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Mick is driving along and then all of a sudden....

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That tank don’t got rear differentials
 
How do I join this clique? Is there an initiation to get color on my name? I wanted someone to bring me burgerville last night. I5 south was moving great it would have been an easy feat

"Here's your plant based $19 burger good luck"
 
Naw just give me 2 double cheeseburgers and some truffle fries. Maybe a marionberry milkshake. Oh and maybe some garlic aioli for my truffle fries!

And I’d love you long time

Whelp there goes the mortgage payment lmao. I kid. But burgerville got expensive af

I moved on to super deluxe. So freaking good
 
Reading up. Man. Glad you local yokals helped each other!
Platy is one of a kind!!!
(Ida helped ya too stren!. ;).. for a reach around).

anyone have the skinny on weather for tomorrow? Hoping my flight doesn't have more delays.
 
I feel like this dude from ODOT has been yelling into the camera for 30+ years and he still sucks
 
Reading up. Man. Glad you local yokals helped each other!
Platy is one of a kind!!!
(Ida helped ya too stren!. ;).. for a reach around).

anyone have the skinny on weather for tomorrow? Hoping my flight doesn't have more delays.

It's supposed to be a few degrees above freezing so afternoon/early evening may be good but Saturday it should mostly be gone.
 
General consensus among truckers:

Other states are little more coordinated
 
Guys, If you need to drive in the snow/ice, first thing to do is get proper snow/ice tires. If you do not have that, try to stay at home.

I believe I told this before, the last real big snow storm we had in Portland when we still lived there was maybe 2007/2008? Had one kid in the Zoo camp for the winter break. My wife' with her all-wheel-drive Subaru were downtown. The snow started coming down, I had a set of Blizzak snow tires I put on my 1991 rear-wheel-drive BMW 318i, put them on, went to bring the kid from the zoo, 26 was a mess so after one stop went off and went over the big steep hill where the big cemetery is above Barnes road? went all the way to the top, started to come down to the zoo, in my rear-wheel-drive car seeing SUVs and Subarus sliding into the ditch at the sides of the road. Got the kid, headed home. My wife's Subaru was stuck downtown. Told her to leave it parked there, pick the toddler from the daycare which was near her office and take the Max. She did that, and I took the older kid in that same RWD car, drove to the Max station and picked them without any issues.

It's all about traction and tires are the most important factor. We do not have much snow here, but we do have a Lexus GX470 SUV with AWD, low range and lockers etc.. we use for desert trips. It had all-season tires on it - and once it got muddy, no matter what I used, it would slide all over. Got a set of Geolander all-terrain tires for it (they are also snow rated, but that's not the main reason for it) - and we have seen gone to the desert during storms and did river crossings with built modified Jeeps... it's traction first.
 
Pouring rain. My toilet blocked. I am usually successful plunging it but this time overflow. Roto Rooter is on the way. Lucia has hairballs.
 
Aren't you required to stop and render assistance if you see an accident?
 
It’s just strange Oregon roads were a disaster and Washington is moving along just fine.

DOT?

Quit making me pay out my ass in taxes if you don’t do shit. Oh and you can take your arts tax and shove it up your ass

How much of that is the population density?

There are no major roads/highways coming from the west in Washington there (like there is with Highway 30, 26, 217), nor is there anything major coming from the east (205, 84), and there's no major population blocks like there is in Portland, in Vancouver (Gresham, Beaverton, Hillsboro, east side of Portland, west side of Portland, south of Portland, etc).

Not denying that ODOT blows monkey dingleberries, but there's a reason why it's harder to keep the roads in Oregon clear. There's like 5x as many people in the Portland area than there is in SW Washington, and it's a safe bet that more of them travel into Oregon than Washington for work. It's like when when you drive into Vancouver it's like 1/3 of the cars disappear. There is a lot more room for the highway to expand, plus there's a ton less people.

But definitely doesn't help that the highways bottleneck and the state and city are hamstrung by a lack of available space to expand the current highway systems or create a new one.
 
At the airport five hours early in hopes of catching any flight. Most flights on the board read delayed.
I thought i read hcp is stuck somewhere too?


anyone else?
 
How much of that is the population density?

There are no major roads/highways coming from the west in Washington there (like there is with Highway 30, 26, 217), nor is there anything major coming from the east (205, 84), and there's no major population blocks like there is in Portland, in Vancouver (Gresham, Beaverton, Hillsboro, east side of Portland, west side of Portland, south of Portland, etc).

Not denying that ODOT blows monkey dingleberries, but there's a reason why it's harder to keep the roads in Oregon clear. There's like 5x as many people in the Portland area than there is in SW Washington, and it's a safe bet that more of them travel into Oregon than Washington for work. It's like when when you drive into Vancouver it's like 1/3 of the cars disappear. There is a lot more room for the highway to expand, plus there's a ton less people.

But definitely doesn't help that the highways bottleneck and the state and city are hamstrung by a lack of available space to expand the current highway systems or create a new one.

Yeah it’s probably a mix of both reasons. Oregon does have more bridges which don’t help the cause with snow. But the completely drastic difference in roads makes me think that one DOT department plans ahead, while the other reacts.
 
It’s so sunny I want to go outside, but the wind chill is fucking ridiculous. Time to smoke and curl up in a ball
 
Yeah it’s probably a mix of both reasons. Oregon does have more bridges which don’t help the cause with snow. But the completely drastic difference in roads makes me think that one DOT department plans ahead, while the other reacts.

The winds coming out of the gorge that often help exacerbate the ice, generally curves south into portland and not north into vancouver, due to the geography of the mountains on the north side of the river, stretching a little further west than the southern ones.
Howd you like that run on sentence?!?
 
Yeah it’s probably a mix of both reasons. Oregon does have more bridges which don’t help the cause with snow. But the completely drastic difference in roads makes me think that one DOT department plans ahead, while the other reacts.

As I alluded to easier, it's much easier to plan ahead when you have a small population/roads to worry about.

And again, I'm not absolving ODOT of being poorly run/mismanaged and underfunded.
 
The winds coming out of the gorge that often help exacerbate the ice, generally curves south into portland and not north into vancouver, due to the geography of the mountains on the north side of the river, stretching a little further west than the southern ones.
Howd you like that run on sentence?!?

I had a talk with a local weather buff a few years back, and they said that plays such a big part of the issue with the accuracy of weather forecasts for Portland/SW Washington.

The gorge/influence of the east wind fucks things up, the Ocean fucks things up and then you have 2 mountain ranges that fucks things up.
 
Sounds like Portland is going to get hit again on Saturday.
 
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