Hypothetical: What is the most you would give up for Cousins?

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I go back and fourth on this. I compare him to LMA in a way. I wanted LMA to stay in Portland, but I wanted him to be the 3rd option on offense. And be happy about it. That would have made us real contenders.

If we got Cousins, would we really want to run the offense through him? Slowing everything down? Having him as the 3rd option after Dame and CJ would be awesome. But would he ever go for that? I think he would....for about 2 weeks.

I think him being the first option would really open up Lillard and have him take better shots. I'd think both CJ and Lillard's FG% would go up as would their shot selection.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Bigmen who attract double teams are making the game easier for perimeter players.
That's the basic truth.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think him being the first option would really open up Lillard and have him take better shots. I'd think both CJ and Lillard's FG% would go up as would their shot selection.

I admit Cousins is a very good passer for a big man. Better than LMA. So maybe you are right. But I am enjoying the offense this year much more than the last few. I would hate going back to throwing it inside first and waiting for it to come back out. I like watching Lillard and CJ in more of an attack mode. If they had someone like Cousins to dump it off to it would be even better. But I want the guards to create the offense, not the other way around. But we do need to have both options, so I can see how we would be better off.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[illmatic99]

Cuz would not be the first option.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

This situation is a carbon copy of the end of Sheed's stay here.

Put DMC in a situation where he doesn't have to be the leader and you'll see a different player/attitude.

He obviously can't handle that and loses his composure over ticky-tacky shit.

That's one reason why I think he'd fit in great with Lillard.

 

[RR7]

Cousins is definitely a hot head, but unlike some idiots, like an early Artest, or like JR Smith maybe, I think Cousins' temper comes from a good place. I think he's ultra competitive and hates to lose. Like the time he pulled Isiah Thomas away from shaking Clippers' hands after a game. I love shit like that. Screw you. I don't like you. I don't want to be buddy buddy with you. I doubt he's had a lot of respect for most of his teammates, rightfully so. He's played with a whole lot of shit his entire career. I think he'd respect Dame as a leader and we'd get the best out of him, instead of him getting to play star on a shitty franchise.

However, again, I don't see it happening, but I'd love it to. I think we'll try at the draft, if not before the deadline. Offer up our pick(after selected) as well as whatever else to see if we can land him. I don't think Neil is envisioning a long term rebuild where we acquire a ton of draft picks and young players.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Draco]

Just not sure if I'd do a DMC trade. I don't see us with enough talent to win a playoff round and also give Sacramento the assets they require. Maybe we build a package with CJ, or a package with basically everyone else except CJ and Dame; but then we'd have very little talent on the rest of the roster. We need more starters to build a team that will keep DMC here when he is eligible to resign in two years. I don't want to lose talent in a trade then have that player bolt as LaMarcus did.

I agree he would do well with a fresh start but I don't know if he is an ideal big man to complement the style of play we see from CJ and Dame. Our guards play better with garbage bucket bigs that role to the hoop and allow them to run the offense. Who knows maybe a DMC team with Dame and CJ would be great but there is that unknown risk the offense won't be much better than now.

So yeah I'd rather see the Blazers work on getting another starting level talent on this team. We need to build the talent base before we look at trading for an allstar who pushes us to contention.

 

[BonesJones]

 

[H.C.]

Yea, people forget that Kamen was considered a problem maker as well as an angry dumbass.
In Portland he is the perfect teammate and gets along great with the coach.

A lot of people are considered a problem maker, and an angry dumbass when they're on the clippers.

 

[jlprk]

Cousins' shot chart this season:
http://vorped.com/1-nba/2015-2016/player/910/demarcus-cousins/shotchart/

Nice site. Needs better labeling. I'll be stealing it to quote it here.

 

[jlprk]

A lot of people are considered a problem maker, and an angry dumbass when they're on the clippers.

The career of our very own Sydney Wicks ended there in arguments with Coach Paul Silas.

 

[Blazers Roy]

A lot of people are considered a problem maker, and an angry dumbass when they're on the clippers.

He had beefs with Carlisle in Dallas and with D'Antoni with the Lakers as well.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

He had beefs with Carlisle in Dallas and with D'Antoni with the Lakers as well.

Yep. Kaman said that Stotts is the only coach he has played for that he hasn't wanted to punch.

 

[BlazerWookee]

What about a hectare of back hair?

Not a single are of back hair.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

1-2: Collison/CJ/McLemore
3: Gay/Acy
4-5: Plumlee/Cauley-Stein

1: Lillard
2: Bellinelli/Crabbe
3: Casspi/Aminu
4-5: Davis/Biebs/Cousins

 

[BonesJones]

1-2: Collison/CJ/McLemore
3: Gay/Acy
4-5: Plumlee/Cauley-Stein

1: Lillard
2: Bellinelli/Crabbe
3: Casspi/Aminu
4-5: Davis/Biebs/Cousins

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Hell no. DMC is at most a very slight upgrade from McCollum, while being a bigger downgrade in the locker room. Bellinelli is overpaid, and even worse than CJ defensively (isnt that the problem yall are tryna fix?). Casspi is trash.

And then on top of it were giving up Vonleh and Plumlee? Thats an awful idea.

 

[dviss1]

I wouldn't trade my psoriasis for Cousins.

 

[dviss1]

He had beefs with Carlisle in Dallas and with D'Antoni with the Lakers as well.

Who didn't have beef with the Pringles man on the Lakers?

 

[Blazers Roy]

i'm just gonna put this here:

56 pts game:

48 pts game:


No way they are giving us Cousins now, we should've gotten him when\if the price was low

 

[HailBlazers]

Big IF there^ , especially with Vlade in the fold.

Regardless, there are some players I just don't want on my team. Take Westbrook for example, I don't care how good he is, I could never root for him.

 

[Tunchi]

Big IF there^ , especially with Vlade in the fold.

Regardless, there are some players I just don't want on my team. Take Westbrook for example, I don't care how good he is, I could never root for him.

Why? Their not trouble makers with the law. Hardly anything close to even the jail Blazers. The play with incredible intensity that's border line insane with how competitive they are..

I love players like that on my team that will run thru a brick wall to get a W.. I don't know why that's a bad thing

 

[Pinwheel1]

Cousins is phenomenal. Yet he has never made the playoffs. So if we give up a lot to get him, would we make the playoffs in the last two years of his contract? He has also never been a free agent. When he becomes one, you have to believe he will be courted by everyone. The chances of him staying in Portland become low. Then what happens to Dame after Cousins leaves and we have little to show for the trade?

Bottom line is Cousins is not going anywhere unless Sacramento gets a King's ransom for him. And we do not have enough to trade for him and win afterwards. Our only chance is for Cousins to implode. I guess it is still possible.

 

[BBert]

Sacto should trade him while he's hot.

 

[HailBlazers]

Why? Their not trouble makers with the law. Hardly anything close to even the jail Blazers. The play with incredible intensity that's border line insane with how competitive they are..

I love players like that on my team that will run thru a brick wall to get a W.. I don't know why that's a bad thing

I guess I just don't want to spend my hard earned money and time rooting for people I don't like.

 

[brendanjames]

Is there anyone in the NBA that people in this forum do like or think are Portland worthy. I hear a lot of delusional trash talked about some awesome players in this forum.

 

[blue9]

Cousins is phenomenal. Yet he has never made the playoffs. So if we give up a lot to get him, would we make the playoffs in the last two years of his contract? He has also never been a free agent. When he becomes one, you have to believe he will be courted by everyone. The chances of him staying in Portland become low. Then what happens to Dame after Cousins leaves and we have little to show for the trade?

Bottom line is Cousins is not going anywhere unless Sacramento gets a King's ransom for him. And we do not have enough to trade for him and win afterwards. Our only chance is for Cousins to implode. I guess it is still possible.

I have to think that SAC will trade him in the last year of his contract AT THE LATEST. There's no way he's going to re-sign with them. But if they wait that long they'll get less in return.

 

[Natebishop3]

Is there anyone in the NBA that people in this forum do like or think are Portland worthy. I hear a lot of delusional trash talked about some awesome players in this forum.

It's just homers being homers. A lot of the same people were desperate to hold onto Aldridge, and he's a cancerous piece of human garbage as well. If he had started out his career on another team, I doubt those same people would have wanted him.

 

[BBert]

Is there anyone in the NBA that people in this forum do like or think are Portland worthy. I hear a lot of delusional trash talked about some awesome players in this forum.

I like Anthony Davis. I'd also take Durant, but he has to sign as a free agent.