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After Dame pointed out the Nets (Because of Bridges) and the Heat (Because of Bam) where he would also enjoy playing, I have heard several pundits accepting quickly that those teams could put together good packages for Dame. Nobody follows that up with actual trade package ideas. I can kind of see how the Heat could put something together since they have many years of picks. I see nothing from the Nets.

Am I missing good trade ideas? If Dame decides it’s time to go, I want to send him somewhere he wants to be, but the Blazers still need to get back a superstar package. What’s are some legitimate Nets and Heat packages?
 
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After Dame pointed out the Nets (Because of Bridges) and the Heat (Because of Bam) where he would also enjoy playing, I have heard several pundits accepting quickly that those teams could put together good packages for Dame. Nobody follows that up with actual trade package ideas. I can kind of see how the Heat could put something together since they have many years of picks. I see nothing from the Nets.

Am I missing good trade ideas? If Dame decides it’s time to go, I want to send him somewhere he wants to be, but the Blazers still need to get back a superstar package. What’s are some legitimate Nets and Heat packages?
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I think if we made the decision on draft night then we could set up a trade that goes through when Dame can be traded but includes the rights to picks 21 and 22 from Brooklyn. I think we could get Brooklyn to take Nurk and give up Claxton and we would take back Simmons. They would probably also have to throw in some of the future Suns picks that they have.

I don't think Miami has a package to offer unless they got a third team involved.

I don't think any of this is going to be necessary because I think Joe will pull off trades that make this the best roster Dame has had.
 
Tylor Hero, Caleb Martin or Nikola Jovic, Duncan Robinson and this years and next years pick?
 
Hero and his Miami model wife would be so unhappy here.
 
Look what the Pels got for AD, better be in that range or tell him tough shit.
 
BKN has Cam Thomas, a bunch of future picks from the KD trade, the most efficient C in the league in Claxton... It still wouldn't be "fair" value for Dame, but they've got some stuff, I guess?

I'm of the same mind when it comes to Miami... Herro and future picks? 5 minutes before Dame made that comment the entire world would've laughed at that idea...
 
glazeduck said:
BKN has Cam Thomas, a bunch of future picks from the KD trade, the most efficient C in the league in Claxton... It still wouldn't be "fair" value for Dame, but they've got some stuff, I guess?

I'm of the same mind when it comes to Miami... Herro and future picks? 5 minutes before Dame made that comment the entire world would've laughed at that idea...
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Cam Thomas is a free agent, but yeah, I think Claxton would be a nice pickup. And they have a lot of picks.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Cam Thomas is a free agent, but yeah, I think Claxton would be a nice pickup. And they have a lot of picks.
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Good point on Thomas, I'd spaced that. Honestly for me, he'd be a big part of a package for Dame.

If we're literally talking about Claxton, filler and a bunch of meh picks, I'm a lot less interested...
 
glazeduck said:
Good point on Thomas, I'd spaced that. Honestly for me, he'd be a big part of a package for Dame.

If we're literally talking about Claxton, filler and a bunch of meh picks, I'm a lot less interested...
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The Phoenix picks could be really valuable. Durant is 34. That team isn't nearly good enough at this point to be a contender if Durant gets hurt or if he significantly drops off in the next couple years.
 
It has to be a volume trade back. I can't see us getting a superstar back. That doesn't make sense for the there team or Portland. Go young and hope the new Lillard we get with pick #3 works this time. That is on management like it was with the original Lillard.
 
I love Dame and he means a lot to this city and franchise. He earned his new contract from the BLAZERS. But I don't get why another team would give us a package like the one above from the Nets at his age and 217 million left on his contract.

He is not LBJ where good players will take less to play with him and the cupboard will be bare if the Nets offered that. (ok maybe not bare but nothing special) Dame would get crucified by the NY media by year two. I hope for his sake it does not happen.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I love Dame and he means a lot to this city and franchise. He earned his new contract from the BLAZERS. But I don't get why another team would give us a package like the one above from the Nets at his age and 217 million left on his contract.

He is not LBJ where good players will take less to play with him and the cupboard will be bare if the Nets offered that. (ok maybe not bare but nothing special) Dame would get crucified by the NY media by year two. I hope for his sake it does not happen.
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BRK, even after giving up a lot of their own picks, still have 7 1st round picks over the next 7 years. Player wise, it is Bridges/Claxton and not much else so it's not like they would be that much worse off. What very well could happen though, is that FA's come to NY to join up with Bridges/Dame right away and they could be a pretty interesting team.
 
Brooklyn has nothing outside Bridges/Claxton

Herro makes ZERO sense here with (hopefully) Scoot on board.

This is about to be messy - Dame is going to force his way out to a specific team and the return is going to be underwhelming.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Brooklyn has nothing outside Bridges/Claxton

Herro makes ZERO sense here with (hopefully) Scoot on board.

This is about to be messy - Dame is going to force his way out to a specific team and the return is going to be underwhelming.
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It will be underwhelming....but very well might be the correct thing to do. It's not like we haven't been underwhelming for the last 4 seasons when Dame was 29-32. I'm not sure what we can do in such a short amount of time to turn that around so quickly.

We still wouldn't be good, but we haven't been. Instead, we would have a lot of young talent, more future cap flexibility, and the 'potential' of better things to come. Perhaps or even likely, that none of those players would even equal Dame's individual numbers, but it wouldn't take that much to equal similar team results in the near future.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Brooklyn has nothing outside Bridges/Claxton

Herro makes ZERO sense here with (hopefully) Scoot on board.

This is about to be messy - Dame is going to force his way out to a specific team and the return is going to be underwhelming.
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Your listing players like the Blazers would be trotting out a roster to win games next year. That's not the point if the Blazers trade Dame.

What matters is picks and Brooklyn has way more than Miami.

Not sure trade Dame or not trade Dame matters at all though if Jody is the owner. Team will suck or they'll suck. I guess would we rather lose and watch Dame or lose and watch some 20 year olds try to become stars.

I flip flop on what I want. Ideally I'd want to not be disappointed with the execution of either direction. Unfortunately I'm extremely not confident that can be avoided.
 
Damian also said Booker is one of his favorite players. How about a 3 way deal? Phoenix sends out Ayton for goodies, then Blazers get the good rookie stuff and send Lillard packing to play with KD and Book ??
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Your listing players like the Blazers would be trotting out a roster to win games next year. That's not the point if the Blazers trade Dame.

What matters is picks and Brooklyn has way more than Miami.

Not sure trade Dame or not trade Dame matters at all though if Jody is the owner. Team will suck or they'll suck. I guess would we rather lose and watch Dame or lose and watch some 20 year olds try to become stars.

I flip flop on what I want. Ideally I'd want to not be disappointed with the execution of either direction. Unfortunately I'm extremely not confident that can be avoided.
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My exact thoughts. I have already set myself up for disappointment. Dang Blazers.
 
Whyachi said:
Damian also said Booker is one of his favorite players. How about a 3 way deal? Phoenix sends out Ayton for goodies, then Blazers get the good rookie stuff and send Lillard packing to play with KD and Book ??
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bad idea...

Phoenix gave up all of their decent assets for Durant. They don't have a single 1st round pick to trade. Not one pick....they are all locked up

and for some insane reason I can't figure out, I think Ayton has a lot more value in this forum than he has in any NBA front office. There won't be any decent "goodies" traded for Ayton
 
if Dame does ask out, then obviously, between Miami and Brooklyn the Nets could make the much more attractive offer

but that offer HAS to start with one thing: NO Ben Simmons. He really seems beyond redemption at this point and he has MASSIVE negative value. It would be incredibly stupid to accept him as part of the return...unless the Nets gave Portland every 1st round pick they own without adding any protection...which they wouldn't do IMO. But again, why would Portland trade Dame AND take back one of the worst contracts in the league?

and I think the only intelligent path for Portland, in the event of a Dame trade, is to tear it all down and become a truly shitty team for 2 or 3 more years and load up on high lottery picks

so a trade I'd be OK with is Dame + Nurkic for Dinwiddie + Joe Harris + Claxton + 2025 Phx first + more advantageous of 2027 Phx or Philly first + the two most advantageous of the 2029 Dallas first, 2029 Phoenix 1st, and 2029 Brooklyn first. And I'd only allow the Nets to put top-4 protection on one of the first's, no more. And, a couple of 2nd's

and I'd also re-route both Dinwiddie and Harris for whatever draft capital and expiring contracts are available. Even if it's for 2nd round picks, that's better than putting them on the roster

I'd even look at adding and Ant for a S&T Cam Johnson and reroute Johnson to another team for a future 1st or two
 
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