Higher ceiling: Aldridge or Griffin

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Honestly, I think these two are the best PF's in this upcoming generation. (Sorry K-Love gets no love here). I know it's going to come down to one or the other who will take the crown for best PF. We're kind of in a transition right now as Duncan, KG, and Gasol are riding off to the sunset. Gasol not so much.

What's your take? Take into account the full package, not just who get more ESPN highlights.
 
That's hard to say. If you want to talk just stats, probably Griffin will compile more. I think LA has a better overall game and is a smarter player. I'll take LA.
 
Griffin is stronger and quicker. He can handle the ball and finish.

They both run the floor well and Aldridge is longer.

But Griffin is almost four years younger, too.

Griffin has a MUCH higher upside.

Ed O.
 
Even though he's young and has plenty of years to learn, has Blake showed any signs of becoming a dominant one-on-one player? I'm not going to pretend I know, I don't catch Clippers game very often, so I will ask if he's improved his post up game much so far?

Don't forget defense.
 
Even though he's young and has plenty of years to learn, has Blake showed any signs of becoming a dominant one-on-one player? I'm not going to pretend I know, I don't catch Clippers game very often, so I will ask if he's improved his post up game much so far?

Don't forget defense.

BG's still a rookie. Go look at LA's rookie stats. I love LA as a Blazer, but even I'm not that big a homer.

Go Blazers
 
If Aldridge keeps playing the way he is, I don't really care if Griffin's "ceiling" is higher. LMA' "ceiling" is just fine.
 
griffin is having the best rookie season since MJ. you could say nobody in the NBA has a higher ceiling.
 
If Aldridge keeps playing the way he is, I don't really care if Griffin's "ceiling" is higher. LMA' "ceiling" is just fine.

I completely agree ... but that wasn't the question.
 
My only concern with Griffin is that his game relies quite a bit on his explosiveness, jumping, power. He is not a finesse player. That's not a bad thing, but you have to wonder how long he can sustain that kind of game before his body starts breaking down.
 
My only concern with Griffin is that his game relies quite a bit on his explosiveness, jumping, power. He is not a finesse player. That's not a bad thing, but you have to wonder how long he can sustain that kind of game before his body starts breaking down.

Sounds like you've been watching too many Blazers games.
 
is griffin always gonna be a stat monster on a bad team with no defense?????

or is la's teams always gonna win while he is quietly more tim duncan (not flasHy media espn love fest)
 
LA is playing great. If he can put seasons together like he has the last couple of months, he will be an All Star (even if it doesn't happen this year). We're lucky to have him.

Blake Griffin is going challenge Lebron and KD for MVP's for the next 10 years. He's ridiculous. No slight on LA WHATSOEVER.
 
i dont love griffin like everyone else. hes terrible on defense, seems more like 6-8 and gets mor elove for his dunks then his actual game.
 
LeBron is a freak on all facets of the game. KD is a phenomenal scoring machine in every single way.
 
Stats are great and all, but will Griffin ever be able to be able to defend his position? In 5 years will Griffin still not have the length to contend the shots of Bigs like LA? Defense from Bigs is a major component of winning hoops, and winning is the real object of the game. I'm sure BG will have the better highlight real, but I see his career projection as the next Sir Charles while LA seems to be evolving into the next Timmy D.

to me this is a question of what you value more... stats/highlights or wins

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I completely agree ... but that wasn't the question.

But it's the only answer that is worth while to me. Griffin is a great player, but he's never going to be a Blazer. I hope Blake has a wonderful career and gets his ass handed to him by LMA every damn time he plays the Blazers.
 
But it's the only answer that is worth while to me. Griffin is a great player, but he's never going to be a Blazer. I hope Blake has a wonderful career and gets his ass handed to him by LMA every damn time he plays the Blazers.
Has any other great Clipper gone on to greatness while remaining a Clipper? There track record tells me it isn't totally unfeasible to pick off their talent.
 
I'd say LaMarcus has a higher ceiling in his house. He's taller.
 
I really can't say since neither has invited me into their home.
 
I actually think LMA has a higher ceiling. Now this is an extreme view and its based on a few things. LMA is taller and has more length then griffin. Griffin is stronger and faster then LMA. Offensively LMA is going to get his points threw a lot of different post moves and outside shooting. Griffin is gonna get his points threw shear force of will and athletic ability. LMA is gonna play at a high level into his high thirties Griffin will drop off into his early thirties. Offensively Griffin will be a LOT better, wont have as many moves as LMA but he is just unstoppable near the rim.
Why I say LMA has a higher ceiling is because he is showing that he can be a monster offensively but what i'v always liked about LMA is how he is built to be the next KG defensively. If LMA continues to develop defensively then he will be a better rounded player then griffin. A guy who can hold down both sides of the court while Griffin with all his athletics gifts and his ability to dominate in the paint offensively, defensively he gets abused. I dont' see anything changing in the future with his size/arm span bigger PF will always be able to take advantage of him on the defensive end.
If you want a guy who is gonna be a MONSTER offensively and get you stats Griffin is hands down the better talent.
If you want a guy who will be able to dominate both sides of the court LMA will be your guy.
Of course Griffin could prove me wrong and somehow become dominate on the defensive end. I doubt it but i'v been wrong in the passed and I will be wrong in the future so I guess in a few years we'll see.
 
Aldridge is averaging 25/10 or so since Roy went down. Griffin is at 22/12. I don't think Griffin has a lot of upside in the rebounding area (historically there isn't much room to expand beyond 12/game), so his upside will mostly be realized in scoring improvement and defense.

When people say Griffin will be much better than Aldridge offensively, what does that mean? That his team will be able to throw it into him in the post and he'll score against anyone like Shaq did, thereby garnering 27-30 ppg, year after year for a decade? It doesn't seem likely. He doesn't have those kind of skills.

So what you are really talking about is a Nowitzki/Amare/Barkley level of offense. A perennial 25 ppg guy who maybe jumps up to 28 ppg for a few prime years. Which is pretty much the same career path that Aldridge seems to be on.

Griffin got on that path 4 years earlier than Aldridge, so maybe he racks up more points over his entire NBA career. But he's also ridiculously reliant on his athleticism and he's already undergone major knee surgery once, so even that isn't a sure thing.

Then you have to bring in how both guys are used in the offense. Griffin seems to be in the Nowitzki/Amare mold of big men where you design the offense around timing ball movement so that he's in position to get a great shot.

Aldridge seems to be more in the mold of big men like Shaq and Duncan where you throw the ball into the post and then watch the other team scramble around trying to deal with it.

The first type of big man augments a well-functioning offense. The other creates a well-functioning offense. I'll take the latter any time, all else being roughly equal.
 
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It will be interesting to see how Griffin does as he gets more experienced - if he can turn into a Karl Malone style and execute in a structured offense without it coming from being so much more active than anyone else - if he can, it's Griffin, if not, it's Aldridge.

Either way - both are fantastic.
 

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