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This is almost a tl;dr even for me, but a pretty decent line-by-line from Hillary's press conference transcript.

That is, if you don't think the Federalist is a right-wing smear rag. But there are some things that made me go "hm" in there, and the author's distrust of Hillary aside, there are some huge lies and contradictions in there that are easy to spot if you have the transcript.

Edit: forgot link
http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/11/a-line-edit-of-hillary-clintons-disastrous-email-press-conference/
 
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How did you learn to stick your head up your ass and ignore the deceit designed for you to cover for incompetence?

It was pretty difficult, I had to take lots of yoga classes. At least they were free with my healthcare though.
 
I would never vote for Warren, for obvious reasons.

I don't blame you. Can't imagine what the woman was thinking of, it makes no sense. I would think, for each person that is attracted to her minority status plea,
she would offend three.
 
It's early 2015. No one has any fucking clue who or what will be in play in late 2016.
 
We have a clue she's Nixon 2.0. That won't change in the next 18 months.
 
I always have to check myself when I agree with you Denny. But Yes, I do agree.
 
She'll survive this easily. To paraphrase Chris Berman, "Nobody circles the wagons like the Democratic Party".
 
She'll survive this easily. To paraphrase Chris Berman, "Nobody circles the wagons like the Democratic Party".

Yep, very true. This was a smart play on her part to get HER massage out to HER believers to cloud the issue in its entirety, and by the time the elections do come around, she can get away with another "What does it matter anyway" moment.
 
She'll survive this easily. To paraphrase Chris Berman, "Nobody circles the wagons like the Democratic Party".

Will Rogers said in the 1930s, "I don't belong to an organized party. I'm a Democrat." After the 1968 convention fracas, Republicans ridiculed Democrats for many years, claiming to have won in 1968 because of how much freedom Democrats practiced in deciding their nominee. Democrats got the message, and by the 1980s, Democratic conventions were as predictable as Republican ones. That's why TV ratings have gone way down for the conventions.

Meanwhile, Republicans increasingly depended upon the Make a Mountain out of a Molehill technique for manufacturing fake scandals. After being suckered in 1980, Democratic voters learned to ignore the mouthy blowhards.

There's a difference between circling the wagons, vs. just ignoring you, which is all we do. Notice how you keep losing elections, despite dominating the media? Everyone's onto you, except the mass media, because you guys own it.
 
Recently Jeb Bush released a large volume of emails from the personal – i.e., non-governmental – email account that he routinely used as Florida governor, and then praised his own transparency with self-serving extravagance. The only problem is that those released emails represent only 10 percent of the total. The rest he has simply withheld, without any public review.

When Scott Walker served as Milwaukee county executive, before he was elected Wisconsin governor, he and his staff used a secret email system for unlawful campaign work on public time; that system emerged as part of an investigation that ultimately sent one of his aides to prison (another was immunized by prosecutors)

Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has used a personal email account for government business, as has former Texas governor Rick Perry. So have Florida senator Marco Rubio, and various congressmembers who have been heard to spout off about Clinton’s emails, such as Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz.

Those examples epitomize hypocrisy, of course — yet none compares with the truly monumental email scandal of the Bush years, when millions of emails went missing from White House servers – and many more were never archived, as required since 1978 by the Presidential Records Act.

Dozens of Bush White House staff used a series of private email accounts provided by the Republican National Committee (whose loud-talking chairman Reince Priebus now mocks Clinton as the “Secretary of Secrecy”). The RNC’s White House email clients most notably included scandal-ridden Bush advisor Karl Rove, who used the party accounts for an estimated 95 percent of his electronic messaging, and by Rove’s staff.

Among many other dubious activities, Rove aide Susan Ralston used her private RNC email to discuss Interior Department appointments with the office of crooked lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who wanted to influence the department on behalf of gambling interests. According to Abramoff associate Kevin Ring, another White House official explained to him that “it is better not to put this stuff in their email system because it might actually limit what they can do to help us, especially since there could be lawsuits, etc…” While Rove was forced to surrender some emails involving his notorious exposure of CIA agent Valerie Plame, he retained the capacity to delete thousands of emails.

Various investigations and lawsuits uncovered the astonishing breadth of the Bush White House email fiasco, such as the “recycling” of backup tapes for all of its emails between Inauguration Day 2001 and sometime in 2003. This evidently meant that vast troves of messages pertaining to the 9/11 terrorist attack went missing, of course – along with whatever Rove and his aides might have communicated on that topic, or weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or countless other topics of public concern.

And former Secretary of State Colin Powell, whose office was also involved in both the Plame and WMD scandals, admitted recently that he used private emails in office – but that he turned over and retained none of them – zero. (Powell’s successor Condoleezza Rice claims she didn’t use email at all.) By contrast, Clinton has turned over tens of thousands of her emails to the State Department.

Thanks to a federal lawsuit filed by two nonprofit watchdog groups, the National Security Archive at George Washington University and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a small proportion of the missing Bush White House emails were eventually restored – but only when the Obama administration finally settled the case in 2009. Those strict Obama rules for preserving emails (which Clinton stands accused of ignoring) resulted directly from the new administration’s determination to avoid the mess engendered by the deceptive and unlawful preservation practices of the Bush White House.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/medias-email-hysteria-why-are-republicans-exempt/

End of thread, end of "scandal." There was no scandal when Bush did it much, much bigger, breaking the 1978 law.
 
Nah, Jeb is on his way out, too. Though his emails aren't hiding quid pro quo for donations to his "charity."
 
You must have just read the first paragraph of my excerpt, the one about Jeb covering it up. Paragraphs 2 and 3 say that other Republicans used separate personal e-mail accounts, too. Paragraphs 4 to 9 describe how George (not Jeb) Bush and his administration did it in monumental illegal scale, disappearing millions of messages (Hillary's quantity is tiny in comparison).
 
The Bush administration people used the government email servers.
 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ab02...new-record-denying-censoring-government-files

US sets new record for denying, censoring government files

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration set a new record again for more often than ever censoring government files or outright denying access to them last year under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, according to a new analysis of federal data by The Associated Press.

The government took longer to turn over files when it provided any, said more regularly that it couldn't find documents, and refused a record number of times to turn over files quickly that might be especially newsworthy.

It also acknowledged in nearly 1 in 3 cases that its initial decisions to withhold or censor records were improper under the law — but only when it was challenged.

Its backlog of unanswered requests at year's end grew remarkably by 55 percent to more than 200,000. It also cut by 375, or about 9 percent, the number of full-time employees across government paid to look for records. That was the fewest number of employees working on the issue in five years.
 
This isn't a Republican issue, or a Democratic issue. This is an issue about our rights as Americans to hold our elected officials accountable. Here is just the latest outrage (with delicious irony as to the date): https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...e-administration-completely-unfoia-able.shtml

These people forget their place. They work for us, not the other way around. Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, no matter. They are accountable to us. If they don't like it, they can find another vocation.

As was once said, "Where the People fear the Government, there is Tyrrany. Where the Government fears the People, there is Liberty." I choose Liberty.
 
The Bush administration people used the government email servers.

Read my article. "Dozens of Bush White House staff used a series of private email accounts provided by the Republican National Committee"

Besides, the issue is whether they and Hillary used a private e-mail account. It doesn't matter whether the account is on Hotmail or a government server.

I look forward to the Republicans pushing for an investigation of Hillary on this matter. (It will be deep-sixed, to hide their own guilt.)
 

Good article.

The White House is removing a federal regulation that subjects its Office of Administration to the Freedom of Information Act, making official a policy under Presidents Bush and Obama to reject requests for records to that office.

As I've posted before...The people elected Obama to reverse Bush's evils. Instead, he codified them into law, because intelligence agencies had installed a Constitutional lawyer to get them off the hook.
 
Read my article. "Dozens of Bush White House staff used a series of private email accounts provided by the Republican National Committee"

Besides, the issue is whether they and Hillary used a private e-mail account. It doesn't matter whether the account is on Hotmail or a government server.

I look forward to the Republicans pushing for an investigation of Hillary on this matter. (It will be deep-sixed, to hide their own guilt.)

They still used the government email servers.

Hillary NEVER did.

And they never traded favors for donations to their "charity."
 
In Bush's time, the Democrat raised hell about doing business on the government accounts, so it was deemed they must use private accounts, (the RNC) to do political business. So the
political was done on the RNC and the public done on the government accounts. Thus Hiillary's charge of shreding the Constitution with using secret accounts. All possible to audit though.
They later merged all this into the archives which raise hell again for removing them from the private server. However, none were lost. the removed count matches the archive count.
Nobody knows nor can they audit what ever the fuck Hillary did.
 

Geez! These guy have to step up one of these days.
"Gowdy said that Clinton’s response to the subpoena means he and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will now contemplate new legal actions against Clinton."
They hold the only recourse.

The flaunting of the constitution by this administration is almost like our Constitutional Republic has suffered a Coupe.
This is blatant disregard for right or law.
 
I've deleted very little email over the past 30 years. There's no reason to. Disk is cheap.
 
A female Nixon clone but without the good qualities (he made peace with China and Russia among other things).

http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/15/c...ther-she-is-capable-of-being-president-video/

Hillary Clinton’s email scandal should disqualify her from the Oval Office.

At least so says former CIA operative and CNN national security analyst Bob Baer, who is not known for being a political partisan.

“If this was on her server and it got into her smart phone, there’s a big problem there,” Baer said during an appearance on CNN International Saturday, noting that the sensitivity of the information reportedly found on Clinton’s private server was likely more secret than what Edward Snowden pilfered.

“Seriously, if I had sent a document like this over the open Internet I’d get fired the same day, escorted to the door and gone for good — and probably charged with mishandling classified information,” Baer said.
 

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