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Mediocre Man said:
41 now dead. The city of Beaumont has no clean water. That's a population of 120,000 people.
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5 in 6 have no flood insurance.

Average FEMA grant per family will be $5,000.

Max federal loan to repair home will be $50,000 but that could take years to get for many people.

The people of Houston are truly fucked.

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The good news is you guys don't have many environmental laws so most people will just throw up new sheetrock and paint and call it fixed.

And the NW used car lots will be "flooded" with cheap flood damaged Texas cars with clear titles.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
5 in 6 have no flood insurance.

Average FEMA grant per family will be $5,000.

Max federal loan to repair home will be $50,000 but that could take years to get for many people.

The people of Houston are truly fucked.

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The good news is you guys don't have many environmental laws so most people will just throw up new sheetrock and paint and call it fixed.

And the NW used car lots will be "flooded" with cheap flood damaged Texas cars with clear titles.
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Cars will most likely go to Mexico. That's whete most wholesale cars go anyway.

Like I said earlier. I am one of those that does not have flood insurance. For me it's a matter of risk over cost. For others it's that they live in a damn flood plain and can't get flood insurance. Sucks.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Cars will most likely go to Mexico. That's whete most wholesale cars go anyway.

Like I said earlier. I am one of those that does not have flood insurance. For me it's a matter of risk over cost. For others it's that they live in a damn flood plain and can't get flood insurance. Sucks.
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They said on the CBS news tonight that flood insurance in non flood plains costs $200 a year.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
They said on the CBS news tonight that flood insurance in non flood plains costs $200 a year.
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Can't speak to that, but mine was quoted a couple of years ago at $180 per month, on top of my regular homeownets insurance. Maybe because of my proximity to the river?
 
Only the government could sell flood insurance to home owners with a house where it can flood. umm, that is not really insurance.
 
Mediocre Man said:
So far. This shit isnt over. Now the rivers become the issue. I am by a major river that is supposed to crest Saturday. It could easily flood my entire neighborhood. All , or most of the flooding you see on the news is above me. At dome point that has to flow down through me and to the gulf.
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I sincerely hope you and all get through this without too much loss....thoughts with you and yours MM....I've lived through something similar...it's no fun bro..as to mosquitos and other pests.....when I lived in Taipei and the SARS virus happened, the only thing that stopped it was bleach...they put 50 gallon drums on every street corner and had everyone spray the neighborhood with it....also good to wear a surgical mask..it was law in Taipei to wear the mask in public and you had to have your temperature checked just to go into a store....eventually they contained it....wash your hands really often also helped...it was strange riding the subway when everyone wore masks.....only could see folks eyes...hope you find high ground if the floods hit home!
 
MarAzul said:
Only the government could sell flood insurance to home owners with a house where it can flood. umm, that is not really insurance.
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I don't understand. If you buy insurance from the government, it's not insurance?

barfo
 
crandc said:
Actually, riverman, Obama was helping with relief during Katrina...

Apparently mediocre man considers it OK for Trump to use cover of hurricane to overrule equal pay and overturn one more thing "the black guy" did (which seems to be Trump's entire platform) but to take notice of what he did under cover of hurricane is not OK?

Also, let us remember, catastrophic floods in parts of Asia. Humanity does not end at the U.S. borders, and those countries have far fewer resources and no celebs doing telethons. So while sending donations to Red Cross and Human Society, consider including Doctors Without Borders or UNICEF as well.
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I worked at a medical college for the Tsi Chi Foundation for many years.....Jane Goodall and the Dalai Lama were involved with their disaster relief program..I was honored to meet them both. .they are first responders in Africa, Asia and were first responders for Katrina....we gave 20 bucks a month for decades to the foundation and volunteered for beach cleanup yearly in eastern Taiwan....the lack of funding for UNICEF and Doctors without borders is shameful...I'm a believer in the good works these folks do...disasters are no time for political bickering..they are a time for stacking sandbags....I grew up in the floodplains of the Missouri River Valley in Iowa...we had tornados and floods all throughout my childhood....communities bonded behind these disasters...the best of humanity will be found in Texas helping folks deal.
 
Mediocre Man said:
It's only about me because people asked how we were. This thread is more about the political agendas of others than anything else.
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Not on my account.....this is not fake news or a political rally....
 
riverman said:
Our national leadership is part of disaster relief and the conversation.....it's valid to address what's being done..it's also a time to set aside differences and look beyond popularity polls
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What's being done about the hurricane is different than bringing up wage issues.
 
Mediocre Man said:
What's being done about the hurricane is different than bringing up wage issues.
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I didn't read about that....just concerned for all y'all.......my half brother lived down there all his life...he passed away recently but I have friends in Texas..no one is in danger so far...again MM...I hope you're safe.
 
barfo said:
I don't understand. If you buy insurance from the government, it's not insurance?
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He's saying that it's not insurance when you're living in a place relatively guaranteed to be flooded and only the government could sell a losing product like that.

Are homes on flood plains generally cheaper? I would assume so, but not living in such an area, I don't know. If they are, then presumably the people there can't just choose to live somewhere safer (because they can't afford it), so that probably is an example where the government should be involved in "insuring" (or guaranteeing, or whatever term you want to use) people's homes.
 
Minstrel said:
He's saying that it's not insurance when you're living in a place relatively guaranteed to be flooded and only the government could sell a losing product like that.

Are homes on flood plains generally cheaper? I would assume so, but not living in such an area, I don't know. If they are, then presumably the people there can't just choose to live somewhere safer (because they can't afford it), so that probably is an example where the government should be involved in "insuring" (or guaranteeing, or whatever term you want to use) people's homes.
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The government should be involved in prohibiting building in floodplains. Of course that will never happen in Texas, because freedom.

barfo
 
theprunetang said:
Hopefully that beast drifts north and east. It would dissipate in the north Atlantic, maybe giving Maine some slight weather.
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It wouldnt dissipate before hitting Maine.

It would pass right over the gulf stream which would supply it with warm enough water, and storms usually speed up when they head north. Irma would be the perfect recipe for a Cat 3 landfall in Maine.
 
MarAzul said:
Only the government could sell flood insurance to home owners with a house where it can flood. umm, that is not really insurance.
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Why insure against a threat that cant happen? Therefore insurance doesnt exist at all...?
 
The Professional Fan said:
Potential tracks. Jesus.
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Exactly what I was talking about earlier.

Harvey was just the warmup.

Irma won't receive fast enough to miss the United States. It's already on a latitude even with Texas and Florida with a ridge to its north.

Never seen a storm so far out that is so likely to make a US landfall as a major hurricane.
 
BonesJones said:
Exactly what I was talking about earlier.

Harvey was just the warmup.

Irma won't receive fast enough to miss the United States. It's already on a latitude even with Texas and Florida with a ridge to its north.

Never seen a storm so far out that is so likely to make a US landfall as a major hurricane.
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Our meteorologists down here say it's to soon to tell, but with a high front coming down from the north, it should push Irma east and avoid land fall. That's what they ste saying anyway
 
BonesJones said:
Exactly what I was talking about earlier.

Harvey was just the warmup.

Irma won't receive fast enough to miss the United States. It's already on a latitude even with Texas and Florida with a ridge to its north.

Never seen a storm so far out that is so likely to make a US landfall as a major hurricane.
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As for warmup,what made Harvey so devastating was it's lack of speed. It hit land as a category 4, and then pretty much stopped. It was a 1000 year storm, according to the news
 
Playing devils advocate for a moment...

So people built houses in Areas where it is a flood zone so dangerous they can't get flood insurance, but they built the houses in those zones anyhow and now expect others to pay for the damage????

Hmmmmmmmm
 
Orion Bailey said:
Playing devils advocate for a moment...

So people built houses in Areas where it is a flood zone so dangerous they can't get flood insurance, but they built the houses in those zones anyhow and now expect others to pay for the damage????

Hmmmmmmmm
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The people didn't build the houses. Reckless developers did.
 
barfo said:
The government should be involved in prohibiting building in floodplains. Of course that will never happen in Texas, because freedom.
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I considered that, but assuming that it's a source of low-cost housing, that could be a problem for people who can't afford homes elsewhere. Maybe it's still the right course of action, I don't know. And if floodplain housing isn't cheaper, then yeah, it probably shouldn't be built at all.
 
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-08-31-20-43-46

WHITE HOUSE READIES $5.9B REQUEST FOR HARVEY RECOVERY AID

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House is preparing an initial $5.9 billion package in Harvey aid, a first down payment to ensure recovery efforts over the next few weeks are adequately funded.

The Trump proposal, which is being finalized pending White House consultations with key Republicans, is likely to be just a fraction of an eventual Harvey recovery package that could rival the $100-billion-plus in taxpayer-financed help for victims of 2005's Hurricane Katrina.
 
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