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OneSport3 said:
This is a honest question for Stotts supporters. This is his 12th season as a head coach and 8th season for the Blazers. He’s been a career .500 regular season coach and below.500 playoff coach.

Full disclosure, I am not a supporter of Stotts and have wanted to part ways with him for quite some time now. My question is how much longer do you give Stotts as head coach and what would it take to move on from him?
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Stotts has a career record at .511 and .560 as Portland's head coach so let's start by getting that right. His playoff record is .333 and his Portland playoff record is .355.
I don't see where you could call him a career .500 regular season coach especially while at Portland.
I think his stats would be even better if he coached in a city where there was more draw for an up and coming player who wanted to make more money from advertising and get more attention and glamour.
I'm not a hot and cold kind of guy. I'm a big supporter of my team 24/7 every year and especially when they get us into the playoffs and they get us into the playoffs plenty.
 
hoopsjock said:
1) This is BS. Anyone who says GS had a championship roster when they hired Kerr is full of crap. They hadn't even accomplished as much as the Blazer have. Also, how many people picked the Raptors to win the championship last year?

2) Why is it luck? Just because you hadn't heard of Nick Nurse doesn't mean it was luck. He might be the best coach in the NBA right now.


GS had made the playoffs two years in a row when they fired Jackson. They had the most success in a long time under him. Kerr had zero coaching experience.
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Kerr was one of the worst NBA players I've ever seen. He was totally one dimensional. Every time I look at him I think 'Loser'.
 
Tince said:
I would expect this to be the case with our next coach as well.
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Depends on how it looks.
It doesn't just boil down to wins/losses. It's how you play and how you lose.

I watched NBA teams with little talent fighting hard on both ends, timeouts being taken at the right time, adjustments being made on time,ball is moving around and yet they lost. I won't be complaining about the coach if we had anything like that.
 
kjironman1 said:
May would be when Coaches in general start getting fired. There could be a good one available or a good assistant coach looking to move up?
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When coaches in general start getting fired is when coaches in general start getting hired. This means more coaches are available and simultaneously more coaches are in demand. I wouldn't bet the farm on getting a great coach in May unless you've got money to burn.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Depends on how it looks.
It doesn't just boil down to wins/losses. It's how you play and how you lose.

I watched NBA teams with little talent fighting hard on both ends, timeouts being taken at the right time, adjustments being made on time,ball is moving around and yet they lost. I won't be complaining about the coach if we had anything like that.
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I may have missed you saying it earlier, but based on what you're saying, is it safe for me to assume you think Portland has had one of the most talented rosters in the NBA the last few seasons?
 
Lanny said:
Stotts has a career record at .511 and .560 as Portland's head coach so let's start by getting that right. His playoff record is .333 and his Portland playoff record is .355.
I don't see where you could call him a career .500 regular season coach especially while at Portland.
I think his stats would be even better if he coached in a city where there was more draw for an up and coming player who wanted to make more money from advertising and get more attention and glamour.
I'm not a hot and cold kind of guy. I'm a big supporter of my team 24/7 every year and especially when they get us into the playoffs and they get us into the playoffs plenty.
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Is this post serious?
 
Tince said:
I may have missed you saying it earlier, but based on what you're saying, is it safe for me to assume you think Portland has had one of the most talented rosters in the NBA the last few seasons?
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No. We were a 2nd tier team at best. 3rd tier before Nurkic.
We had a relative advantage with our starting backcourt and Nurkic was a band-aid for our defense in the paint and our predictable offense because he looked to find the open guy instead of just taking his turn.

If you don't have a top 5 player you're not really a contender.
 
Blazers Roy said:
No. We were a 2nd tier team at best. 3rd tier before Nurkic.
We had a relative advantage with our starting backcourt and Nurkic was a band-aid for our defense in the paint and our predictable offense because he looked to find the open guy instead of just taking his turn.

If you don't have a top 5 player you're not really a contender.
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Very well said.

For those reasons, it's hard for me to be to be upset with a coach who got a 3rd tier team to the WCF last year. Now, if we end up having two straight seasons like this year had started out, I'll probably be closer to you on wanting a change on the bench (and in the front office).
 
Tince said:
Very well said.

For those reasons, it's hard for me to be to be upset with a coach who got a 3rd tier team to the WCF last year. Now, if we end up having two straight seasons like this year had started out, I'll probably be closer to you on wanting a change on the bench (and in the front office).
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McMillan needed to be fired first, and an assistant for a while to get there. Stotts needs to have the same experience. I doubt he'll change regardless.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Ok but Kerr has 8, and played his role well... you dont just luck into 8 championships... Robert Horry didnt just suck his way into rings either.
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Seems fake.
Kobe lucked himself into his rings.
Orlando trying to underpay the most dominate big man of an era. Then being gifted one of the most skilled bigs ever and arguably the best big at the time in Pau.
100% luck.
Without those two Kobe is a poor man's Vince Carter.

Fight me.
 
H.C. said:
Seems fake.
Kobe lucked himself into his rings.
Orlando trying to underpay the most dominate big man of an era. Then being gifted one of the most skilled bigs ever and arguably the best big at the time in Pau.
100% luck.
Without those two Kobe is a poor man's Vince Carter.

Fight me.
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Ok but not today, Im tired. Lol
 
Tince said:
Very well said.

For those reasons, it's hard for me to be to be upset with a coach who got a 3rd tier team to the WCF last year. Now, if we end up having two straight seasons like this year had started out, I'll probably be closer to you on wanting a change on the bench (and in the front office).
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Sometimes you have to use your eyes and watch games to know if a team is getting wins because of the coach or in spite of the coach.

Stotts threw the last game of the season away last year, by dumb luck he stumbled into that seeding.
Lillard made the craziest buzzer beater i've ever seen to get rid of OKC, by dumb luck Stotts ran away with that series. He didnt drew some kind of an elaborate play to win it all lol.

Would you like to talk about a coach who got swept by a lower seed with HCA just the year before?
 
Blazers Roy said:
Sometimes you have to use your eyes and watch games to know if a team is getting wins because of the coach or in spite of the coach.

Stotts threw the last game of the season away last year, by dumb luck he stumbled into that seeding.
Lillard made the craziest buzzer beater i've ever seen to get rid of OKC, by dumb luck Stotts ran away with that series. He didnt drew some kind of an elaborate play to win it all lol.

Would you like to talk about a coach who got swept by a lower seed with HCA just the year before?
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I'm assuming you think Olshey is an idiot as well because he doesn't use his eyes to watch games?

Stotts got totally out-coached against the NOP in that series, no question about it. I have to give him some credit if his 3rd tier team (by your definition) gets to the WCF's. It's hard to win best of seven-series by dumb luck. What measurable outcome could a Stotts coached team have where you would give him credit?
 
Blazers Roy said:
Sometimes you have to use your eyes and watch games to know if a team is getting wins because of the coach or in spite of the coach.

Stotts threw the last game of the season away last year, by dumb luck he stumbled into that seeding.
Lillard made the craziest buzzer beater i've ever seen to get rid of OKC, by dumb luck Stotts ran away with that series. He didnt drew some kind of an elaborate play to win it all lol.

Would you like to talk about a coach who got swept by a lower seed with HCA just the year before?
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As great as that shot was by Dame, it was tied, the series was 3-1, they won 4-1. I have my issues with Stotts but the narrative that they win because of Dame and in spite of Stotts, and lose only because of Stotts just seems like a bunch of absolutes, where absolutes wont always hold course.

Stotts has definitely been out coached in the playoffs by Kerr and Gentry.
 
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TorturedBlazerFan said:
As great as that shot was by Dame, it was tied, the series was 3-1, they won 4-1. I have my issues with Stotts but the narrative that they win because of Dame and in spite of Stotts, and lose only because of Stotts is just seems like a bunch of absolutes, where absolutes wont always hold course.

Stotts has definitely been out coached in the playoffs by Kerr and Gentry.
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Well said!

I have a hard time saying if Stotts got out coached by Kerr because we're talking about a team with 3-4 all-stars beating a team with 1. The Warriors front office built a far superior team, so to get beat by them was zero surprise to me. The NOP series, that's a different story, and I thought Stotts got totally out-coached.
 
Tince said:
Well said!

I have a hard time saying if Stotts got out coached by Kerr because we're talking about a team with 3-4 all-stars beating a team with 1. The Warriors front office built a far superior team, so to get beat by them was zero surprise to me. The NOP series, that's a different story, and I thought Stotts got totally out-coached.
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Superior team or not, the Blazers are something like 1-16 vs GS / Kerr, a great playoff coach would have figured out how to pull out a few of those. Doesnt mean great coaches dont get swept here or there, but thats pretty extreme...
 
We got swept in the Golden State series because of coaching. The horrible scheme in game 1, the lack of backside rotation afterwards due to us only running the scheme we ran in game 1, the lack of timeouts during a Golden State 18-2 run... etc. To the people thatre talking about "Well, GS had 3 or 4 all stars we had 1", just watch what happens on the floor.
 
BonesJones said:
We got swept in the Golden State series because of coaching. The horrible scheme in game 1, the lack of backside rotation afterwards due to us only running the scheme we ran in game 1, the lack of timeouts during a Golden State 18-2 run... etc. To the people thatre talking about "Well, GS had 3 or 4 all stars we had 1", just watch what happens on the floor.
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They lost cause of rebounding and lack of getting back on defense how many times are they going to let a rebound lead to a fast break 3 or and one because half the team is jogging back... Maybe without Nurk and Kanter with one arm rebounding was a lost cause, but still they sprint back on defense and pick up the ball they win at least a couple of those games. Instead they made it look like Gs (especially Draymond) wanted it more, and while its on the Players to get back, my guess is most coaches wouldve been losing their minds over that and really laying into the team, but it didnt seem like Stotts ever did.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
They lost cause of rebounding and lack of getting back on defense how many times are they going to let a rebound lead to a fast break 3 or and one because half the team is jogging back... Maybe without Nurk and Kanter with one arm rebounding was a lost cause, but still they sprint back on defense and pick up the ball they win at least a couple of those games. Instead they made it look like Gs (especially Draymond) wanted it more, and while its on the Players to get back, my guess is most coaches wouldve been losing their minds over that and really laying into the team, but it didnt seem like Stotts ever did.
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Yes, that on top of what I was talking about.
 
BonesJones said:
We got swept in the Golden State series because of coaching. The horrible scheme in game 1, the lack of backside rotation afterwards due to us only running the scheme we ran in game 1, the lack of timeouts during a Golden State 18-2 run... etc. To the people thatre talking about "Well, GS had 3 or 4 all stars we had 1", just watch what happens on the floor.
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Do you think Golden St and Portland's talent levels were comparable?
 
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