How does Vince Carter feel right now? (1 Viewer)

[Netsfan99]

Well, he has one fan. That one fan hacked into the NBA's computers and gave him like a billion votes.

Clearly.

Truly!....cant believe that 1 fan has super natural powers to do that against the entire world!

 

[MaxaMillion711]

How well did Carter play in the series against Toronto?

ill tell you how well

game 1 - awful 1st 3 quarters. very good 4th quarter including the biggest shot of the game, that layup past humphries. most important win of the series...in large part thanks to kidd, rj and boki BUT vince did contribute in the 4th

game 2 - pretty bad. i think he had around 21pts. shot bad. team was still competitive though. the challenge was on for winning the next 2 games.

game 3 - in my opinion, his 3rd best game of all time. absolutely unstoppable. he was possessed. destroying the raptors and capped it off with a sweet transition dunk. 37pts. as good as you can play

game 4 - more of the same. unbelievable energy and hit 2 amazing shots right off the bat. he threw down a sick reverse alley oop dunk that was #1 of that season. threw down another 1 handed alley oop next time down the floor too. he lead the nets to the blowout win and they were up by so much, raptors tv turned off the score.

game 5 - back in to and looking for vengeance. he played great this game. it was a flashback of his january 8th performance in 2006 where he had 42 and the gamewinner. he rose above the boos and played excellent and got boki an open 3 for the win...but boki missed. back to jersey we go

game 6 - he was not as hot as the last 3 games, but the energy and attitude was there. he pumped up the crowd quite a bit. he had a big game changing dunk in the 4th. nearly lost the game though....bad shot selection near the end. but rj got his back and nets beat em.

im as big of vc fan as there could be, and i was so proud of him after that series. no matter what happens in the future. he beat the raptors the first time they met in the playoffs. nothing can change that.

failure? please. save the word failure for OLOWAKANDI not vince carter, in my and many others opinion, a future hall of famer.

vince has a stigma....and its not gone away as magic johnson proved and as you proved by calling him a failure. do you people even watch him? do you see how hes playing? do you watch the press conferences? do you hear the praise by his teammates and coaches? its just amazing that after all he has done ... he gets treated like crap.

honestly, he is the most worthwhile athlete in basketball that i can look up to as a role model. i think he handles the criticism so well and is a genuinely good person. i know whenever i get extra money, i donate to his charity. i really respect him for that. his press conference when his high school dedicated a statue to him really moved me and made my respect for him go even higher.

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yeah hes not kobe. hes not michael. hes not wade. big whoop. enjoy him for who he is and stop dwelling on who he isnt and why he sucks. i think that goes for life too. enjoy life....focus on the good things and you will attract good things. seriously man.

im very excited for this season by the way

 

[danxcr]

great post max... i love carter too... hes a great leader... and a great teammate... watch what he will do when hes captain of this team

 

[networks]

ill tell you how well


failure? please. save the word failure for OLOWAKANDI
not vince carter, in my and many others opinion, a future hall of famer.

yeah hes not kobe. hes not michael. hes not wade. big whoop. enjoy him for who he is and stop dwelling on who he isnt and why he sucks. i think that goes for life too. enjoy life....focus on the good things and you will attract good things. seriously man.

im very excited for this season by the way

Interesting.

 

[jirohkanzaki]

Good one, right there! How well did Carter play in the series against Toronto? We can keep going at this all day. It's amazing to me how you try to convince me that Carter isn't a failure, despite being so talented. Please.

I know that The Joker is 100x a failure than Vince Carter is that's for sure...if you want to have a perspective on it from your side instead of Michael Jordan's...

 

[dino33]

Which he does quite often, too.


And unlike Carter, Kidd does what is expected of him.

Kidd was expected to lead the Nets and not be a quitter.

Kidd was also expected to help the Mavs to AT THE VERY LEAST come out of the first round.

Stop hating on Carter fans... we like Carter like you like kidd.

Im not biased or anything, I know what carter does good and what he isnt good at.

And I also kno that kidd aint a good shooter....

 

[networks]

Kidd was expected to lead the Nets and not be a quitter.

Kidd was also expected to help the Mavs to AT THE VERY LEAST come out of the first round.

Stop hating on Carter fans... we like Carter like you like kidd.

Im not biased or anything, I know what carter does good and what he isnt good at.

And I also kno that kidd aint a good shooter....

Another interesting comment. NICE!!!!!!!

 

[Netsfan99]

Kidd was never......ever.....a good shooter.

lol Kidd's FG% past 4 years....or past forever.

04-05 = 0.398%
05-06 = 0.404%
06-07 = 0.406%
07-08 = 0.366%

If this is called good shooting, then i guess VC's shooting is as good as Michael Jordan.


Anyhow, i cant wait for the next season to start. Its going to be very interesting.

 

[huevonkiller]

Kidd was never......ever.....a good shooter.

lol Kidd's FG% past 4 years....or past forever.

04-05 = 0.398%
05-06 = 0.404%
06-07 = 0.406%
07-08 = 0.366%

If this is called good shooting, then i guess VC's shooting is as good as Michael Jordan.


Anyhow, i cant wait for the next season to start. Its going to be very interesting.

Kidd isn't a good shooter, but FG% is somewhat of an obsolete stat as well. Kidd's True Shooting Percentage has been closer to average efficiency, 2005-2006 is an example.

 

[GMJ]

Kidd's shooting also isn't important since that's not what his game is based on. That's like criticizing Shaq because he can't shoot threes.

 

[pegs]

Kidd's shooting also isn't important since that's not what his game is based on. That's like criticizing Shaq because he can't shoot threes.

Players at Shaq's position aren't necessarily required to shoot threes.

Players at Kidd's position usually are.

Maybe a better example would have been "that's like criticizing Shaq because he can't shoot a 15 ft jumper." Because most of the time, big men are required to shoot a short jumper, but Shaq doesn't need to shoot that jumper because the other skills he has pretty much make up for his inability to shoot a reliable jumper; and pretty much make that skill useless anyways (if he's used the correct way).

Same could be said about Kidd and his overall jumper...

And, for the sake of it, same could be said about Vince Carter's "lack" of leadership, because for most of his previous seasons, he had another player on the team who would take on leadership duties. Thereby making the need of leadership from him obsolete, while the skills that make him valuable remain

 

[GMJ]

But now you're saying that a scoring PG is the only type there is, where as a pass-first guard on a team full of shooters is someone a detriment. Kidd's ability to get other people the ball make up for the fact that he doesn't score a lot (unless he's on Dallas and all of a sudden starts trying again )

 

[NJNetz]

I actually feel like a bit of an asshole for shitting on Carter fans.

 

[Netsfan99]

I actually feel like a bit of an asshole for shitting on Carter fans.

When did you do that? You lost every argument in this thread.

lol @ delusional.

awwww Kidd fans take everything to the heart. so cute.

 

[pegs]

But now you're saying that a scoring PG is the only type there is, where as a pass-first guard on a team full of shooters is someone a detriment. Kidd's ability to get other people the ball make up for the fact that he doesn't score a lot (unless he's on Dallas and all of a sudden starts trying again )

Ah, wait a second, you're missing what I'm saying. His ability to score isn't all that important - his ability to shoot is most important, especially at his position. There is a difference.

Just look at how important it is to the success of Steve Nash, Jose Calderon, Rajon Rondo, etc.

 

[Netsfan99]

Ah, wait a second, you're missing what I'm saying. His ability to score isn't all that important - his ability to shoot is most important, especially at his position. There is a difference.

Just look at how important it is to the success of Steve Nash, Jose Calderon, Rajon Rondo, etc.

Those players are wayyy to good of a scorers to be put in the same sentence as Jason Kidd.

Kidds scoring should be put more into the category of....Avery Johnson..or Alvin Williams.

 

[GMJ]

When did you do that? You lost every argument in this thread.

lol @ delusional.

awwww Kidd fans take everything to the heart. so cute.

Get a grip, we're all Nets fans. Micro managing and generalizing the fanbase only makes you look foolish (but for what it's worth, Sean Williams fans are the coolest ).

Ah, wait a second, you're missing what I'm saying. His ability to score isn't all that important - his ability to shoot is most important, especially at his position. There is a difference.

Just look at how important it is to the success of Steve Nash, Jose Calderon, Rajon Rondo, etc.

Yeah, I guess I don't follow. Shooting is important but scoring isn't? Aren't they one in the same when you're talking about Jason Kidd? He's not a driving player like a Tony Parker-type.

 

[kdub]

Collins sucks!

... Oh wait, the hating is over? Damn you Jigga!

 

[NJNetz]

When did you do that? You lost every argument in this thread.

lol @ delusional.

awwww Kidd fans take everything to the heart. so cute.

I admitted being wrong for attacking Carter fans, and you respond like that. Way to be mature about it.

 

[Legacy]

Don't stereotype Carter fans. lol

 

[Netsfan99]

I admitted being wrong for attacking Carter fans, and you respond like that. Way to be mature about it.

Dont take out your frustrations / PMS out on me just because you lost an argument in this thread.

Jeez.

 

[NJNetz]

Dont take out your frustrations / PMS out on me just because you lost an argument in this thread.

Jeez.

What argument did I lose?

 

[dino33]

Well it depends on whether the team requires "shooting". In this case the Nets do require shooting, thus Kidd's lack of ability to shoot at a decent percentage would indeed hurt the team.

However, I am also aware that his ability to pass benefits the team in a lot of ways.

 

[MisterMontross]

Hoping that everyone has noticed my restraint in this thread.

 

[GMJ]

Hoping that everyone has noticed my restraint in this thread.

Nah don't worry, I've already had you covered

Quitter.
Wince Carter
Bum.

 

[MaxaMillion711]

Hoping that everyone has noticed my restraint in this thread.

haha yes...i have missed your quick, snappy,one sentence diggs

but by all means, if you feel the need to express your opinion, go for it

 

[Claud]

If Vince gets a ring with the Nets do you guys think he'll become a Hall of famer? Wouldnt it be ironic if Vince gets his ring in Jersey and retires as a great Net while Jkidd doesnt win shit in Dallas and retires with no ring?

 

[DennisRodman]

If Vince really wanted to win a ring, he should have asked for less and signed with Orlando. I think that would have thrown them up there with Detroit and Boston. The Nets are a real question mark the next couple of years, but they most likely will be outside of title contention.

 

[MaxaMillion711]

If Vince gets a ring with the Nets do you guys think he'll become a Hall of famer?

if vince can be a superstar the next couple of years and average at least 20-21ppg...he will reach 23,000pts.

19 players have done that in nba history. and all of them are in/will be in the hall of fame.

and all star appearances are big in hall of famers. vince has 8 and he was leading vote getter 4 times.

he holds tons of records with the nets and raptors. for scoring and 40pt games and such.

in most circles, he is considered the greatest dunker of all time and he performed the greatest dunks in a dunk contest of all time. hes a top selling jersey of the past 10 years. he won a gold medal in sydney and pulled of the greatest basketball play in history, according to best damn sports shows top 50 plays of all time...it was #6 and #1 from basketball...rest were football and baseball, with his dunk over weis.

he is one of the most all around players in the league with around 24, 6 and 5 any given night (when healthy of course)

i think even if he doesnt win a ring, he will be a hall of famer. i know rick kamla, yeah i know...its rick kamla, did a feature where i get a lot of those stats where he believes that as well. i know commentators a year ago said the nets have "two hall of famers on their team and a parenial all star in jefferson" all the time. ian eagle and mark jackson believe he is one and even coach frank said he is one.

 

[NJNetz]

If Vince really wanted to win a ring, he should have asked for less and signed with Orlando. I think that would have thrown them up there with Detroit and Boston. The Nets are a real question mark the next couple of years, but they most likely will be outside of title contention.

Orlando wasn't even interested in Vince. Money wasn't the issue. After all, they did sign Rashard Lewis to a $120+ contract.