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maxiep said:
I agree and disagree. I agree the pressure is on Goodwin and Riley to find their best offer, not on us. However, I think our return needs to be significantly higher than that. Giving a discount to accommodate Dame is not in our team's best interest, either short- or long-term.
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I think all of us agree with that, but even with the haul other stars have fetched, we’re any of them close to fair value?
 
the history of teams trading their franchise player AFTER he demands a trade is that they have been lucky to get 50 cents on the dollar. Dame is 6'2 and 33 years old. 50 cents my be a pipedream
 
wizenheimer said:
the history of teams trading their franchise player AFTER he demands a trade is that they have been lucky to get 50 cents on the dollar. Dame is 6'2 and 33 years old. 50 cents my be a pipedream
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Bkn did well with Durant. WAS with Wall was pretty light. Harden every time has been pretty good. George from OKC to LAC (slightly different). NOP with AD. I’m pretty happy with the mean or median of all of those …

that’s not even counting the Vucevices, Goberts, Murrays,
 
BrianFromWA said:
Bkn did well with Durant. WAS with Wall was pretty light. Harden every time has been pretty good. George from OKC to LAC (slightly different). NOP with AD. I’m pretty happy with the mean or median of all of those …

that’s not even counting the Vucevices, Goberts, Murrays,
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what you have listed there is essentially a reduced market for superstars. Several teams have already sold off the type of assets Portland wants for Dame. And I get an impression that Brooklyn really isn't that interested in Dame, and has minimal interest in Herro. Maybe, some team will ship out a first for Herro but it will almost certainly have protections

I remain pessimistic about the level of return the Blazers will get for Dame. All this chatter about 5-6 first round picks/swaps and young prospects looks like wishful thinking to me.
 
We better get Jovic and Jaquez in this. If we don’t get that at least this is complete bullshit. Didn’t the commish veto Paul to the LAL for poor compensation?
 
LayneStaley said:
We better get Jovic and Jaquez in this. If we don’t get that at least this is complete bullshit. Didn’t the commish veto Paul to the LAL for poor compensation?
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At the time the Commish was the care-taker of the New Orleans franchise. That's not the case for Portland's franchise now. There is no chance he will block any kind of legal trade done under the CBA.
 
TBpup said:
Was just going to post that. LOVE that movie. Visited his 'home' in the Tuscan hills from the movie. Amazing place just below the city of Pienza.
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What movie is that? Gladiator?
 
RonBrewer said:
I think the longer this goes on the more the National media jump in and say it's going to take awhile and Dame needs to open up other destinations
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Yeah it's not going to mesh with those ads on TV highlighting what an outlier/rogue Dame is. He is demanding a trade to a single superteam. Seems quite diva-like to me. Just like KD, Harden, Kyrie etc.
 
Blazers must do right by Dame.
If they send him where he doesn’t want be he will not go into HOF as a Blazer and forget about any statue or him wanting to live here in iff season.
Miami with Spo is where he needs to go.
They have enough to give us a decent deal.
Thanks again Dame!
 
If we don’t get a haul worth a damn for him will it be back to the old, “our fan base just overvalued him all along” schtick like when we got an awful return for CJ?

If we would’ve just shopped him mid season last year, I think we could’ve gotten way more value. Trading in the NBA is all about leverage.
 
Hoopguru said:
Blazers must do right by Dame.
If they send him where he doesn’t want be he will not go into HOF as a Blazer and forget about any statue or him wanting to live here in iff season.
Miami with Spo is where he needs to go.
They have enough to give us a decent deal.
Thanks again Dame!
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I don’t agree one bit. Cronin needs to do what’s best for the team and its future. His career as a GM is on the line. While Lillard was an awesome Blazer, one of my faves. The Blazers winning means more than a statue or him living here in the offseason.

We’re acting like he won a title here or something.

Oh, also, this damn sell of the team needs to go down ASAP
 
MickZagger said:
If we don’t get a haul worth a damn for him will it be back to the old, “our fan base just overvalued him all along” schtick like when we got an awful return for CJ?
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it was a good return for CJ, not awful. The problem was how grossly overrated CJ's value was in sections of Blazer Nation
 
Hoopguru said:
Blazers must do right by Dame.
If they send him where he doesn’t want be he will not go into HOF as a Blazer and forget about any statue or him wanting to live here in iff season.
Miami with Spo is where he needs to go.
They have enough to give us a decent deal.
Thanks again Dame!
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Please tell me this post was meant to be in green font.
 
MickZagger said:
If we don’t get a haul worth a damn for him will it be back to the old, “our fan base just overvalued him all along” schtick like when we got an awful return for CJ?

If we would’ve just shopped him mid season last year, I think we could’ve gotten way more value. Trading in the NBA is all about leverage.
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There's nothing that doesn't say we can't wait until the trade deadline this season. Tell him to prove his value. If he plays like he's capable, he'll up his value. Teams at the TD tend to be more flexible as they realize whether things are working or not.
 
Nobody but Heat fans think MIA has a decent deal. You realize don’t you if Riley were in Joe’s shoes he would take the best possible deal. Pat let Lebron walk when we wanted Spo gone. He refused the demand of the Goat. Joe is well within his job duty to get the best deal.
 
maxiep said:
Please tell me this post was meant to be in green font.
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No sir....I really believe we need to do right by Dame.
Im sure we will end up with a decent pkg...
Joe could have prevented this from happening, he's just too naive still when it comes to making trades.
He is playing to his strengths which is young players and cap. Thats cool....buy I'd like top see Dame end up where he'd like if its within reason.
 
Hoopguru said:
No sir....I really believe we need to do right by Dame.
Im sure we will end up with a decent pkg...
Joe could have prevented this from happening, he's just too naive still when it comes to making trades.
He is playing to his strengths which is young players and cap. Thats cool....buy I'd like top see Dame end up where he'd like if its within reason.
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We disagree.
 
I could not care less if Dame gets what he wants. He got paid. That is POR obligation. All his endorsements etc are because of POR. In fact I have to put this garbage on ignore. Just no logic to it
 
Cugel said:
Nobody but Heat fans think MIA has a decent deal. You realize don’t you if Riley were in Joe’s shoes he would take the best possible deal. Pat let Lebron walk when we wanted Spo gone. He refused the demand of the Goat. Joe is well within his job duty to get the best deal.
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Hollinger and Zach Lowe called the offer (of value for Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, two or three firsts, and filler as needed) "good" and "palatable", respectively, on Lowe's podcast today.

Both agreed that it wasn't the best deal possible, probably, and they both thought Miami might not have to give all that up if they think they can get Dame without doing so.

They also talked about other trade options for almost an hour, so they don't perceive it as a done deal.

 
maxiep said:
We disagree.
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I realize that Im probably in the minority but thats cool. And I certainly respect yours and others opinions.
I have a bunch of grandkids that want Dame playing with Jimmy Butler if we can't keep him here. They grew up with Dame and love that he's a great person first. They will get excited about Shae, Scoot and others also.
Id love for them to someday watch him go into HOF as a Blazer.
 
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