How long of a leash should Chauncey have?

[inconceivable]

If the Blazers get less than 20 wins, fire Chauncey.

 

[Samuel]

This team is going to lose a lot of games either way. The question is whether the team is picking up good defensive habits, is developing good chemistry on the court, and whether Chauncey seems to be able to create and implement philosophy.

The last two years were a bit of a mess and Chauncey had to improvise in both seasons; in his first year he had to simplify his schemes so that he could properly teach them (early on it sounded like the players felt his plays were too complicated). In his second year he was using Dame off-ball more and the team was miserable at protecting the ball so it had to shift to a more classic Dame spamming PnR. Before the injuries kicked in it 'did' seem like the team was starting to hold the line defensively a tick better. When Nurk/Winslow started to miss time the rest of the group got flattened and that was that.

I think Ayton (and RW3 depending on if he's with the team all year—sounds like he might be?) will be massive inflection points for Chauncey—these are two starting level bigs and when they're healthy it'll be up to him to get the most out of them. They're both entering their primes and have played on winners—this isn't quite as much of a developmental situation with them. I've read that RW3's defensive success can be situational depending on matchups and scheme; he's not a big that will thrive in every type of scheme and matchup.

Will Chauncey's scheme make sense with Ayton defensively? Can Chauncey get Ayton going in the PnR? We'll see.

I think Chauncey will get more leniency with the guards since they're younger.

There's a tendency in these types of yakity sax situations to heavily rely on ISO performers like Ant and Grant. With so much in flux this year that's going to happen, full stop—but I hope that with the starters the ball moves around since there are a handful of mouths to feed in Ayton/Grant/Ant.

 

[ant]

If we replace Billups in season, are there any available head coaches or top up-and-coming assistants that would be a good fit for our young rebuild? I would love to have someone in place earlier than later to guide our rebuild. Bill ups should be an assistant somewhere, not a head coach.

 

[wizenheimer]

If we replace Billups in season, are there any available head coaches or top up-and-coming assistants that would be a good fit for our young rebuild? I would love to have someone in place earlier than later to guide our rebuild. Bill ups should be an assistant somewhere, not a head coach.

I'm not sure how many top coaches want to go to a team that could be a lottery team for a number of years

if Scoot and Sharpe are having struggles and inconsistency while Ant is bombing away; if the cadre of young forwards offers some promise, but is wildly inconsistent; if Ayton is mercurial with big swings in impact; if Robert Williams continues his injury trajectory; if Grant comes back to earth in his 3 point shooting while rebounding poorly; if Brogdon is just looking like eventual trade bait and Thybulle is just looking like he always has....

and most of those things are probable. It's going to be a long climb out of the cellar. A lot of coaches won't want to get on that ladder. More likely have to be a younger first time coach willing to take a chance

 

[Rastapopoulos]

bump

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

How tight can we tighten the collar?

 

[Propagandist]

We look uncoached.

 

[TBpup]

It probably needs to be fairly short because I don't want all of these young players developing early bad habits.

 

[Phatguysrule]

It probably needs to be fairly short because I don't want all of these young players developing early bad habits.

Yep, this is my concern. I'm starting to think he's worse than I imagined.

 

[Tince]

Billups production has been in a line with what I would expect of a coach who got a head coaching job with only one year of assistant coaching experience.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Billups production has been in a line with what I would expect of a coach who got a head coaching job with only one year of assistant coaching experience.

True. Those guys don't generally build dynasties.

 

[Tince]

I believe Billups will be let go in early-mid 2025.

 

[sheed30]

bump

why bump this? its one game with a whole new squad and against a good defensive team.

 

[sheed30]

We look uncoached.

We look like what we are, the youngest team in the NBA, with a rookie 19 year old PG, all new faces to the team and against a good defensive team.

Newsflash, Popovich wouldn't be able to make this team look good.

 

[Mediocre Man]

We look like what we are, the youngest team in the NBA, with a rookie 19 year old PG, all new faces to the team and against a good defensive team.

Newsflash, Popovich wouldn't be able to make this team look good.

And last years excuse? The year before?

 

[sheed30]

And last years excuse? The year before?

the year before? where we had a team that Neil put today, Dame not 100% and shut down early for the season with surgery and us trading and breaking up the team? Last year, we started hot and fizzled, once Winslow went out it was all down hill. Newsflash, we didn't have a good team the last two seasons, and the same is said for this season.

Maybe you guys need to come to grips that this team just isnt good and overrating players.

Why did the Spurs, with the best or one of the top coaches in NBA history have a worse record than us last season? LMAO!

Or why did the Spurs have a losing record the last 3 seasons with Hall of fame coach?

Please answer me those last two questions.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

I don't mind the Blazers not being good. They are not expected to be good right now.

What I DO mind is that they look absolutely disorganized. They look like they are playing pickup basketball, not organized, structured, coached ball.

After the past two years (where we saw much of the same) and the preseason and yes, only one game into this season, I've largely given up hope for having a good team as long as Billups is the "coach".

If we played bad but looked like we knew what we were trying to do, that is one thing, but to look so discombobulated after training camp and preseason is flat out wrong.

Stotts may not have been the best coach but he often tended to get the most out of his people. Billups, not so much.

 

[Freshtown]

This offseason is the time to replace him. Let him coach the tank this year and then find a master tactician like Snyder or Dagnal. We need to implement a system and Chauncey doesn’t seem like he has the strategic chops to make quick tactical moves, adjustments, tricks on the fly, etc.

 

[bxb]

Robert Williams and Ayton combined for 19 boards in 46 minutes, 6 steals 2 blocks.. pretty good for 2 new players trying to assimilate with a new PG who was dreadful for most of the game.. n also considering Aytons foul situation..


To me I think its very fair to ask if this is a personnel situation..


cuz thats what I think... the personnel is strong in some spots but frankly the forward position needs a major injection of talent..

like do u think all the best coaches in the world waiting for a great nba job want to coach up matisse thybulle and jerami grant vs kahwi leonard and paul george???

 

[bxb]

If I was being told im a bad coach cuz my team lost n i had matisse thybulle n jerami grant as my starting forwards n the other team had kahwi leonard n paul george --- and I have a rookie point guard starting n the other team has former mvp russell westbrook..

id quit..and laugh in your face..

"find someone else!" cuz ur gonna complain about them too, cuz their job is far more difficult than your making it out to be..

its not that chauncey is bad at his job.. its more a matter of your lack of comprehension about how hes supposed to be judged..

people wanna squeeze blood from a stone around here

 

[bxb]

if u think terry stotts returns n coaches up matisse thybulle n jerami grant n a rookie starting pg to outplay westbrook kahwi leonard n paul george u probably do hard drugs

 

[andalusian]

if u think terry stotts returns n coaches up matisse thybulle n jerami grant n a rookie starting pg to outplay westbrook kahwi leonard n paul george u probably do hard drugs

I think the belief is that if TS was coaching this team it would have looked like it has a coherent plan on offense. That's all.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

if u think terry stotts returns n coaches up matisse thybulle n jerami grant n a rookie starting pg to outplay westbrook kahwi leonard n paul george u probably do hard drugs

This is what's known as a straw man. Yes, we expect to lose to the Clippers. But (a) we're not judging Chauncey on THAT ONE GAME, and (b) you can lose and still look like you know what you're doing. We didn't do that.

 

[Whyachi]

Hopefully coach Billups will be more in touch with his team this year, and less concerned about delivering a superior coaching system.

Last season... (oh god, here we go... stop talking about last year, just get over it.) ... after B2B 6 game road trips in December. Those extended road trips were grueling. Each were 10 straight days of flying around the country. It'd been almost a month since any of his players got to go home.

After the jet lag caravans, Blazers FINALLY have 2 days off to rest their bones. Coach Billups demanded his team go to practice on both days. Not optional shoot around, run some stuff with young guys. No rest, you guys need to drill down on some new looks I'm thinking about.

Even workaholic Josh Hart had to speak up about it. I don't remember the exact quotes, but Josh wasn't exactly excited about not getting a day off from hooping.

I did like that Chauncey pulled the starters last night after Blazers went down by 25+ in 3rd qtr. He wasn't expecting some crazy drivey stealy sprinty 3pt blasting rally to get back into the game.

Billups has to do a better job giving his main rotation rest this season. Last year, Chauncey's desire to be NBA super-coach exhausted what his team was capable of.

 

[Haakzilla]

This long:

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[riverman]

Chauncey waives the white flag in the end game far too soon. It doesn't promote winning culture. I don't know why people think it's Chauncey's first year and give him a lot of rope...he hasn't had a two way team with an identity going on his third season. We looked bad in preseason too. I don't want to hear post game stories about how he failed as a young player either...I want to hear about how he wants to win now. Doesn't matter what your roster is if you don't have a playbook and I haven't seen much of a playbook since he's been coaching. This roster has depth and talent but clearly needs a plug and play system and can't just roll the ball out and expect Scoot to win a foot race down the court every possession.

 

[Samuel]

Chauncey doesn’t seem like he has the strategic chops to make quick tactical moves, adjustments, tricks on the fly, etc.

Adjustments are nice, but that's for down the road—let's start with a clear-headed offensive and defensive scheme where it doesnt look like the players are late/early/confused all the time.

I'm gonna give this team a minute because it's young and there are a lot of new players, but you gotta see progress on this stuff.

 

[Mediocre Man]

the year before? where we had a team that Neil put today, Dame not 100% and shut down early for the season with surgery and us trading and breaking up the team? Last year, we started hot and fizzled, once Winslow went out it was all down hill. Newsflash, we didn't have a good team the last two seasons, and the same is said for this season.

Maybe you guys need to come to grips that this team just isnt good and overrating players.

Why did the Spurs, with the best or one of the top coaches in NBA history have a worse record than us last season? LMAO!

Or why did the Spurs have a losing record the last 3 seasons with Hall of fame coach?

Please answer me those last two questions.

It’s not the record. It’s the scheme

 

[BBert]

WCF or he's toast.

 

[Phatguysrule]

if u think terry stotts returns n coaches up matisse thybulle n jerami grant n a rookie starting pg to outplay westbrook kahwi leonard n paul george u probably do hard drugs

Nobody expected this team to outplay the Clippers.