Heat to make a run at Oden?

[Wheels]

ummm not sure they have anyone not named Wade, who I would want for him.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66932/20100601/heat_could_make_run_at_oden/

 

[Nikolokolus]

A run with what? I'm not opposed to trading Oden, but I'm guessing their offer would be Micheal Beasley -- does that really do us any good?

 

[ironcrotch]

HAHAHAHAHA

 

[shamelessblazer]

If we could somehow work out a three way for Al Horford or Marc Gasol then maybe...otherwise it doesn't seem too interesting.

 

[Wheels]

A run with what? I'm not opposed to trading Oden, but I'm guessing their offer would be Micheal Beasley -- does that really do us any good?

my thoughts exactly.

 

[Wheels]

If we could somehow work out a three way for Al Horford or Marc Gasol then maybe...otherwise it doesn't seem too interesting.

Do Horford or Marc Gasol make us contenders? I'm thinking not, we would maybe make it a round or two further.. but never further IMO. For me the (possible) Reward for keeping Oden, outweighs a WCF appearance or two. Its a gamble though, yes I admit that.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If Oden was traded at this point, my disgust would know no bounds. He's not going to get anything like his healthy value because nobody's going to volunteer to take that risk. Beasley my ass - now THERE'S a projected-top-pick that has been GENUINELY disappointing.

 

[DaRizzle]

If we could somehow work out a three way for Al Horford or Marc Gasol then maybe...otherwise it doesn't seem too interesting.

But they are good, Oden sucks

 

[Wheels]

But they are good, Oden sucks

GTFO!

 

[DaRizzle]

sorry, havent drank coffee yet today

 

[Minstrel]

I'm guessing their offer would be Micheal Beasley -- does that really do us any good?

It does us as much good as trading Bayless and (non-Roy/Oden) filler for a re-signed Wade does Miami.

So, basically, it depends on how you define "good."

 

[THE HCP]

I'm one of the few that is willing to go down with the ship when it comes to Greg. I refuse to think that somebody blessed with the skills I saw while he played at OSU and Vegas Summer League will not become a dominant NBA big man. Injuries are a freak accident and unfortunately Greg has had his share, that doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. He's already considered a bust by some, so he can only go up right. It's easy for people who say on here..... trade him for this or that, but a healthy Greg I believe puts us over the top!


PS- It doesn't help that he is so damn cool. He is a great guy! Wish he was a prick, maybe Id feel different!

 

[OddEnormous]

But they are good, Oden sucks

PER!!!!! PER!!!!

PER!!!!!

PER!!!!!!!

HAVENT YOU SEEN HIS PER!!!!!!!!!!

PER!!!!!!!!

YOU SIMPLY CANT ARGUE PER

P.S. PER!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edit: BTW is there anything more embarrassing than a Laker fan calling Boston fans bandwagon?

I mean for fucking fucks sake dude.

 

[Wheels]

I'm one of the few that is willing to go down with the ship when it comes to Greg. I refuse to think that somebody blessed with the skills I saw while he played at OSU and Vegas Summer League will not become a dominant NBA big man. Injuries are a freak accident and unfortunately Greg has had his share, that doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. He's already considered a bust by some, so he can only go up right. It's easy for people who say on here..... trade him for this or that, but a healthy Greg I believe puts us over the top!


PS- It doesn't help that he is so damn cool. He is a great guy! Wish he was a prick, maybe Id feel different!

I'm with ya on that one. I know its a gamble, but what a healthy Greg offers this team far outweighs what a healthy Gasol would IMO. Sure if ORL called offering Howard I would have to, but The Reward far outweighs the risk IMO. Hanging banners for a 2nd round appearance does nothing for me

 

[hasoos]

Miami has nothing to offer. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I'm one of the few that is willing to go down with the ship when it comes to Greg. I refuse to think that somebody blessed with the skills I saw while he played at OSU and Vegas Summer League will not become a dominant NBA big man. Injuries are a freak accident and unfortunately Greg has had his share, that doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. He's already considered a bust by some, so he can only go up right. It's easy for people who say on here..... trade him for this or that, but a healthy Greg I believe puts us over the top!


PS- It doesn't help that he is so damn cool. He is a great guy! Wish he was a prick, maybe Id feel different!

I'll jump on that ship. I saw enough last year that makes me a believer. Unless he has some sort of rare degenerative disease that I don't know about, I see no reason to think he can't get past these rash of injuries.

 

[crandc]

Agree with HCP et al.

 

[RoyToy]

Wouldn't dismiss anything without at least hearing an offer. Maybe this turns into like a 5 team trade with SnT's and all that.

 

[LameR]

I'm one of the few that is willing to go down with the ship when it comes to Greg. I refuse to think that somebody blessed with the skills I saw while he played at OSU and Vegas Summer League will not become a dominant NBA big man. Injuries are a freak accident and unfortunately Greg has had his share, that doesn't mean I'm giving up on him. He's already considered a bust by some, so he can only go up right. It's easy for people who say on here..... trade him for this or that, but a healthy Greg I believe puts us over the top!


PS- It doesn't help that he is so damn cool. He is a great guy! Wish he was a prick, maybe Id feel different!

This.

 

[BGrantFan]

A three-team trade that in the end nets us Bosh would be worth trading Oden and, say, Batum and Rudy and Joel's contract.

 

[Wheels]

A three-team trade that in the end nets us Bosh would be worth trading Oden and, say, Batum and Rudy and Joel's contract.

Oden, Batum, and Rudy, and JPEC? No thanks.

 

[THE HCP]

Agree with HCP et al.

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[OddEnormous]

A three-team trade that in the end nets us Bosh would be worth trading Oden and, say, Batum and Rudy and Joel's contract.

I'm a HUGE Bosh fan, but that's too much to give up. No Batum. Everyone else in there a goer though.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

A three-team trade that in the end nets us Bosh would be worth trading Oden and, say, Batum and Rudy and Joel's contract.

No it fucking wouldn't!

I'd trade Aldridge and Rudy. And then immediately regret it, because Aldridge can guard Gasol, but Bosh can't. I MIGHT consider Batum for Bosh straight up. Maybe.

Let Bosh go to the Lakers for Bynum and see how they get Bosh, Gasol and Odom to work.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

PS- It doesn't help that he is so damn cool. He is a great guy! Wish he was a prick, maybe Id feel different!

So: Damon's a dickhead, Oden's cool. Any more info you'd be prepared to give?

(To be specific: does Oden get on with any other Blazer? He seems like he's still a bit distant.)

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Just the sight of Oden annoys me these days but anything they can offer outside Wade would be an insult.

Fuck off, Miami.

 

[shamelessblazer]

Do Horford or Marc Gasol make us contenders? I'm thinking not, we would maybe make it a round or two further.. but never further IMO. For me the (possible) Reward for keeping Oden, outweighs a WCF appearance or two. Its a gamble though, yes I admit that.

It's probably pointless to discuss too much in detail because both possibilities are so unlikely, but I happen to believe we are contendors with either of them. Last year we never gelled, had a horrible offensive set, and still won 50 games. With either of those two our front-line would improve immensly (over the team sans oden), and I don't really see what we're missing. Okay we have no completely dominant players, but I don't see a whole lot of weaknesses, and I think our front-court would be incredible.

Of course it would also be incredible with a healthy and comfortable and confident Oden.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don't get it. A lot of people saying so ans so doesn't make us a contender, but how in the hell does someone who plays 82 games since we drafted him 3 years ago make us a contender?

 

[oldmangrouch]

I don't get it. A lot of people saying so ans so doesn't make us a contender, but how in the hell does someone who plays 82 games since we drafted him 3 years ago make us a contender?

This.

If some of you want to go down with the ship, then no rational argument is going to change your mind. Enjoy being shark's dung.

 

[LittleAlex]

I don't get it. A lot of people saying so ans so doesn't make us a contender, but how in the hell does someone who plays 82 games since we drafted him 3 years ago make us a contender?

Oden gives Portland a chance to be a contender if he stays healthy. Hard to say how likely this is.

Marc Gasol and Al Hortford have zero chance to transform Portland into a contender by themselves.

That is the logic as I see it.


I am with HCP on this one. I would rather the team swing for the fences on Oden's knees then trade him so they can be a first round out for the next 10 years in a row.