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Neil: sign with us for one year and next summer i promise to give you the Myers Leonard treatment *wink wink*.
 
It really is a suck situation. The better he plays the more of a chance we have of becoming a contender, but the better he plays the less of a chance we can keep him. Its a true conundrum.
Was he enough of an addition to get us to the wfc? Time will tell, but it will be heartbreak no matter what, right? To know that he was the piece that got us there and because he got us there, he will be too valuable to be able to retain???

Life of a Blazer fan. Fuck.
 
If only we hadn't made this year's finals. ;)

:cheers:
 
With Hood and Kanter coming to the team I'd hardly say it sucks...if it's a rental so be it but Kanter is not coming off a rookie contract looking for big bucks...he's been paid well..I'd expect him to want to return and if I'm wrong...he won't...is what it is but I'm not foreseeing failure here
 
Success breads success.

For all we know, Enis' endorsement, and a decent showing in the playoffs, may finally entice other players to choose Team Dame
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Trading CJ for a good young player on a rookie contract might solve a lot of problems, if a team had enough cap space/non-guaranteed contracts to make that happen.
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That's what I've said for years. The vastly overpaid McCollum is the root of our financial problems. Everyone else wanted to talk about Turner or Leonard or even our bargains, Aminu and Ed Davis.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Trading CJ for a good young player on a rookie contract might solve a lot of problems, if a team had enough cap space/non-guaranteed contracts to make that happen.
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Non-guaranteed contracts only count in trades what the non-guaranteed amount is as of a new rule last year. So that basically leaves a desperate team that struck out in free agency. The problem with that is it would likely be after most free agents had signed so it wouldn't benefit us until next summer.

The trade deadline would've been the time to make a move like that.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Short answer - they can't.

And this is why I grit my teeth and snarl every time some chowder head tries to tell me it doesn't matter that Olshey overpaid for a bunch of scrubs. "It's not your money!" they cry. No, but it is the team I root for and Olshey F'ed them royally! He finally tripped over a couple of guys in Hood and Kanter that might help - and there is no way to keep them. I'm not even betting that we can/will keep Jake!
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No Way? They can - make it to the WCF and everyone will want to stay. Not easy, but simple.

I get the feeling that even if Olshey somehow pulled off a Championship people would say he "tripped" into it.
 
Unlikely but...

Trade ET and a 1st for nothing.
Trade Meyers, Harkless, and 2nds for nothing.

Use the $18M in cap space to bring back Kanter ($11M) and Hood ($7M). Bring back Layman as the starting SF.

Offer the cap-room exception to Aminu. If he walks, Collins is the starting PF, and you offer it to Curry. I think Seth would take it.

Lillard (36) / Curry (12)
McCollum (35) / Hood (8) / Curry (5)
Layman (15) / Hood (18) / Trent (15)
Collins (24) / Layman (16) / Skal (6) / Kanter (2)
Nurkic (27) / Kanter (21)
 
I like the Kanter era SO FAR but if the Trade gods allowed us to clear ET/Nards/and Hark before FA next year I’d wanna do better than Kanter/Hood.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Kindly please explain how, realistically. :)
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It’s up to Olshey to figure it out. That’s his job. This is the biggest free agent signing of his tenure, and he knows how rare it is for a player to choose Portland over a team like the Lakers. I think Olshey was looking to the future with this signing, and never saw it as a short-term rental. I wouldn’t be surprised if he and Kanter have already talked about Kanter’s future in Portland.
 
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Binx said:
It’s up to Olshey to figure it out. That’s his job. This is the biggest free agent signings of his tenure, and he knows how rare it is for a free agent to choose Portland over a team like the Lakers, as Kanter did. I think Olshey is thrilled and grateful that Kanter signed with Portland, and I think he’s going to make a very strong move to keep him.
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Ugh. You are missing the point.

The rules put limits on what olshey can do...

Id love to hear the details of that strong move? The cap rules are there for all to review and dissect.
There are several posters breaking down the limited options and almost every one significantly thins the rest of the roster.

One last time. Its all on Kanter and what he values. When the money is the same, sure he chose Portland. But when another team offers him 12 mill and we can only offer 5.5, you really think olshey whispering sweat nothings into his ear will be the major tipping factor?

The only way we retain him is if he values winning over money aNd that may happen. But its all on him. Not the team or olshey.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Ugh. You are missing the point.

The rules put limits on what olshey can do...

Id love to hear the details of that strong move? The cap rules are there for all to review and dissect.
There are several posters breaking down the limited options and almost every one significantly thins the rest of the roster.

One last time. Its all on Kanter and what he values. When the money is the same, sure he chose Portland. But when another team offers him 12 mill and we can only offer 5.5, you really think olshey whispering sweat nothings into his ear will be the major tipping factor?

The only way we retain him is if he values winning over money aNd that may happen. But its all on him. Not the team or olshey.
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No man, Olshey's a bum if he can't circumvent the salary cap to keep him.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I think they need to drop ET's minutes and play Zach for interior defense.
The way they keep him, I don't know their going to be in an awkward position because of the cap this summer.
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ET is paid way too much and constantly chokes. The Nets game proved it! He goes 0-5 fumbles into a turnover and then fouls.
 
Orion Bailey said:
The rules put limits on what olshey can do...
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Doesn't stop Morey in Houston...the rules can be manipulated.(trading a player that you end up signing again)..the Cavs are a small market that went deep into the luxury tax and made multiple finals appearances with a ring to boot.....who says Portland couldn't do the same. We're not broke like New Orleans or Memphis seem to be all the time...I think we're headed in the right direction.
 
riverman said:
Doesn't stop Morey in Houston...the rules can be manipulated.(trading a player that you end up signing again)..the Cavs are a small market that went deep into the luxury tax and made multiple finals appearances with a ring to boot.....who says Portland couldn't do the same. We're not broke like New Orleans or Memphis seem to be all the time...I think we're headed in the right direction.
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Well now we are basing it off of Jody wanting to pay a ton of penalty money.
I thought we were talking about within the confines of not mortgaging our future. Where is cleveland now and houston hasnt won and is already looking like a lesser monster than last year. I think the houston thing is almost over and will cost them for many more years.

We are talking about how to keep Kanter while remaining a contender for the next few years. And not giving away the next decade. Gutting the team will not provide that in my opinion.
 
riverman said:
Doesn't stop Morey in Houston...the rules can be manipulated.(trading a player that you end up signing again)..the Cavs are a small market that went deep into the luxury tax and made multiple finals appearances with a ring to boot.....who says Portland couldn't do the same. We're not broke like New Orleans or Memphis seem to be all the time...I think we're headed in the right direction.
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Yet we can only offer so much money to free agents. Not really about being broke or not...
 
BonesJones said:
Yet we can only offer so much money to free agents. Not really about being broke or not...
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you can make trades even for future picks and dump salary or pay the luxury tax...my example was Cleveland when Lebron went back there...many teams are looking to this offseason with so many players that will be available. We always have the Nets...…...our G league team
 
Fez Von Savage said:
He's exactly what this bench has been missing. We all knew that he is a complete zero on defense, but he's a top-5 scoring big - easily.

This system can use him to his strengths -- exactly how Memphis utilized Randolph, which revived his career.

In short, is it even possible?
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Foresight with financial flexibility with our roster would be awesome. Let me know when that happens.
 
Despite his stellar stats per minute, all 3 of his teams have gotten rid of him and his temper. I would keep him, but not if we have to pay much. He's not all that wanted around the league and I think our chances of keeping him economically are 50-50.
 
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