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illmatic99 said:
Stotts is an average coach. He is inflexible to a fault and doesn't hold his players accountable. And his preparation and inspiration leaves a lot to be desired. And let's not even go to the pace with which he makes changes.

But the players like him and respond to his mild-mannered nature. That's half the battle. Prolly has a lot to do with the culture Dame sets, but Stotts should get some credit for that as well.

I've long advocated for a change since Stotts doesn't have the resume of a Pop or Spo or Carlisle to warrant this kind of longevity. And a change of voice is not necessarily a bad thing. Dame, especially I felt could have had a different coach to make him more versatile and knowledgeable but what to do. That Terry contract extension is killer.
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Stotts isn't mild mannered. Now, Maurice Cheeks was mild mannered.
 
CupWizier said:
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There's nothing quite like a great root beer. The best I've ever had was home made. Today, the best I can find is IBC.
You're talking to a long standing root beer aficionado, my friend.
While we're on it, what tastes better than a good root beer float? Not a thing!
 
Terry Stotts said:
Me and the boys use to crush beers down at the Thunderbird while listeningg to this one - sure brings back memories! Well, the boys would crush beers I only ever crushed rootbeers.
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I remember that hotel and restaurant. I took my fiance and future ex wife there for our first martini straight up in any place that served alcohol before dinner. No, I have no idea what we ate for dinner, it must have been 50 years ago.
 
Here’s another question/angle: If Stotts was fired this season, would anyone be outraged or disappointed?
 
kjironman1 said:
Because beating them took way too long.
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What's different about winning regular season games and winning playoff games? It can't be the Xs and Os. It must have something to do with locker room talk.
 
OneSport3 said:
Here’s another question/angle: If Stotts was fired this season, would anyone be outraged or disappointed?
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Personally I would not be outraged. Ultimately it comes down to who we replace him with that would determine if I'm dissapointed. Firing Dunleavy didn't bother me, but replacing him with Mo Cheeks did.
 
Lanny said:
What's different about winning regular season games and winning playoff games? It can't be the Xs and Os. It must have something to do with locker room talk.
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This is a narrative that is very popular in the sports talk circles. Just about every "Great" analyst has this statement in his repertoire. "He's a good regular season coach but he doesn't do well in the Playoffs". Kind of falls in the same lines as " He is a great player but couldn't win a Championship" group.
 
OneSport3 said:
Here’s another question/angle: If Stotts was fired this season, would anyone be outraged or disappointed?
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Heck no? Stotts has had a good run. If they decided to fire him and get another coach i'd be supportive. Don't think it's gonna happen but who knows?
 
Tince said:
Personally I would not be outraged. Ultimately it comes down to who we replace him with that would determine if I'm dissapointed. Firing Dunleavy didn't bother me, but replacing him with Mo Cheeks did.
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That's just it, posters act like firing Stotts automatically makes us a better team. Just like with a trade, unless the team performs better then it doesn't make it a good deal.
 
CupWizier said:
That's just it, posters act like firing Stotts automatically makes us a better team. Just like with a trade, unless the team performs better then it doesn't make it a good deal.
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Come on man, he has been here 8 years... why is it wrong for a fan to want to see something different when team is not performing. Does he deserve a lifetime contract because of one decent run in playoffs?
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
Come on man, he has been here 8 years... why is it wrong for a fan to want to see something different when team is not performing. Does he deserve a lifetime contract because of one decent run in playoffs?
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Do you feel the same way about Olshey and Dame for that matter?
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
Come on man, he has been here 8 years... why is it wrong for a fan to want to see something different when team is not performing. Does he deserve a lifetime contract because of one decent run in playoffs?
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Why are you making stuff up as I never said or even alluded to anything you said. All I said is that bringing in a new coach doesn't automatically bring success. Do you need examples Mo cough cough Cheeks.
 
CupWizier said:
Why are you making stuff up as I never said or even alluded to anything you said. All I said is that bringing in a new coach doesn't automatically bring success. Do you need examples Mo cough cough Cheeks.
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What did I make up? I’m commenting on your post that firing Stotts doesn’t make us a better team. What’s wrong with trying something different? I think Stotts is pretty well known by fans after 8 years.
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
What did I make up? I’m commenting on your post that firing Stotts doesn’t make us a better team. What’s wrong with trying something different? I think Stotts is pretty well known by fans after 8 years.
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Because it doesn't always work out for the better. I think it would be foolish to fire him during the season. Look at how many coaches Minnesota, Sacramento, Knicks etc have gone through. Did it make them better? Let's use the Sunss for example. During Stotts 8 years here they have had 5 different head coaches, multiple lottery picks and yet they are still behind us in the standings. Another example is the Kings. 5 coaches in the same time Stotts has been here as well as multiple lottery picks and all last year I heard how exciting and up and coming they are and yet, here they are still behind the Blazers. I have never said a coaching change won't happen as like a poster pointed lout the average length of a coach is about 2.5 years in one place, but there are no guarantees it will be successful the first or even the second time.

By the way, my support lies with the team, not a coach.
 
Lanny said:
There's nothing quite like a great root beer. The best I've ever had was home made. Today, the best I can find is IBC.
You're talking to a long standing root beer aficionado, my friend.
While we're on it, what tastes better than a good root beer float? Not a thing!
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try and get this out of your head:


 
CupWizier said:
Because it doesn't always work out for the better. I think it would be foolish to fire him during the season. Look at how many coaches Minnesota, Sacramento, Knicks etc have gone through. Did it make them better? Let's use the Sunss for example. During Stotts 8 years here they have had 5 different head coaches, multiple lottery picks and yet they are still behind us in the standings. Another example is the Kings. 5 coaches in the same time Stotts has been here as well as multiple lottery picks and all last year I heard how exciting and up and coming they are and yet, here they are still behind the Blazers. I have never said a coaching change won't happen as like a poster pointed lout the average length of a coach is about 2.5 years in one place, but there are no guarantees it will be successful the first or even the second time.

By the way, my support lies with the team, not a coach.
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Obviously it doesn’t always work for the better, but many of us believe this team wins because of Dame and in spite of Stotts. In that case, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain by trying a new coach.
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
Obviously it doesn’t always work for the better, but many of us believe this team wins because of Dame and in spite of Stotts. In that case, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain by trying a new coach.
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Did you just include Dame and Olshey as part of the problem just a few posts ago? Now you're saying Dame is so good he's winning in spite of Stotts. Which is it?
 
Tince said:
Did you just include Dame and Olshey as part of the problem just a few posts ago? Now you're saying Dame is so good he's winning in spite of Stotts. Which is it?
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Where did I include Dame as the problem??! Everything I post has been about building a different team around Dame. Why are you making this up?
 
kjironman1 said:
I agree to a point.
My opinion is players on teams win games. The whole team wins and loses.
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And coaches lose us the game.

We win in spite of stotts, we lose because of stotts. Its very obvious, and more people are waking up to this idea. Im just glad ive been on the right side this whole time.
 
Strenuus said:
And coaches lose us the game.

We win in spite of stotts, we lose because of stotts. Its very obvious, and more people are waking up to this idea. Im just glad ive been on the right side this whole time.
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And i disagree and know many that do as well.
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
Where did I include Dame as the problem??! Everything I post has been about building a different team around Dame. Why are you making this up?
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Earlier I asked you if you felt the same about Olshey and Dame. You quoted me (and now I see you removed the Dame part of my question) and said "Yes".
 
Tince said:
Earlier I asked you if you felt the same about Olshey and Dame. You quoted me (and now I see you removed the Dame part of my question) and said "Yes".
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Dame was never in your quote... I did not remove anything.
 
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