How much were these refs paid off tonight?

[dumpstralmannow]

Not to mention the retards in Toronto? First, they allow an obvious non goal. They, they miss about 5 blatant penalties the Devils took and just put the whistle away. Unfreaking real. Yet, the NHL wonders why they can't get ratings.

 

[Disturbed]

Horrible officiating but this team cannot finish Dump and has NO killer instinct just like past Ranger teams.

We are who we are. A team that has some really good talent that never seems to play up to it and will battle for a 8 seed

I am so sick of this 4th line. They are completely inept offensively and are not stopping goals either.

This team STINKS

 

[Messiah717]

Ridiculous to allow that goal. Changes the game. That being said they had chances and can't finish. Same old story makes them a .500 team.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

I was going to get to our jerkoff defenseman other than McDonagh who just stopped skating. One thing I can say is that this team is not at all in physical shape. That needs to change.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Can't get them in shape without hurting their feelings

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[chuckd3534]

Horrible officiating but this team cannot finish Dump and has NO killer instinct just like past Ranger teams.

We are who we are. A team that has some really good talent that never seems to play up to it and will battle for a 8 seed

I am so sick of this 4th line. They are completely inept offensively and are not stopping goals either.

This team STINKS

BINGO. Of course that 1st goal should not have counted. Of course it was a joke it did. But that isn't why we allowed a Devil team, that had 11 shots the prior night, to score 4 goals. And still blew a 2-1 lead. And counldn't score on the PP to go up 3-1 or 3-2.

Like dis said, same old story for 15 years under Sather. It is literally the same EVERY SINGLE YEAR under this guy, so why would it be different now? It won't. Yet we will all get fired up in here and expect it to be. Who is the fool is that situation...me and all of us IMO.

 

[panzerporter]

Thought the turning point was when Nash missed the open goal altogether on the 2 on 1 with Stepan, 3-0 ends that game. Funny the first thing I thought on Janssen's alleged goal was Dominic the donkey's disallowed goal against Philly, was the same exact play and I was surprised the MSG crew didn't dig it up for a frame of reference, was just mentioned as an aside. Janssen's uncalled slash across Falk's back was brutal, he should get a game suspension for that cheap crap. The fact that the Rangers have nobody willing and able to pummel him forebodes more of the same from other teams. The Rangers are the least physical team in the NHL, we don't need scorers as much as big bodies. Teams will continue to take runs at the Rangers all year unless they know there's a reckoning. Also the talk of John Moore being equal or better than MDZ is utter nonsense, if he's not going to take the body there's no reason to resign him

 

[chuckd3534]

Moore has been bad. He and MDZ both stink right now. Two peas in a pod.

As for someone who will make other teams pay, we have that...Dorsett...he is just out. Now he is too small for what he does, but no doubt he would have gone after Janssen.

We need size and scoring. Size on the blueline also, but I think McIlrath can fill that role when he comes up, whenever that is.

 

[panzerporter]

Come on Chuck how is Dorsett making anyone pay? He's a small punching bag. I'm talking about a Colton Orr/John Scott type that keeps the other team from even thinking about cheap crap. Janssen would pound Dorsett, the only payback would be if he broke a hand while administering the beat down.

 

[chuckd3534]

Here is what I know, Dorsett would at least battle Janssen. He would challenge him. To me our issue is size with some ability. Not a goon like Scott or Orr. We agree to disagree there.

 

[theProdigy223]

We do not need a John Scott or Colton Orr. Our 4th line is slow and offensively inept as it is. Toronto is much deeper with front end talent and can afford to have a spot wasted on Orr. Buffalo is Buffalo.

Dorsett won't ever make teams pay but he'll make them answer the bell. That's a start. McIlrath can be the guy to make teams pay but will also be able to contribute to the game in other ways.

 

[Messiah717]

This is why Asham played a decent roll. This team keeps useless crap on this roster yet a guy with toughness is expendable

 

[theProdigy223]

Yeah I liked Asham. Not only could he fight pretty well but he actually SCORED a few times too. Some of his goals were of pretty good shots too, not garbage goals. But no, lets trot out Pyatt and Moore for the 4th line who couldnt score if their lives depended on it and add zero in toughness. I guess they thought Dorsett played a similar role with more offense, but I haven't seen that yet.

 

[panzerporter]

I like Dorsett and would play him over Moore, Pyatt & Boyle but he deters nothing as evidenced by his numerous fights, he's got heart but strikes fear into no one. I'm naming Orr and Scott because they were ex-Rangers who prevented things from happening in the first place since few guys will fight them.

 

[Pollmi]

Paid $320 for us to see that garbage. Still pissed ! Seeing the non-call on Miller live (I'm watching from the side Rangers shoot 2x) was hard to take.

 

[nj cup]

skip ahead to 1:10 better yet go to 2:20


now tell me who's goal looked more like it was being kicked in? a guy stopping who has 5 career nhl goals. or your captain who is a 20 goal scorer?

watching the reaction of the 2 goalies to both being called goals. can you tell which one is a playoff game or a regular season game? lol o queenie

 

[Ranger71]

Cmon cup, even though Janssens a slug talent wise you could see he saw the puck and turned his skate to guide it, even if he didnt actually kick at it. The league just needs to be more consistent with that call, Miller had a less blatant play waived off earlier this year.

 

[chuckd3534]

Dude, it clearly should NOT have counted. But that isn't what cost the Rangers the game. So don't be an ass, it should have been no goal. But any Ranger fan who acts like that no call cost them the game is off also IMO.

 

[nj cup]

jansen is clearly stopping in the play his foot never changes direction it never makes a follow through as it would if he kicked it.


i dont know about any play that miller had in the year but looking at that play for jansen that was 10000000% a goal. say because i'm a devils fan no its just an easy call.


his stopping it hits his skate there is no motion or follow through his foot doesn't leave the ice. did he miss it with his stick yes. did he try to direct it in with his skate yes. BOTH ARE ALLOWED. your allowed to direct the puck in with your skate.

 

[nj cup]

Cmon cup, even though Janssens a slug talent wise you could see he saw the puck and turned his skate to guide it, even if he didnt actually kick at it. The league just needs to be more consistent with that call, Miller had a less blatant play waived off earlier this year.

your allowed to "guide" the puck or turn your skate to guide it in. your not allowed to "kick" it in

 

[chuckd3534]

Stopping or not, his skate/foot was moving forward towards the net and the puck kicked in off of it. And I have seen that "goal" disallowed many many times. That's just the way it is. If I had never seen it disallowed maybe we could talk, but I have seen it happen many times before.

 

[Ranger71]

Exactly, they just need to be consistent if thats the way theyre going to interpret it. Personally i think guiding and kicking are similar enough and premeditated so both should be disallowed. If its a bang bang deflection thats one thing.

 

[chuckd3534]

I agree. If you will disallow kicks, then to me when a goal goes in like Janssen's did it should be no goal. Otherwise it is way too difficult of a call to make. You then have to get into reading a persons mind or intent, and it becomes way too gray. It should be more black and white, not less.

 

[nj cup]

i agree they should just make everything a goal. no more motion or intent or anything like that. any goal off the skate counts.


that was a good goal though by the definition of the rule fyi. its a total judgement call though thats the problem its not a yes or no like it would be on a high stick call.

 

[chuckd3534]

All I know is I have seen that exact same "goal" get disallowed. So to me it should have been no goal, but I also don't think that 1 goal is the reason the game went the way it did.

So you say it is a good goal by the rule, I say that doesn't phase me much because I have seen that goal disallowed in the past AND we are also assuming Janssen didn't intentionally kick it in, which he very well may have or may not have...who knows.

Is what it is.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

They need to do away with no kicking. .. no batting with a glove... as long as it's not a stick above the crossbar it should count. The kick non kick is so inconsistent

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