close out...

 

[thedude9990]

i saw the last two possessions, carter hit a 3 to tie it up (by a great screen from moore) then LAWRENCE FRANK THE DUMBASS leaves eddie house in the game and tyronne lue was in a iso with him made eddie like slip and shot the jumper

 

[hustler]

Wow, did you see how Josh Smith reacted after he missed that 3 pointer? A team mate was patting him on the back encouraging him but he pushed him away. Wow.

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">LAWRENCE FRANK THE DUMBASS leaves eddie house in the game and tyronne lue was in a iso with him made eddie like slip and shot the jumper</div>

Actually Wright was guarding him. I don't think House was even in the game at that point.


I just watched the highlights, and all I have to say is sad loss.

 

[AMS_ICE]

Frank has done enough. It's time for him to pack his bags. I don't understand what the big boys are waiting for. Take Frank out.

 

[Fitch4Delk00]

He actually coached well this game, it was just a tough loss, played great by both teams.

 

[AMS_ICE]

Like I said before, Frank has done well since replacing Scott. But I think he has nothing left. It's time to say thanks to Frank and move on.

 

[Next Level Game]

<div class="quote_poster">fitch4delk00 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He actually coached well this game, it was just a tough loss, played great by both teams.</div>

Well coached games aren't lost to the Hawks.

 

[Fitch4Delk00]

^ did you watch the game, if so then you know it was a low scoring game, and there was great defense. the coach can only do so much they cant go out there and rebound or score, you all blame Frank but he hasnt done a bad job. Frank doesnt have many players to go to Vince can only do so much and Kidd is more of a playmaker than a scorer, even though he has scored more lately. Whos our next scoring option Moore, if hes scoring then hes not rebounding because he doesnt have great low post moves. He has a nice little jumpshot and cuts well, The only thing I see frnak doing wrong is playing C-Rob so many minutes over Adams and Boone.

 

[Next Level Game]

<div class="quote_poster">fitch4delk00 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^ did you watch the game, if so then you know it was a low scoring game, and there was great defense. the coach can only do so much they cant go out there and rebound or score, you all blame Frank but he hasnt done a bad job. Frank doesnt have many players to go to Vince can only do so much and Kidd is more of a playmaker than a scorer, even though he has scored more lately. Whos our next scoring option Moore, if hes scoring then hes not rebounding because he doesnt have great low post moves. He has a nice little jumpshot and cuts well, The only thing I see frnak doing wrong is playing C-Rob so many minutes over Adams and Boone.</div>

I saw the game. I saw how many broken up plays there was in which Jason Kidd had to pull something out to get a score. I saw a 18-28 team, 9-15 on the road get whatever they wanted from us. I saw them get the come from behind victory. Do I blame the players? Yeah they share the responsibility, but I blame the coaching strategy. The coverage on Joe Johnson was ridiculous with the switches and no consistency till the end. I saw a lot of iso plays for Vince Carter. It's as if Frank said to him, "Hey Vince, I cannot make you a play right now so get the ball and do what you want."

You don't lose to the Hawks if you want to make the playoffs. More importantly, you don't lose to the Hawks at HOME. Any well-coached game against the Hawks is a solid victory. They're just a bad team. Well-coached losses come against the elite teams like the Spurs, Dallas, Suns, etc.

I'm a big fan of players lose games as well, but in this case I think it was more coaching than the players. That 3 from Vince to tie in overtime...that was a broken up play. Frank would be stupid to draw up a play for Vince to take a 45degree angle three.


Frank's rotations are just too weird. One night a bench player gets 20 minutes the next night he gets barely none. The players aren't robots they need a regular routine. It hurts a players mindset if they think they're coach doesn't trust them.

This is the third year in a row this team has been up and down since Frank became coach. We were rather consitent when Scott was here, so I think it's telling me something.