How close do you think we are?

[MarAzul]

Kind of Close.

Need to change starting Centers. I am Not sure where we are with SG. I don't see the Forceful team leader on the roster that can will the team to perform. Batum in particular would benefit from
such a leader on the floor. Then I don't say this to piss anyone off, but we were is sad shape at the PG position during this last series and much of the last half of the season. This must be corrected before the team can progress. However, a strong team leader or a strong coach could correct Lillard and Batum. So we have a part missing. And then again it could be worse
than I think when I think of Curry smoking Lillard in a head to head.

 

[blue9]

Wes and Nic are too similar on offense IMO

Sadly, I agree. I think both can (and do) play their role well. Each of them provides something that championship teams need. Unfortunately, what they provide is too similar. We could make it work with both of them if we had someone like Cousins at C and Ibaka at PF, and model the team in the style of the most recent championship Pistons. But if we're going to hitch our wagon to LMA (ugh) we need one wing who can create his own high-percentage offense. Given Wes' injury I think I might lean towards keeping Nic. Unfortunately there aren't many great SGs these days - we're certainly not going to find a better SG than pre-injury Wes. And that's why we're not at all close to winning a championship.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

So sign him and make him the #2 or #3 option. Still not a bad piece to the puzzle. I do agree with El Presidente in that we need a DeRosan type player on the wing who can attack the rim. Add that and we are close....if we keep LMA.

DeRozan type would mean low-IQ slasher with a tendency to shoot bad shots, right? Well, Gerald Green probably can be had this summer for under 8 mil a year.

 

[blue9]

DeRozan type would mean low-IQ slasher with a tendency to shoot bad shots, right? Well, Gerald Green probably can be had this summer for under 8 mil a year.

Yeah, I don't see DeRozan making us a better team. At best it's a lateral move (exchange offense for defense+), but more likely to be a step backwards.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Yeah, I don't see DeRozan making us a better team. At best it's a lateral move (exchange offense for defense+), but more likely to be a step backwards.

I think a better move would be to sign a guy like Danny Green (may be out of our price range) or Iman Shumpert (Might be able to give enough for the Cavs to let him walk).

 

[blue9]

I think a better move would be to sign a guy like Danny Green (may be out of our price range) or Iman Shumpert (Might be able to give enough for the Cavs to let him walk).

As 6th man?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

As 6th man?

Starting two, but starting two in the sense that Thabo was when he was good in OKC, we have our 6th man in CJ (Jason Terry type minutes from the Dallas years, so like 30-32 minutes).

 

[blue9]

Starting two, but starting two in the sense that Thabo was when he was good in OKC, we have our 6th man in CJ (Jason Terry type minutes from the Dallas years, so like 30-32 minutes).

Meh. Neither is as good as pre-injury Wes. And I'd place my bet on post-injury Wes being better than Shump, and probably Green too.

 

[magnifier661]

DeRozan type would mean low-IQ slasher with a tendency to shoot bad shots, right? Well, Gerald Green probably can be had this summer for under 8 mil a year.

I'd actually be very open to that

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Meh. Neither is as good as pre-injury Wes. And I'd place my bet on post-injury Wes being better than Shump, and probably Green too.

I disagree, I think Green is already better than Wes. Green is every bit the hound dog that Wes is on D, and he is a WAY better shooter.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'd actually be very open to that

As our starting 2 though? With LA on the floor? Poor Dame and Batum would never get the ball.

 

[magnifier661]

As our starting 2 though? With LA on the floor? Poor Dame and Batum would never get the ball.

Not as a two. Back up 3

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Not as a two. Back up 3

Just my opinion... but backup 3 needs to be a Spot up Shooter (Dunleavy) or a lockdown defender (Aminu). I don't think CJ and Green would do well together.

I loved Green and wanted him last season, then I started watching Suns games... That didn't involve playing us lol

 

[Pinwheel1]

DeRozan type would mean low-IQ slasher with a tendency to shoot bad shots, right? Well, Gerald Green probably can be had this summer for under 8 mil a year.

So a guy who was an all star, (even if it was in the east) a member of the US World Cup Team (even if he played limited minutes) and a player of the month winner (All last year) has a low BB IQ? ? I find it hard to believe that Krzyzewski would have him on his team if that were true. I am not saying he is a superstar, because if he were we would not have a chance to trade for him. But a package centered around Nic , who they seem to like, is worth exploring in my mind.

He is very effective in the paint.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

So a guy who was an all star, (even if it was in the east) a member of the US World Cup Team (even if he played limited minutes) and a player of the month winner (All last year) has a low BB IQ? ? I find it hard to believe that Krzyzewski would have him on his team if that were true. I am not saying he is a superstar, because if he were we would not have a chance to trade for him. But a package centered around Nic , who they seem to like, is worth exploring in my mind.

He is very effective in the paint.

Nic is better than DeRozan. DeRozan is a slasher who likes to shoot long 2s in ISO. He's not the type of player you put next to Dame.

 

[B-Roy]

Derozan is a ball dominant midrange chucker.

We have enough of those.

 

[blue9]

I disagree, I think Green is already better than Wes. Green is every bit the hound dog that Wes is on D, and he is a WAY better shooter.

Debatable. I'm always wary of Spurs players - you're buying high when you trade for them. On another team I suspect Green would be about 70% of what he is with the Spurs. Basically my rule is don't trade for Spurs role players because they'll never provide your team with what they provided the Spurs.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Debatable. I'm always wary of Spurs players - you're buying high when you trade for them. On another team I suspect Green would be about 70% of what he is with the Spurs. Basically my rule is don't trade for Spurs role players because they'll never provide your team with what they provided the Spurs.

I usually agree but this batch of Spurs players seem different. Green, Leonard and Belinelli all seem like guys who will play their role to their best ability.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Derozan is a ball dominant midrange chucker.

We have enough of those.

Yeah well the game I remember most is when he continually took our wings into the lane and jumped right over them scoring at will. We were at his mercy and had no answer for him. That is what we lack and what he excels at. At 6'7" 220 I would put him at SF along side Dame and Wes.

He runs the floor well and obviously knows how to finish.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Yeah well the game I remember most is when he continually took our wings into the lane and jumped right over them scoring at will. We were at his mercy and had no answer for him. That is what we lack and what he excels at. At 6'7" 220 I would put him at SF along side Dame and Wes.

He runs the floor well and obviously knows how to finish.

One game.

Well, to the second point... It seems like a lot of players we are at their mercy with no answer for them. Sounds like a coaching issue.

 

[Pinwheel1]

One game.

Well, to the second point... It seems like a lot of players we are at their mercy with no answer for them. Sounds like a coaching issue.

Maybe I caught the one one game where he looked all world. But I can't get past Krzyzewski taking him on the USA team. I trust his instincts when they are the same as.......mine.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Maybe I caught the one one game where he looked all world. But I can't get past Krzyzewski taking him on the USA team. I trust his instincts when they are the same as.......mine.

Was it 13-14 he scored a ton? This season DeRozan played us once and scored 22.

Oh, back to my "our coach doesn't know how to adjust or stop a player".. here is list of players that went 30+ on us this season (list of 25+would be way too long):

Russell Westbrook (38,40,40,36)
Rudy Gay (40)
JJ Redick (30)
Ty Lawson (32)
Anthony Davis (31)
Derrick Rose (31)
Tim Duncan (32)
James Harden (44,45)
Nikola Vucevic (34)
Eric Bledsoe (33)
Kyrie Irving (55)
Chris Paul (36,41)
Dwyane Wade (32)
Steph Curry (33,45)
Brook Lopez (32)
Trevor Booker (36)

 

[Orion Bailey]

Was it 13-14 he scored a ton? This season DeRozan played us once and scored 22.

Oh, back to my "our coach doesn't know how to adjust or stop a player".. here is list of players that went 30+ on us this season (list of 25+would be way too long):

Russell Westbrook (38,40,40,36)
Rudy Gay (40)
JJ Redick (30)
Ty Lawson (32)
Anthony Davis (31)
Derrick Rose (31)
Tim Duncan (32)
James Harden (44,45)
Nikola Vucevic (34)
Eric Bledsoe (33)
Kyrie Irving (55)
Chris Paul (36,41)
Dwyane Wade (32)
Steph Curry (33,45)
Brook Lopez (32)
Trevor Booker (36)

This stat is moot unless we lost all these games. Maybe we did? Do you have that info?
Really doesn't look like that long of a list and most of the players on the list are all stars.

Does it matter if one player goes off if we shut down the rest of the team and win the game in the end?

Some players cant be stopped. You have to stop the other role players.

 

[TBpup]

Win....lose.....practice scrimmage....Trevor Booker should NEVER (let me repeat that) NEVER score 36 points on you. Period, end of story.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

IWes and Nic are too similar on offense IMO

I don't agree with this at all. They have been USED the same, certainly by McMillan, but they have very different skillsets. Batum is used as a backup PG a lot of the time and never posts up, two big differences from Wes.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Was it 13-14 he scored a ton? This season DeRozan played us once and scored 22.

Oh, back to my "our coach doesn't know how to adjust or stop a player".. here is list of players that went 30+ on us this season (list of 25+would be way too long):

Boy, that Steve Kerr must be useless - a player scored over 30 against his team FOR THE ENTIRE FINALS!

Oh wait, his team won. Maybe that's what's important and not whether individual players go off on you? Maybe sometimes the plan is to LET some players go off so long as the team wins? How many of those games you list were Blazer losses?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Was it 13-14 he scored a ton? This season DeRozan played us once and scored 22.

No it was not this year. It was probably one of these two games. But it wasn't the total number of points I am impressed with but rather him being good at attacking and not just standing out at the 3 pt line. He has good size, good hops, good handles, runs the floor, is disruptive in the passing lanes, and is a great finisher.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Zg0FSYZF4

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I look around at the other teams in the West and some of them are catching up fast. Utah and maybe even the Wolves, depending on how good Towns is are developing excellent young cores. I worry that we're going to be back in the wilderness very soon for a while.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

This stat is moot unless we lost all these games. Maybe we did? Do you have that info?
Really doesn't look like that long of a list and most of the players on the list are all stars.

Does it matter if one player goes off if we shut down the rest of the team and win the game in the end?

Some players cant be stopped. You have to stop the other role players.

We were 9-13

 

[Rastapopoulos]

What's with the Derozan love? He's pretty much garbage. He's the shooting guard version of Rudy Gay.