OT Healthcare

[jonnyboy]

Tell that to my brother who only has healthcare because of Obamacare.

Or me, because I have a pre-existring condition but am able to get insurance and even shop for better rates.

"Show," my ass.

Instead of fixing the problem of overpriced healthcare, Obamacare just made it compulsory. It’s protection for the trillion dollar insurance industry that the writers of the bill all have their fingers in. A handful of people living in poverty received free healthcare, which is good for them and provides a few anecdotal feel good stories for PR, but it’s payed for by the working class having their rates go through the roof and having their taxes literally stolen if they don’t comply. And most of that money is funneled straight to the top. It’s a mafia racket by definition.

A couple anecdotal feel good stories don’t make Obamacare good or fair. It’s a literal scam. Obamacare is shit.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Instead of fixing the problem of overpriced healthcare, Obamacare just made it compulsory. It’s protection for the trillion dollar insurance industry that the writers of the bill all have their fingers in. A handful of people living in poverty received free healthcare, which is good for them and provides a few anecdotal feel good stories for PR, but it’s payed for by the working class having their rates go through the roof and having their taxes literally stolen if they don’t comply. And most of that money is funneled straight to the top. It’s a mafia racket by definition.

A couple anecdotal feel good stories don’t make Obamacare good or fair. It’s a literal scam. Obamacare is shit.

The fact that lifetime benefit limits are gone is not just a story. It is a fact. Obamacare is not shit.

 

[barfo]

The fact that lifetime benefit limits are gone is not just a story. It is a fact. Obamacare is not shit.

Preexisting conditions, too.

Just because it isn't perfect (it certainly isn't) doesn't make it shit. It's a major improvement over what was there before.

barfo

 

[crandc]

Would you like me to tell you about the workplace insurance that charged me more because I am a woman? Now illegal. About plans that covered every prescription except birth control? Also now illegal unless employer claims Jesus. ACA has problems but still an improvement. Now make it better.

 

[jonnyboy]

I'd much rather see full-on Medicare for all than an Oromneycare scheme designed around corporate profits.

 

[crandc]

I'd much rather see full-on Medicare for all than an Oromneycare scheme designed around corporate profits.

So would I. But I would rather see this than repeal and not replace.

 

[barfo]

I'd much rather see full-on Medicare for all than an Oromneycare scheme designed around corporate profits.

Yep. But some progress towards that goal is better than no progress.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

and reversely, if Republicans had come up with the same shitty plan, Democrats would be screaming bloody murder. The whole thing is a show. Obamacare was simply another bipartisan scheme to steal from the working class and most of the fighting about it is just bad faith actors pretending to defend a side.

It is shitty. No question about that. It's just a lot less shitty than what we had before.

 

[Phatguysrule]

The fact that lifetime benefit limits are gone is not just a story. It is a fact. Obamacare is not shit.

Oh yes, it most certainly is shit compared to what most other first world countries enjoy at a far lower cost to taxpayers.

It's a small step in the right direction, but it is still incredibly shitty.

 

[Lanny]

Instead of fixing the problem of overpriced healthcare, Obamacare just made it compulsory. It’s protection for the trillion dollar insurance industry that the writers of the bill all have their fingers in. A handful of people living in poverty received free healthcare, which is good for them and provides a few anecdotal feel good stories for PR, but it’s payed for by the working class having their rates go through the roof and having their taxes literally stolen if they don’t comply. And most of that money is funneled straight to the top. It’s a mafia racket by definition.

A couple anecdotal feel good stories don’t make Obamacare good or fair. It’s a literal scam. Obamacare is shit.

It really should be called Heritage Foundation Care because some people need to be reminded of that daily.