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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Jul 4 2006, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JustBlaze, you can't debate with anyone if you always think you're right and can't listen to what they say either.</div>That's not it at all, no one listens to my point about scientists having to prove everything, and that's what was pissing me off. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 4 2006, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess you would have to. The part that bothers me is that people say that things can be attributed to God, whether it be complexity of the world, our bodies, the distance from the sun, or whatever. But how is someone supposed to take them seriously when they attribute EVERYTHING to God (even the things that a complete douchebag would do, like wipe out New Orleans)? Maybe it's just me that finds it silly, I don't know.</div>This isn't supposed to be a perfect world, that's why those things happens. It's a harsh world, a test to see if we are worthy for Heaven, or our next life. If everything here was perfect then the concept of Heaven and Hell wouldn't be necessary. If nothing bad ever happened then everyone would believe that a god is in control.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This isn't supposed to be a perfect world, that's why those things happens. It's a harsh world, a test to see if we are worthy for Heaven, or our next life. If everything here was perfect then the concept of Heaven and Hell wouldn't be necessary. If nothing bad ever happened then everyone would believe that a god is in control.</div>Why doesn't god just use his power to find out if everyone is good or not? If he's almighty then why does he waste his own time giving people tests when he already knows the answers. And I thought god wanted everyone to believe he is in control.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 4 2006, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It seemed as though you implied it. I mean, a summary of your first post would be, "How can you not believe in God? The Big Bang is retarded!" The logical train of thought there seems to be that if you don't believe in God, you must believe in the Big Bang. That's why I brought it up. It has nothing to do with misreading, either.I guess you would have to. The part that bothers me is that people say that things can be attributed to God, whether it be complexity of the world, our bodies, the distance from the sun, or whatever. But how is someone supposed to take them seriously when they attribute EVERYTHING to God (even the things that a complete douchebag would do, like wipe out New Orleans)? Maybe it's just me that finds it silly, I don't know.And you wonder why people don't believe you when you claim to be a genius.
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</div>Who said people don't believe I'm a genius? Maybe some people try to think around it, but most people who know me IRL know I'm a genius. Sorry if I don't seem like a genius when I talk about basketball. You don't sound like a genius talking about the Big bang either. I'm more wise and intelligent than a genius anyways. What do you know about the real world you book-worm? No one is smart when they're on God's side, because there is limited proof. It's all faith.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Jul 4 2006, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why doesn't god just use his power to find out if everyone is good or not? If he's almighty then why does he waste his own time giving people tests when he already knows the answers. And I thought god wanted everyone to believe he is in control.</div>But see, he wants some dickwads like you in hell also.
 
JustBlaze, if you believe in god ssoo much then why are you always cussing at people?
 
Im aethiest, I just don't believe in God, who or what created it ?I try not to think about it too much as it can get really weird.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not it at all, no one listens to my point about scientists having to prove everything, and that's what was pissing me off.</div>You do know that the term "theory" inherently means it's not fact, right?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This isn't supposed to be a perfect world, that's why those things happens. It's a harsh world, a test to see if we are worthy for Heaven, or our next life. If everything here was perfect then the concept of Heaven and Hell wouldn't be necessary. If nothing bad ever happened then everyone would believe that a god is in control.</div>I realize that. Like I said, I was a Christian for a long time. I'm not ignorant of the idea. My point isn't really that God shouldn't let bad things happen. It was that Christians (especially) like to attribute everything to him. It doesn't prove or disprove that there's a god, but it gets old when everything from life to death to pissing in the backyard is mandated by God. It discredits someone who is trying to make a rational and coherent statement. I'm explaining my reasoning, here.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who said people don't believe I'm a genius? Maybe some people try to think around it, but most people who know me IRL know I'm a genius. Sorry if I don't seem like a genius when I talk about basketball. You don't sound like a genius talking about the Big bang either. I'm more wise and intelligent than a genius anyways. What do you know about the real world you book-worm? No one is smart when they're on God's side, because there is limited proof. It's all faith.</div>I didn't say there wasn't anybody who thinks you're a genius. There are obviously some people who think you aren't, though. And when you make a idiotic comment like "I would read, but I just don't care what your bisexiential (bi sexual + science lol) theory is." it definitely doesn't make you look like a genius. I don't know you in real life, but if you are the genius you claim to be, it really doesn't translate well when you type.Calling me a book-worm doesn't mean anything to me. What did I say about the Big Bang that was incorrect? When did I claim to be a genius? How do you even know what I said about the Big Bang when you didn't even read it? Nothing you say makes sense. And please, don't talk to me about the real world... you're like what? 12? Go get banned from the forums and stop bothering me.Edit: Apparently Airblaze is the big 1-5! Boy, do I feel silly!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But see, he wants some dickwads like you in hell also.</div>Ok, now I see. And you assume that you'll "get into heaven" right. I'm sure your short temper and "Shut up fu*kface" type of response to every opinion that differs from yours won't stop that.BTW, you completely ignored my question. Do you have an answer to it?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 4 2006, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You do know that the term "theory" inherently means it's not fact, right?I realize that. Like I said, I was a Christian for a long time. I'm not ignorant of the idea. My point isn't really that God shouldn't let bad things happen. It was that Christians (especially) like to attribute everything to him. It doesn't prove or disprove that there's a god, but it gets old when everything from life to death to pissing in the backyard is mandated by God. It discredits someone who is trying to make a rational and coherent statement. I'm explaining my reasoning, here.I didn't say there wasn't anybody who thinks you're a genius. There are obviously some people who think you aren't, though. And when you make a idiotic comment like "I would read, but I just don't care what your bisexiential (bi sexual + science lol) theory is." it definitely doesn't make you look like a genius. I don't know you in real life, but if you are the genius you claim to be, it really doesn't translate well when you type.Calling me a book-worm doesn't mean anything to me. What did I say about the Big Bang that was incorrect? When did I claim to be a genius? How do you even know what I said about the Big Bang when you didn't even read it? Nothing you say makes sense. And please, don't talk to me about the real world... you're like what? 12? Go get banned from the forums and stop bothering me.Edit: Apparently Airblaze is the big 1-5! Boy, do I feel silly!</div>Apparently Justice is the big 2-0. Still on forums?The Bisexential thing was a joke, retard. The big bang theory is false, anyways. It has many flaws.
 
There are many older people on forums. This is one of the few sites were nearly all the members are teens. Most of the forums i've been on have older people than Justice.
 
That doesn't make them different from him...
 
What, older people aren't allowed to use the internet and talk about sports...yeah...Most successful forums with the best sports talk are with adults. You could say the same thing about us kids that we should be out playing sports or doing stuff with friends instead of spending all the time on the internet. It doesen't make a difference what age you are.I'm sure Justice is an ugly loser without a job and the best part of his day is when he can get on BBW for half an hour and make 12 posts.
 
No, but he shouldn't call me out for being 15. If he can call me out for being young, I can call him out for being older. And you're probably right about his day :happy0144: (I know you said that sarcastically)
 
Yes you are right. I hate when people do that too since I'm a kid.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Bisexential thing was a joke, retard. The big bang theory is false, anyways. It has many flaws.</div>Jokes are supposed to actually be funny. I never said the big bang theory was true.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Jul 4 2006, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes you are right. I hate when people do that too since I'm a kid.</div>The difference is you don't post dumb illogical fodder all over the place. Any kid that posts that crap and tries to call me out about real life when they've barely hit puberty needs a little reality check. Pfft.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (streetshox23 @ Jul 4 2006, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JustBlaze, if you believe in god ssoo much then why are you always cussing at people?</div>I believe in God, I never said I'm a good Christian because I'm not at all, but I still believe it.
 
I believe god is just a non-existant image used by humans to explain things. I don't believe in god, i believe in evolution.I'll post more of my beliefs and reasons later, it's too late right now, and it's been a while since i've talked about this. I'm a very controversial guy jsyk,\ most of the time i would just keep my mouth shut.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jonesboyz @ Jul 4 2006, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I believe god is just a non-existant image used by humans to explain things. I don't believe in god, i believe in evolution.I'll post more of my beliefs and reasons later, it's too late right now, and it's been a while since i've talked about this. I'm a very controversial guy jsyk,\ most of the time i would just keep my mouth shut.</div>You're gonna like this section of the forum then :dribble:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jonesboyz @ Jul 5 2006, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I believe god is just a non-existant image used by humans to explain things. I don't believe in god, i believe in evolution.I'll post more of my beliefs and reasons later, it's too late right now, and it's been a while since i've talked about this. I'm a very controversial guy jsyk,\ most of the time i would just keep my mouth shut.</div>Care to give me a detailed explanation of how the universe was created then?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 5 2006, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jokes are supposed to actually be funny. I never said the big bang theory was true.The difference is you don't post dumb illogical fodder all over the place. Any kid that posts that crap and tries to call me out about real life when they've barely hit puberty needs a little reality check. Pfft.</div>Wow you must've been a little girl if you just hit puberty when you were 15
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Jul 4 2006, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Care to give me a detailed explanation of how the universe was created then?</div>Goddamn, let it rest. No one knows why the universe was created, but there's detailed proof to the Big Bang theory, a hell of a lot more proof than creationism.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Jul 5 2006, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow you must've been a little girl if you just hit puberty when you were 15
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</div>He was talking about you.
 
I guess the Universe was created in 7 days by a big being for nothing, :no3: I doubt it
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Jul 5 2006, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Goddamn, let it rest. No one knows why the universe was created, but there's detailed proof to the Big Bang theory, a hell of a lot more proof than creationism.He was talking about you.</div>I know this. He said I barely hit puberty. If he thinks that he must have hit puberty at age 15 when most people hit puberty around 12-13.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Jul 5 2006, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know this. He said I barely hit puberty. If he thinks that he must have hit puberty at age 15 when most people hit puberty around 12-13.</div>He was joking. You're not supposed to analyze jokes.
 
It's harder, in my opinion, to believe in God than it is not to. For that reason alone I think a lot of people are drawn away from him and religion. Most people are under the impression that religion is a lot of work. Is it sad? You bet. It is true? You bet.Do I believe in God? I don't know. I'm not a religious person at all. I don't go to chuch and I don't read the bible. I don't pray at night and I don't know all the special holidays.I have no clue how the earth was created and neither do any of us. I think it would be best if we all stopped acting like we knew what happened and instead started to open our eyes so maybe we can paint a picture of what we THINK happened. None of us are right or wrong so arguing about something so vast is stupid.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Jul 5 2006, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He was joking. You're not supposed to analyze jokes.</div>Oh, there's a rule now? Dude you need to shut up your mouth seriously.
 
I think all of you guys really need to just cool it. You guys are taking a joke and a post way too seriously. It's gotten to the point where it has hijacked the thread and the topic is no longer being discussed. This really isn't a productive thread anymore because of it. I'm not a moderator and I'm not your daddy, but I'm asking you to stop because it is childish and unappealing.
 
I have no idea how the universe was created. The explosion makes more sense to me than some big guy in a white robe who created the universe by working his magic.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Jul 7 2006, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, there's a rule now? Dude you need to shut up your mouth seriously.</div> If I see anything like this again your not allowed to post in this board. This is it. All the puberty jokes and bickering ends now or this topic is locked.
 
Well im jerwish and i very much beileve in it. People are idiots. Read the torah or aka for you knows as the bible. people are starting to find things that relate to it. Like people say they found noahs arc or hyrogliphics about these things. I mean do you guys really think that this was from no god? you think that all our body parts and the world and out lives were just put together randomly? there had to be something behind it and tahts god. And with jesus no offense but come on the guy was a jew himself you guys cant beileve that hes gods son or god himself
 
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