How would you fix the bench?

[KingSpeed]

Eric do you understand how unbelievably horrible 6 points from the bench is?

Washington got 26 points from their bench.

You guys are talking about turnovers, but their bench outscored our bench by 20 points. That's insane.

I said the bench wasn't good tonight. But they weren't why we lost. Turnovers by STARTERS in first half. And then at the end, Washington was missing everything and Lillard/Batum/Matthews couldn't hit shots.

 

[illmatic99]

When Mo is on the floor, CJ et al hardly even TOUCH the ball? I wish they kept a stat on dribbles per possession. Mo would lead the league. Most of his coming of the useless variety where he neither moves forward or backward. Just laterally to a horrible shot attempt.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I think we need an anti-rep concept. Bring it up in your next mods only meeting

Yeah, Like Obama is the anti-christ, shit-for-eyes-Americans...

 

[Natebishop3]

Mo wasn 't our problem in this game. you want to blame the bench? what did McCollum, Robinson contributed lately, you say it's on Mo - newsflash, they're not that good. Our bench is not perfect in terms of playing with each other, it will get better, but it's not really playing 5, then 2nd five, we're gonna start shuffling our lineups, giving minutes for guys like CJ, Robinson only to rest the starters, I think we should get creative in what types of lineups we're playing out of our rop 8, I think we need to rest Nico, bring him back healthy in three weeks, bring him back hungry also. In the meantime have the other players do some defense, they're too used to watching Batum do it one on 5, there's a lot to win from this but first of all we need to agree we're not letting injured players play, especially if they're essential to our success.

Mo played 25 minutes tonight. He went 2-8 from the floor, 3 boards, 2 assists, 3 personal fouls and 2 turnovers.

Freeland played 12 minutes.
CJ played 10.5 minutes.
TRob played 6 minutes.

Mo is by far the bigger part of the problem because he plays so much. Robinson is barely even part of the rotation at this point.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I don't know if it's a "bench" issue as much as it's a "coach" issue.
Starters: 186 minutes.
Mo: 25 minutes. 2-8, 3 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl.

Every other dude on the bench: 29 minutes. 1-6, 9 reb, 2 blk, 1 ast, 2 to.

 

[Natebishop3]

I said the bench wasn't good tonight. But they weren't why we lost. Turnovers by STARTERS in first half. And then at the end, Washington was missing everything and Lillard/Batum/Matthews couldn't hit shots.

The starters couldn't hit shots because they're exhausted. You can't count on them to carry the scoring load through 4 quarters.

 

[KingSpeed]

We were at our best tonight when Mo was in the game. Fact.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Too much dribbling in the 2nd unit is an issue I agree with. Mc'Collum does it too.

 

[RoyToy]

As I said before when people were praising Olshey and wanting to give him a lifetime contract

It's not hard to go from bad to a playoff team. The hard part is going from a playoff team to being a real contender.

Despite their record, the Blazers are not a real contender right now. Way too flawed.

Olshey needs to take lessons from the Seahawks and learn how to build depth

 

[KingSpeed]

The starters couldn't hit shots because they're exhausted. You can't count on them to carry the scoring load through 4 quarters.

You're making that up. You have no idea if they are exhausted.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I said the bench wasn't good tonight. But they weren't why we lost. Turnovers by STARTERS in first half.

We were down 1 at the break.

And then at the end, Washington was missing everything and Lillard/Batum/Matthews couldn't hit shots.

There's a stretch of about 15 game minutes where we scored 18 points.

 

[B-Roy]

I think the biggest problem with Mo is that you either get good Mo or terrible Mo. There is no in between. And on a team with a bunch of young guys (especially the other bench players), you need a steadying presence. Mo is probably the opposite of consistent.

 

[ppilot]

Mo reminds me so much of Damon Stoudamire..... that's not a good thing.

Damon was such a better player it's not even funny. Right now Mo Williams is one of the worst PG's in the leage

 

[Strenuus]

We were at our best tonight when Mo was in the game. Fact.

That's how we got into that 17 point deficit in the 3rd. (You did say Starters in the FIRST half)... so...

 

[Strenuus]

As I said before when people were praising Olshey and wanting to give him a lifetime contract

It's not hard to go from bad to a playoff team. The hard part is going from a playoff team to being a real contender.

Despite their record, the Blazers are not a real contender right now. Way too flawed.

Olshey needs to take lessons from the Seahawks and learn how to build depth

Well, he better make moves quick.

 

[KingSpeed]

We were down 1 at the break.
There's a stretch of about 15 game minutes where we scored 18 points.

We were up 55-47 and then Wash closed the half on a 7-0 run en route to a 39-14 run

 

[KingSpeed]

That's how we got into that 17 point deficit in the 3rd. (You did say Starters in the FIRST half)... so...

Mo was +1.

 

[PapaG]

LMA had 6 assists tonight in 42 minutes.

McCollum has 6 assists on the season in 177 minutes.

Thomas Robinson averages more assists/36 than CJ. LOL

Robinson 1.3/36
McCollum 1.1/36

Yikes

 

[KingSpeed]

Tough game. I'm out.

 

[Strenuus]

Mo was +1.

Impressive? We still were only down 1, and then we lost it in the 2nd half... there were a TON of careless turnovers... so much so, I'd have to look at a game log to see just who did them.

 

[Strenuus]

LMA had 6 assists tonight in 42 minutes.

McCollum has 6 assists on the season in 177 minutes.

Thomas Robinson averages more assists/36 than CJ. LOL

Robinson 1.3/36
McCollum 1.1/36

Yikes

Cj doesn't play with a pass first PG... how is he supposed to get the ball?

 

[illmatic99]

Off my Mo hate tirade for a bit, the problem with trying to make a trade here is that we have like no expendable assets. CJ is probably our most desirable/expendable asset, but he neither has much value around the league (relatively unknown, coming off an injury), nor does he make much $ to bring back a solid contributor in return. Unless you put a package together with him, Meyers/TRob, and Mo, you're not gonna get much back. And by then, you won't have enough bodies on the team to make much difference. This season, the development seemingly HAS to come from within. Just sucks that Mo is our PG on that unit, because he absolutely the worst fit you can think of. #forgotaboutdre

 

[PapaG]

Cj doesn't play with a pass first PG... how is he supposed to get the ball?

Mo Williams leads the NBA in assists off of the bench.

CJ is FUCKING TERRIBLE right now. Bench him and give Claver a shot. At least Claver may be able to play a bit of defense.

 

[santeesioux]

Earl, Allen, Victor, come on down!

Seriously, why aren't these guys still not getting any burn?

 

[RoyToy]

LMA had 6 assists tonight in 42 minutes.

McCollum has 6 assists on the season in 177 minutes.

Thomas Robinson averages more assists/36 than CJ. LOL

Robinson 1.3/36
McCollum 1.1/36

Yikes

I think most of us realized CJ wasn't the next Lillard in summer league

What could be troubing is CJ seems like a guy that needs the ball in his hands to do his thing. Him and Lillard playing together could be difficult.

 

[Strenuus]

Mo Williams leads the NBA in assists off of the bench.

CJ is FUCKING TERRIBLE right now. Bench him and give Claver a shot. At least Claver may be able to play a bit of defense.

I'd love to see if those assists are with about 4 or less on the SC.

I'd give Claver a shot. Hell, I'd trade CJ and be okay with it. We gotta get a better bench somehow, someway.

 

[B-Roy]

Mo for Dre actually makes a lot of sense for both teams with Robinson out for the season. I doubt it happens though because of Miller's history with us.

 

[Blazer4ever]

We played 7 deep in the 2nd half with just Mo, Freeland. CJ, RObinson played just in the 1st half and had very little impact. In the short minutes we played "our bench" plus Wesley, Wesley made most shots but we weren't losing, I don't think CJ, RObinson had a minus on the court. Mo and CJ still need to establish their identity for playing together, dribble less, that'll happen, or will happen as much as possible for when playing with Robinson, Freeland on offense.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Yeah, Like Obama is the anti-christ, shit-for-eyes-Americans...

I feel like you've been waiting forever to use this line and finally got your shot but it was the way wrong time...

 

[Strenuus]

I think most of us realized CJ wasn't the next Lillard in summer league

What could be troubing is CJ seems like a guy that needs the ball in his hands to do his thing. Him and Lillard playing together could be difficult.

I think most peoples reservations is they wanted to see some games out of him before trading him and seeing him light it up (perhaps) somewhere else.