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Cippy91 said:
if you are corrupt, you are corrupt. Simple
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There's a famous (and perhaps made up) quote attributed to Einstein: "everything should be as simple as possible, but not simpler".

You've made it simpler.

barfo
 
barfo said:
There's a famous (and perhaps made up) quote attributed to Einstein: "everything should be as simple as possible, but not simpler".

You've made it simpler.

barfo
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There's a famous quote attributed to snoop dogg: "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks".
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/opinion/clinton-sanders-democratic-party.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/opinion

The Struggle Between Clinton and Sanders Is Not Over

Intra-Democratic conflict resurfaced this week with the release of anti-Sanders passages from Hillary Clinton’s new book, “What Happened.”​

Clinton wrote that “attacks” Sanders made during the primary season

caused lasting damage, making it harder to unify progressives in the general election and paving the way for Trump’s “Crooked Hillary” campaign. I don’t know if that bothered Bernie or not.

Clinton added that Sanders “didn’t get into the race to make sure a Democrat won the White House, he got in to disrupt the Democratic Party.”

In a statement on Wednesday, Sanders countered: “My response is that right now it’s appropriate to look forward and not backward.”​

I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders, but I do not think he's as corrupt as the majority of our politicians, and he is sincere and seems like a perfectly good fellow. I don't like his ideas much. He's lunatic fringe. The fact that he was able to nearly win the fixed Democratic Primaries says more about who he ran against than him.
 
Bro I'm not joking. She was literally napping.... Laid back like:

”I got this”....

Then those results from Wisconsin came in...

”I ran a traditional campaign”
”Trump’s campaign was like a reality show”

She literally said people were being sexist to her...

Well yeah, what country are you in? Just like they were racist to Barack they were sexist to you.

But that's not why you lost!!!

You lost because you couldn't get my vote.
  • I've been a lifelong Democrat (I LEFT the Dems because of her)
  • I'm Black (we tend to vote Dem).
  • I'm Pro-Woman (I voted for a woman but NOT the liar)
  • I'm Pro-Privacy (It's God's will for your dick to go limp when your 50+ but for some reason Viagra doesn't get talked about when it comes to healthcare coverage)
  • I'm Pro-Healthcare for all
I'm like, low hanging fruit for Liberals buuuuuuuut.....

HilLiar ain't no liberal...
 
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dviss1 said:
Bro I'm not joking. She was literally napping.... Laid back like:

”I got this”....

Then those results from Wisconsin came in...

”I ran a traditional campaign”
”Trump’s campaign was like a reality show”

She literally said people were being sexist to her...

Well yeah, what country are you in? Just like they were racist to Barack they were sexist to you.

But that's not why you lost!!!

You lost because you couldn't get my vote.

  • I've been a lifelong Democrat.
  • I'm Black (we tend to vote Dem).
  • I'm Pro-Woman (I voted for a woman but NOT the liar)
  • I'm Pro-Privacy (It's God's will for your dick to go limp when your 50+ but for some reason Viagra doesn't get talked about when it comes to healthcare coverage)
  • I'm Pro-Healthcare for all
I'm like, low hanging fruit for Liberals buuuuuuuut.....

HilLiar ain't now liberal...
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Hasn't Hillary against gay marriage as recently as several years before this past election? She also called black men "super predators", right?

It's fairly well known she was a near centrist moderate until right before the election when she swerved far left.
 
santeesioux said:
Hasn't Hillary against gay marriage as recently as several years before this past election? She also called black men "super predators", right?

It's fairly well known she was a near centrist moderate until right before the election when she swerved far left.
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Yes. And when questioned by a journalist who was trying to help her explain why she flipped on so many things so recently she got pissed at the reporter.

She acted like she was LEADING the Democrats to the left for all of those years. Ha fucking ha!
 
Trump didn't campaign in California. Everywhere else he campaigned in Democrat states, he won or did really well. How do you think he'd have done if he campaigned in California?

Certainly enough to gain 3M votes, if not more. Just like he did in Minnesota and Wisconsin and PA and ...
 
santeesioux said:
Hasn't Hillary against gay marriage as recently as several years before this past election? She also called black men "super predators", right?

It's fairly well known she was a near centrist moderate until right before the election when she swerved far left.
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? She was centrist all along. She never swerved left except to battle Bernie a bit (and that wasn't a very convincing swerve, since she is in fact a moderate).

As for "super predators", yeah, she said that once, ~25 years ago. It was a stupid thing to say, but everybody says something stupid at some point.

Gay marriage: yes, she was slow to come around on that. But so was the rest of the country, so that's consistent with her being a centrist.

barfo
 
dviss1 said:
  • I'm Pro-Privacy (It's God's will for your dick to go limp when your 50+ but for some reason Viagra doesn't get talked about when it comes to healthcare coverage)
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I'm not sure I understand this one.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
Trump didn't campaign in California. Everywhere else he campaigned in Democrat states, he won or did really well. How do you think he'd have done if he campaigned in California?

Certainly enough to gain 3M votes, if not more. Just like he did in Minnesota and Wisconsin and PA and ...
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Shall we bring up an argument nobody can confirm or refute?

Meh....
 
barfo said:
I'm not sure I understand this one.

barfo
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It's easy.

Abortion is a constitutional right. There are HIPPA laws. Medical history is private. Even to politicians ect.

I remember John McCain saying, "I don't want to put a bureaucrat between you and your doctor". When you outlaw abortion that's exactly what's being done. A bureaucrat is being put between a patient and doctor.

Furthermore, we aren't trusting women to make a decision with their own bodies.

Bottom line:
Medical procedures are private and anti-abortionists try to make public what is supposed to be kept private BY LAW.
Like I said, if a man's dick goes limp at 50, you don't see liberals talking about it nor trying to prevent him from getting his dick meds even tho his limp biscuit is what "God intended".

It's PRIVATE.
 
dviss1 said:
It's easy.

Abortion is a constitutional right. There are HIPPA laws. Medical history is private. Even to politicians ect.

I remember John McCain saying, "I don't want to put a bureaucrat between you and your doctor". When you outlaw abortion that's exactly what's being done. A bureaucrat is being put between a patient and doctor.

Furthermore, we aren't trusting women to make a decision with their own bodies.

Bottom line:
Medical procedures are private and anti-abortionists try to make public what is supposed to be kept private BY LAW.
Like I said, if a man's dick goes limp at 50, you don't see liberals talking about it nor trying to prevent him from getting his dick meds even tho his limp biscuit is what "God intended".

It's PRIVATE.
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Ah, ok. Makes sense and of course I agree.

barfo
 
dviss1 said:
Shall we bring up an argument nobody can confirm or refute?

Meh....
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I think it's likely he would have gained _some_ voters if he advertised here (in CA). Where he did advertise (and visit), he overachieved expectations, no?
 
Denny Crane said:
I think it's likely he would have gained _some_ voters if he advertised here (in CA). Where he did advertise (and visit), he overachieved expectations, no?
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Nope. I don't think so at all. He didn't campaign there for a reason and that's why.

Conversely, if HilLiar would have campaigned in Wisconsin, I think she would've done way better. They were mad and voted against her because she didn't come.
 
dviss1 said:
Nope. I don't think so at all. He didn't campaign there for a reason and that's why.

Conversely, if HilLiar would have campaigned in Wisconsin, I think she would've done way better. They were mad and voted against her because she didn't come.
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You want it both ways.

Where Trump campaigned, he did better than expected, especially in Democrat states (states Obama won). His strategy didn't require winning votes in California, nor spending money on gaining a few million votes where he was likely to lose.

Did Clinton win a republican state (voted for Romney)?

In my neighborhood (in California), there were a lot of Hiliar signs. But there were about 2:1 Trump signs, too. When the smear campaign was launched against him (his remarks about groping women), a lot of those Trump signs had the "Trump" blocked out with duct tape so they read "Pence."

I knew something was up by this, but I didn't expect Trump would win.

What a glorious night it was to see her lose.
 
Denny Crane said:
When the smear campaign was launched against him (his remarks about groping women),
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Interesting that you think that was a smear campaign, given that it was a tape of Trump himself talking.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Interesting that you think that was a smear campaign, given that it was a tape of Trump himself talking.

barfo
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The man appeared on the Howard Stern show.

For a clown, you don't realize when someone's joking.

It was a smear because NBC sat on it until they thought it would do the most damage to his campaign. If it were actual news, why wait?
 

She said something stupid. He said something stupid. Pointing out such things isn't a 'smear campaign'.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
The man appeared on the Howard Stern show.
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So what?

For a clown, you don't realize when someone's joking.
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You were joking when you said it was a smear campaign? Ok.

It was a smear because NBC sat on it until they thought it would do the most damage to his campaign. If it were actual news, why wait?
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I can't answer for NBC, I'm not in charge of them. I do not know whether they sat on it or not. If it's the case that the Trump people can forget about meeting Russians because they had so many meetings a year ago, then it's surely the case that NBC can forget about a tape from more than a decade ago. They make a lot of videotape.

barfo
 
This is kinda important because NBC claims they sat on the tape for about a week.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/10/11/donald-trump-tape-billy-bush-nbc-access-staff-knew/

DONALD TRUMP
NBC STAFF & 'ACCESS' BRASS KNEW ABOUT
Outtakes Months Ago

People at NBC knew about Donald Trump's crude convo with Billy Bush for at least 2 months ... because Billy was bragging about it back then.

TMZ has confirmed ... Billy was telling NBC staffers in Rio about the tape back in early August, when he was still working for "Access Hollywood." We're told word circulated because Billy made it clear Trump was trash-talking Nancy O'Dell.

NBC News says it didn't know about the outtakes until a week ago Monday, but the word around the network is people knew, including executives at 'Access,' which is an NBC property. We're told those executives had full knowledge of Billy's comments on the tape... which creates a potential problem if NBC is serious about firing him.
 
barfo said:
She said something stupid. He said something stupid. Pointing out such things isn't a 'smear campaign'.

barfo
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I just wanted you to dismiss what Trump said as not that big of a deal. Done.
 
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