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"By a white supremacist" What on earth are they basing this on? Jeez these buzzwords and talking points are getting old. The words "racist" and "white supremacist" have completely lost their meaning.
Her being an Asian American I'd say language is what she based it on...it's not like Asian Americans haven't been victims of racism and bigotry on an escalating scale over the last few years...and that stems directly from racists and white supremacists....we weren't there but discounting her being robbed by someone she has a right to give the cops a description...if racist white supremacist is what she claims...who are we to doubt the validity....sounds like a partisan dig to me to discount a criminal act against this lady without knowing why...non of those words have lost their meaning unless you chose to ignore them
 
Her being an Asian American I'd say language is what she based it on...it's not like Asian Americans haven't been victims of racism and bigotry on an escalating scale over the last few years...and that stems directly from racists and white supremacists....we weren't there but discounting her being robbed by someone she has a right to give the cops a description...if racist white supremacist is what she claims...who are we to doubt the validity....sounds like a partisan dig to me to discount a criminal act against this lady without knowing why...non of those words have lost their meaning unless you chose to ignore them

this makes no sense. Prove only asians are being robbed.
Falling for clickbait divisive titles like this, only muddies the definition of racists, and deflects from the real issue going on.
By the standard of this post, anyone who does anything at all to a minority, its based on racial discrimination until proven otherwise..

Where in the tweet or video does it indicate she(the victim) said anything about race????
This is sooo backwards i dont even know where to begin….
 
this makes no sense. Prove only asians are being robbed.
Falling for clickbait divisive titles like this, only muddies the definition of racists, and deflects from the real issue going on.
By the standard of this post, anyone who does anything at all to a minority, its based on racial discrimination until proven otherwise..

Where in the tweet or video does it indicate she(the victim) said anything about race????
This is sooo backwards i dont even know where to begin….
I'm not unpacking this....but you are not on the same topic I'm on and reading a news article doesn't make us lawyers who need to prove anything...my wife happens to be Asian American and I think I can speak about the targeting of asians over the last few years and will.....as I said...if a Japanese american lady says racists robbed her...I don't doubt her word until it's proven SHE's not truthful...that door swings both ways...why would you jump on this topic?....have you experienced these things? My wife has and I don't have to prove it to you on the internet..I have my own convictions and voice them
 
I'm not unpacking this....but you are not on the same topic I'm on and reading a news article doesn't make us lawyers who need to prove anything...my wife happens to be Asian American and I think I can speak about the targeting of asians over the last few years and will.....as I said...if a Japanese american lady says racists robbed her...I don't doubt her word until it's proven SHE's not truthful...that door swings both ways...why would you jump on this topic?....have you experienced these things? My wife has and I don't have to prove it to you on the internet..I have my own convictions and voice them

where does anyone including the victim claim it was racist? only the tweeter.

Facts matter…

…to some…
 
where does anyone including the victim claim it was racist? only the tweeter.

Facts matter…

…to some…
facts matter to people who've been robbed or racially slandered as well....I don't know anything about tweeting but when a crime is on camera, I'll not jump to the defense of the robber that's for sure or call someone divisive because they support the victim's view.....even with our collective ignorance and again I have never said only asians get robbed dude....you led with that for a reason I don't understand but hey....I don't need to
 
facts matter to people who've been robbed or racially slandered as well....I don't know anything about tweeting but when a crime is on camera, I'll not jump to the defense of the robber that's for sure or call someone divisive because they support the victim's view.....even with our collective ignorance and again I have never said only asians get robbed dude....you led with that for a reason I don't understand but hey....I don't need to
Where is it a fact that this tweet, the one that claims it was a white supremest, presented in the tweet we are discussing?
The one i commented on and you responded to?


There's got to be something more to that story for him to claim it was a white supremacist.

…or its an invalid claim. But being as nothing more was provided….

When making such a claim there should be proof to such a claim or something provided to back the claim up. Or anyoen xan say snything they want…

This is fake news and should be called out as such until something more is provided to substantiate the claim.

To validate such a claim simply because of the Asian community being the victim of racially motivated attacks is just reckless in my opinion.

besides I'm pretty sure the looting Nd robbing isn't about race as much as its about the haves and have nots.
 
I'm not unpacking this....but you are not on the same topic I'm on and reading a news article doesn't make us lawyers who need to prove anything...my wife happens to be Asian American and I think I can speak about the targeting of asians over the last few years and will.....as I said...if a Japanese american lady says racists robbed her...I don't doubt her word until it's proven SHE's not truthful...that door swings both ways...why would you jump on this topic?....have you experienced these things? My wife has and I don't have to prove it to you on the internet..I have my own convictions and voice them

Also i jump on this topic because crying wolf and making false or inaccurate claims of racism hinders the actual fight against racism.

To make a claim of racism, much like child molester or rapist, can ruin ones life, and rightly so if they are guilty. But if they are not guilty and have that spread against them…

You hate Trump and fake news but here you are willing to just let a damning claim go with no other facts other than Asian hate crimes are on the rise….

no double standard there at all….
 
Also i jump on this topic because crying wolf and making false or inaccurate claims of racism hinders the actual fight against racism.

To make a claim of racism, much like child molester or rapist, can ruin ones life, and rightly so if they are guilty. But if they are not guilty and have that spread against them…

You hate Trump and fake news but here you are willing to just let a damning claim go with no other facts other than Asian hate crimes are on the rise….

no double standard there at all….
You nor I know if this is fake news or not...what I know is that the tweeter has a Chinese name and photo on his avatar.....how I feel about Trump has nothing to do with this topic...talk about divisive....and I'm not trying to prove the news dude....although you seem hell bent on disproving it....we are ignorant and not informed...it's a phone camera clip and I take it for what it is but stop defining my reasons for supporting victims rights over our political differences....someone is being divisive here and it's not necessary to discuss the topic in my view as sensationalized propogandists....I have no agenda than a passing comment over a news clip.....there's nothing to argue here...and when Asians are victims of crimes saying that is on the rise is a fact. That does not contribute to more crime...sorry...that's way off base addressing a problem is different from creating one
 
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You nor I know if this is fake news or not...what I know is that the tweeter has a Chinese name and photo on his avatar.....how I feel about Trump has nothing to do with this topic...talk about divisive....and I'm not trying to prove the news dude....although you seem hell bent on disproving it....we are ignorant and not informed...it's a phone camera clip and I take it for what it is but stop defining my reasons for supporting victims rights over our political differences....someone is being divisive here and it's not necessary to discuss the topic in my view as sensationalized propogandists....I have no agenda than a passing comment over a news clip.....there's nothing to argue here...and when Asians are victims of crimes saying that is on the rise is a fact. That does not contribute to more crime...sorry...that's way off base

man, projection 101, if im divisive them so where you with your defense of the tweet when someone else called it out. If you cant handle the back and forth, don't call it out…

and if you are gonna call it out, handle getting called out in return better than claiming im being divisive.

im german. If i comment someone else is a nazi does that make it right by association?


Sorry man. Bad take.

a claim like that needs to be substantiated just like claims from the other side need to be substantiated. Or no one should be running with that headline as that criminal is a white suppremist.


again. Facts and logic > emotions and association.
 
man, projection 101, if im divisive them so where you with your defense of the tweet when someone else called it out. If you cant handle the back and forth, don't call it out…

and if you are gonna call it out, handle getting called out in return better than claiming im being divisive.

im german. If i comment someone else is a nazi does that make it right by association?


Sorry man. Bad take.

a claim like that needs to be substantiated just like claims from the other side need to be substantiated. Or no one should be running with that headline as that criminal is a white suppremist.


again. Facts and logic > emotions and association.
You brought up me and Trump....I'm talking about a robbery and the description of the criminal....try to keep up...I don't care if you're German at all...why would you bring that up?
 
No, I agree that the tweet was missing details as to what made it racially motivated. Robbing a person who happens to be Asian is obviously just a criminal being a criminal. I tend to think there's probably a legit reason behind the claim since it's a serious charge.
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i agree as well. However I've seen the racism label get muddier snd muddier by those who use it, and it really is minimizing the claim.
Ive seen innocent people out ast due to false claims of rasis
Based on one persons opinion.

This tweet is Case in point.

If there weren't so much racism finger-pointing without true justification, i would have little reason to doubt the tweet. But because i believe some want a war, and they propagate a narrative they know is a growing time bomb and exploit it, i have my doubts about most claims that come without a shred of evidence.

But People fall for it.

Fox news is guilty of this, as is msn.
But mostly, its internet tweeters making a claim like this and then it goes viral and becomes the truth, without a shred of tangible evidence.

its just as scary as rascism and the left, river, used to make that claim when it was trump doing that type of bullshit headline shocker shit. But when someone else does that, like this, its okay. Its justified. Its assumed and judgement has been gaveled….


This is not the judicial process i want moving forward….
 
You brought up me and Trump....I'm talking about a robbery and the description of the criminal....try to keep up...I don't care if you're German at all...why would you bring that up?

The tweet is fake news.
Trump pushed fake news.
You railed against trump for his fake news. You are approving of this fake news without any question.

Are you following along?

:banghead2::banghead2::banghead2:
 
its just as scary as rascism and the left, river, used to make that claim when it was trump doing that type of bullshit headline shocker shit. But when someone else does that, like this, its okay. Its justified. Its assumed and judgement has been gaveled….
wtf is this about? river used to make claims when Trump was what? You are fishing for more divisiveness here OB and I thought we'd gotten over that.....judgement has been gaveled? That's some emo shit man...don't make blanket statements about so called claims I've made...I'm transparent about my convictions...you're welcome to yours....
 
wtf is this about? river used to make claims when Trump was what? You are fishing for more divisiveness here OB and I thought we'd gotten over that.....judgement has been gaveled? That's some emo shit man


Whats emo is you claiming I'm fishing for anything other than quelling the spread of a racism claim without any supporting evidence…

duck and evade, duck and evade. Lol.
Okay. You cant handle the callout. Got it.
Movin on.
 
Whats emo is you claiming I'm fishing for anything other than quelling the spread of a racism claim without any supporting evidence…

duck and evade, duck and evade. Lol.
Okay. You cant handle the callout. Got it.
Movin on.
what you can't handle is a conversation with me....that's not my problem dude...apparently it's yours. good luck with that. you should come to grips with the fact that you are not a judge in a court of law that requires proof or evidence or witnesses.....you're in a basketball chat room I've been clear about my views....deal with it
 
what you can't handle is a conversation with me....that's not my problem dude...apparently it's yours. good luck with that. you should come to grips with the fact that you are not a judge in a court of law that requires proof or evidence or witnesses.....you're in a basketball chat room I've been clear about my views....deal with it

i was having a conversation until you started making some claim to divisive whatever.( first sign of getting defensive)
I stand by my views too, the ones thst make sure facts dont get overridden by emotions. . Deal with it. Lol
. you are the one here sounding as though you are having a hissy fit because i stated your post made no sense to me.

I stated my reasons why and you proceeded to bring in your family. so i brought in trump.

I didnt ask you why you brought in your family, irrelevant to the tweet but you had an issue with trump.

Anyhow im done until you can stop being defensive and just have a conversation.
Hard to have a conversation with someone who gets defensive but claims the other person as being emo. Lol.

You railed on trumps fake news.

But now stating so, and pointing out you aren't railing against this fake news, but actually support it, has triggered you or something…

movin on..
 
You railed on trumps fake news.

But now stating so, and pointing out you aren't railing against this fake news, but actually support it, has triggered you or something…
the use of fake news by the last administration was a weaponized way of dealing with journalists...that has nothing to do with this robbery where racism was a descriptor....I didn't write the story but you got really triggered over my posts to the point of very emo comparisons about Trump, Nazis, etc....I just talked about my wife and her family and their experiences in relationship to a japanese woman's experience and speculated....you seem to have difficulty with direct observations...going to duck, fade, whatever defensive stuff you were saying about me.....it's disrespectful simply put ..choices
 
the use of fake news by the last administration was a weaponized way of dealing with journalists...that has nothing to do with this robbery where racism was a descriptor....I didn't write the story but you got really triggered over my posts to the point of very emo comparisons about Trump, Nazis, etc....I just talked about my wife and her family and their experiences in relationship to a japanese woman's experience and speculated....you seem to have difficulty with direct observations...going to duck, fade, whatever defensive stuff you were saying about me.....it's disrespectful simply put ..choices

Whatever you say river… mirror is over there….
 
My observation is that most “racists” are really just asshole bigots that act out because the people they’re acting out against aren’t the type of people that they normally associate with. They aren’t racists in the sense that they believe they’re superior due to the color of their skin (unlike white supremacists), they just hate everyone that’s not in their group.

Honestly, I know just as many Asian racists as I know of racists from different races. They’re all just fucking assholes, but they aren’t dangerous on the same level as the white supremacists. White supremacists and their hateful ideologies are dangerous and should never be tolerated.

exactly. All the more reason to not make such a claim without proof or evidence.
 
the use of fake news by the last administration was a weaponized way of dealing with journalists...that has nothing to do with this robbery where racism was a descriptor....I didn't write the story but you got really triggered over my posts to the point of very emo comparisons about Trump, Nazis, etc....I just talked about my wife and her family and their experiences in relationship to a japanese woman's experience and speculated....you seem to have difficulty with direct observations...going to duck, fade, whatever defensive stuff you were saying about me.....it's disrespectful simply put ..choices

wait. I never mentioned nazis! Your just fake fucking news! Lmao.
I cant take you seriously at all.
Nazis. Lol

thanks for the laugh!
 
wait. I never mentioned nazis! Your just fake fucking news! Lmao.
I cant take you seriously at all.
Nazis. Lol

thanks for the laugh!
you removed your post about being German? You mentioned it doesn't make you a Nazi I believe but now you are saying you didn't post that? ok......nuff said.......I'm just fake fucking news eh? Insult much? I replied I don't care if you're German....
 
"By a white supremacist" What on earth are they basing this on? Jeez these buzzwords and talking points are getting old. The words "racist" and "white supremacist" have completely lost their meaning.
How do you know if they're guessing or know something?
 
you removed your post about being German? You mentioned it doesn't make you a Nazi I believe but now you are saying you didn't post that? ok......nuff said.......I'm just fake fucking news eh? Insult much? I replied I don't care if you're German....
Also. Sorry but man blatent hypocrisy i cant help but

nope okay. You are Right. I did mention it. But context matters. You couldnt handle the double standard call out originally, so the conversation went sideways. I assumed you meant as in you calling someone a nazi. I misunderstood your post but with how defensive you have been i see why. Lol

you bringing up your family is not an issue but me bringing up my heritage is.
You dont even see how im mocking your irrelevancy, talking about either with regards to the tweet.
So yea i was wrong in i did use a simili mocking your irrelevant post by using germans and nazis.
The fact that you dont get it is the telling thing out of all this.
The fact you don't get that its a double standard to rail on fox news and trump for fake news but approve a tweet that makes a claim with zero evidence, is all i need to know.
The rest of this conversation has just been a oidance by you to acknowledge the double standard by way of ducking and evading.
Its okay. Its a tactic often used by those unable to confront a double standard of theirs ahen presented.
So i stand by my original post. Your didn't make any sense to me.

deal with it. ;)
 
How do you know if they're guessing or know something?

exactly. With how hard core of a claim. You dont make a claim without providing evidence.
Isnt this exactly what fox news and trump did that pissed so many off?
 
80 bandits converging on a target of their choice, in nice cars. Why? not payed enough, bored, excitement, are they young Robin Hoods? are they drug addicts or just punk kids that have zero respect for others?
I guess there are strength in numbers?

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...you stop this shit when corporate greed and inequality balances out or improves :dunno:
 
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How do you know if they're guessing or know something?
After seeing how the media handled the Rittenhouse coverage, guessing is probably too kind of an accusation. They're probably flat out lying.
 
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