Hillary or The Donald-Which is Easier to Impeach?

[e_blazer]

I've made no bones as to my opinion that neither Clinton or Trump is worthy of being president. Sadly, one of them will win the election in spite of their failings. I have little doubt that the vice presidential candidates would make a superior choice over the top halves of their tickets so my current thought is to root for the one who will be easier to impeach. Both have ongoing legal issues that could lead to impeachment. If the Republicans hold onto the Senate as well as the House, they would have the means to impeach Hillary, while it seems unlikely that the Dems can win both houses. Based on that, I'm now rooting for Hillary to win.

 

[julius]

I've made no bones as to my opinion that neither Clinton or Trump is worthy of being president. Sadly, one of them will win the election in spite of their failings. I have little doubt that the vice presidential candidates would make a superior choice over the top halves of their tickets so my current thought is to root for the one who will be easier to impeach. Both have ongoing legal issues that could lead to impeachment. If the Republicans hold onto the Senate as well as the House, they would have the means to impeach Hillary, while it seems unlikely that the Dems can win both houses. Based on that, I'm now rooting for Hillary to win.

actually, if the Republicans hold onto the Senate and the House, they won't have the means to impeach her as they need at least 67 votes from the senate, to impeach her (and you know, an actual reason to). And besides the fact they won't have anything near 67 in the senate, the chances of democrats actually going along with the impeachment is pretty much non existent.

Same with if the situation was reversed.

So, it would be a waste of time. And plus, how did the last time they impeached a Clinton work out for them?

 

[MARIS61]

Hillary will be impeached if elected, or step down in a plea deal. Unavoidable at this point. So much evidence of blatant criminality just spewing forth each day on Wikileaks, through lawsuits, and from FBI investigations.

FBI will be presenting the biggest RICO case in US history against the Clinton Foundation sometime next year, if not sooner. Members of the DOJ may be included as defendants. Obama is already getting soiled by association.

 

[e_blazer]

Ah crap, Julius, you're no fun. I hold out hope that the FBI will provide sufficient demonstration of corruption between the emails and the Clinton Foundation that at least some Democrats will be swayed to ditch her.

 

[julius]

Hillary will be impeached if elected, or step down in a plea deal. Unavoidable at this point. So much evidence of blatant criminality just spewing forth each day on Wikileaks, through lawsuits, and from FBI investigations.

FBI will be presenting the biggest RICO case in US history against the Clinton Foundation sometime next year, if not sooner. Members of the DOJ may be included as defendants. Obama is already getting soiled by association.

You should look into what it takes to impeach a president, because I kind of get the impression you think it just takes saying it three times in a mirror.

 

[Denny Crane]

Impeachment is easy enough. Conviction in the senate would be purely partisan.

Though nevertrump types might be happy to see Pence get the job.

 

[e_blazer]

In the face of an FBI case, I think the Dems might abandon the old USS Clinton like rats scurrying off a sinking ship. There's no reason to support her since she has zero chance of reelection due to age and cumulative crappola. Getting Kaine in office might open up possibilities in 2020.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Trump is not about to put his empire in a blind trust. Letting his kids run things ain't a blind trust.

 

[e_blazer]

Trump is not about to put his empire in a blind trust. Letting his kids run things ain't a blind trust.

Even if he has them wear sleeping masks?

 

[Further]

Not sure, but if being kicked out of office (conviction in senate) is the goal, I think it's going to need to be something big enough to bring ones own party members on board. The question is, which one of them will do something outlandish enough to bring the ire of their supporters? Most likely, I think that's Trump.

 

[barfo]

I think that's probably right. Hillary actually has friends and supporters in congress; Trump mostly doesn't. So the republican 'establishment' turning on Trump isn't hard to imagine at all.

What is hard to imagine is Trump actually getting elected. But maybe they could impeach him anyway, just for giggles.

barfo

 

[Jade Falcon]

Hillary will be impeached if elected, or step down in a plea deal. Unavoidable at this point. So much evidence of blatant criminality just spewing forth each day on Wikileaks, through lawsuits, and from FBI investigations.

FBI will be presenting the biggest RICO case in US history against the Clinton Foundation sometime next year, if not sooner. Members of the DOJ may be included as defendants. Obama is already getting soiled by association.

There is a God after all. Hallelujah.

The sooner this bitch is out of politics, the better this country will be. Her Disciples also don't think she'll get us into a war overseas, which is utter bullshit; seeing as how she wants a NFZ in Syria. Oh yeah....the Russians are gonna love that.

And oh yeah...we need to give Iran another reason to hate our guts while we're at it. A foreign woman, leader of "The Great Satan", throwing her weight around in a Muslim country should do the trick.

As for Impeachment, it's like Julius said: it's pointless. The only way I see it happening is if the evidence is just simply too overwhelming and damning. But it has GOT to be too big to ignore.

 

[blue32]

If what I am reading on 4chan in regards to what Anon and Wikileaks have found recently is true, there could be some very damaging shit coming out

100GB of email data, 16MB in p#rnographic evidence (including m1n0rs) and 3GB of video.

I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole, but it's being uploaded to Wikileaks.

 

[Jade Falcon]

If what I am reading on 4chan in regards to what Anon and Wikileaks have found recently is true, there could be some very damaging shit coming out

100GB of email data, 16MB in p#rnographic evidence (including m1n0rs) and 3GB of video.

I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole, but it's being uploaded to Wikileaks.

I haven't been following the whole email scandal thingy, but this makes me very happy.

Down with the Hag.

 

[Denny Crane]

The 650,000 emails found on Huma Abedin's laptop are already grounds for impeachment.

Exactly what would Trump be impeached for?

 

[julius]

The 650,000 emails found on Huma Abedin's laptop are already grounds for impeachment.

based on what? Nothing earth shattering has come out of it (involving her, from, to or about), and there is no indication the emails involve anything important to do with her.

If AW has child porn on it, that's on him, not Clinton.

 

[Denny Crane]

based on what? Nothing earth shattering has come out of it (involving her, from, to or about), and there is no indication the emails involve anything important to do with her.

If AW has child porn on it, that's on him, not Clinton.

I'm pretty sure Weiner didn't have security clearance.

Even if Barfo thinks he should have it.

It also shows the scale of the abuse of the abuse - we've been led to believe it was 1/10th as many emails and half of those were illegally disposed of.

 

[barfo]

I'm pretty sure Weiner didn't have security clearance.

And... you think Clinton asked/ordered Huma to give Weiner classified material?

I think you'd need actual evidence for that one.

barfo

 

[julius]

I'm pretty sure Weiner didn't have security clearance.

Even if Barfo thinks he should have it.

It also shows the scale of the abuse of the abuse - we've been led to believe it was 1/10th as many emails and half of those were illegally disposed of.

Has something come out to suggest he was given anything that needed security clearance?

 

[Denny Crane]

And... you think Clinton asked/ordered Huma to give Weiner classified material?

I think you'd need actual evidence for that one.

barfo

Where does the buck stop?

The whole lot of her surrogates are crooks and were in on the illegal distribution of classified materials.

And you question Trump's hires.

hahahahahahaha

 

[Denny Crane]

Has something come out to suggest he was given anything that needed security clearance?

They certainly don't give clearance to people not in government or contracted to the government.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

They certainly don't give clearance to people not in government or contracted to the government.

That's why I won't read the Wikileaks emails.

 

[julius]

They certainly don't give clearance to people not in government or contracted to the government.

so, just getting an email from Clinton now requires security clearance? or mentioning her name in an email requires it?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

so, just getting an email from Clinton now requires security clearance? or mentioning her name in an email requires it?

58% of the people Hillary has sent email to have ended up dead in 3 mos.

 

[Denny Crane]

so, just getting an email from Clinton now requires security clearance? or mentioning her name in an email requires it?

Part of the FBI's reasoning in not recommending prosecution was that the classified information didn't end up in the hands of those who shouldn't have it.

This changes everything - the information may well be in the hands of those who shouldn't have it. All it takes is ONE email with such information on this machine.

 

[julius]

Part of the FBI's reasoning in not recommending prosecution was that the classified information didn't end up in the hands of those who shouldn't have it.

This changes everything - the information may well be in the hands of those who shouldn't have it. All it takes is ONE email with such information on this machine.

you should totally see how desperate you are sounding.

 

[barfo]

Where does the buck stop?

If it worked that way - that any offense by a subordinate is cause for impeachment - then probably every president would have been impeached.

You need to get a grip.

Plus the fact that you have absolutely no proof that even a subordinate did anything wrong. And no, you saying 'criminal' another hundred times doesn't prove your case.

barfo

 

[julius]

58% of the people Hillary has sent email to have ended up dead in 3 mos.

Crap....she sent me an email 89 days ago....

 

[Rastapopoulos]

58% of the people Hillary has sent email to have ended up dead in 3 mos.

So that's an updated version of The Ring, right?

 

[barfo]

If what I am reading on 4chan in regards to what Anon and Wikileaks have found recently is true, there could be some very damaging shit coming out

100GB of email data, 16MB in p#rnographic evidence (including m1n0rs) and 3GB of video.

I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole, but it's being uploaded to Wikileaks.

Yes, I'm sure Hillary is into child porn. That's, like, totally believable.

barfo