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I'm starting a group to raise money for an ad that will suggest if Osama Bin Laden's mom had the good sense to have an abortion 9/11 wouldn't have happened. Please PM me for Paypal information.

If you hate America, feel free to disagree with me.
 
Blazer_Hippie said:
I'm starting a group to raise money for an ad that will suggest if Osama Bin Laden's mom had the good sense to have an abortion 9/11 wouldn't have happened. Please PM me for Paypal information.

If you hate America, feel free to disagree with me.
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No doubt. Hitler had certain philosophies regarding the Jews. The only real way to be sure is to do away with them all if there are any concerns.
 
Hey, I've got an idea....Let's have a 72-hour right of rescission rule on babies. In other words, if at birth, they're ugly as all get-out, or otherwise problematic (multiples, etc.), the parent(s) would have 72 hours to abort him/her/them.

Plus, it would be kinda neat to have the 1-week clause. Meaning, if Daddy loses his job within 1 week of birth, the parents would have the right to abort baby at that time. Although, if Congress gets involved that might very well be extended to two weeks...or longer.

Film @ 11.
 
ABM said:
Hey, I've got an idea....Let's have a 72-hour right of rescission rule on babies. In other words, if at birth, they're ugly as all get-out, or otherwise problematic (multiples, etc.), the parent(s) would have 72 hours to abort him/her/them.

Plus, it would be kinda neat to have the 1-week clause. Meaning, if Daddy loses his job within 1 week of birth, the parents would have the right to abort baby at that time. Although, if Congress gets involved that might very well be extended to two weeks...or longer.

Film @ 11.
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Yah, because that's the same thing.
 
ABM said:
Hey, I've got an idea....Let's have a 72-hour right of rescission rule on babies. In other words, if at birth, they're ugly as all get-out, or otherwise problematic (multiples, etc.), the parent(s) would have 72 hours to abort him/her/them.

Plus, it would be kinda neat to have the 1-week clause. Meaning, if Daddy loses his job within 1 week of birth, the parents would have the right to abort baby at that time. Although, if Congress gets involved that might very well be extended to two weeks...or longer.

Film @ 11.
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I smell a reality TV blockbuster!
 
STOMP said:
we've established that kids are going to have sex whether they have access to birth control or not and that abstinence only doesn't work....
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Stop the presses! ;)

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0203/1224263659138.html

US research could be important in protecting teens against pregnancy and STDs, writes ROB STEIN in Washington

SEX EDUCATION classes that focus on encouraging children to remain abstinent can convince a significant proportion to delay sexual activity, researchers reported this week.

The landmark study in the US could have major implications for the protection of young people against unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)..................
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People turn out the way they do because of how they are raised, not how they are conceived.

Either commit to put some lifelong effort into raising your child right, or don't have one.

If you are pregnant, and for whatever reason not going to be responsible for your children, please abort.
 
MARIS61 said:
People turn out the way they do because of how they are raised, not how they are conceived.

Either commit to put some lifelong effort into raising your child right, or don't have one.

If you are pregnant, and for whatever reason not going to be responsible for your children, please abort.
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this
 
MARIS61 said:
If you are pregnant, and for whatever reason not going to be responsible for your children, please abort.
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Adoption is out of the question, eh? In case you didn't know, there are many, many fully qualified and responsible couples out there who aren't able to bear children.

Jus' sayin' :)
 
ABM said:
Stop the presses! ;)

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0203/1224263659138.html
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As with most abstinence studies promoted by white fundamentalists , the motivations are clearly racist in nature. The goal is to stop or decrease minority breeding.

Despite being held up as some sort of national indicator, every single subject of this study was black, a decided minority in this nation, rendering the outlandish opinions and conclusions laughable and inapplicable to our mostly white nation.

Not surprising that the IrishTimes finds solace in it.
 
ABM said:
Adoption is out of the question, eh? In case you didn't know, there are many, many fully qualified and responsible couples out there who aren't able to bear children.

Jus' sayin' :)
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As I write this post there are an estimated 210 Million orphans in the world, 150 Million of them live on the street mostly as sex slaves, 60 Million of them each night go hungry.

So the claim that these so-called prospective ideal parents actually exist somewhere is ridiculous. Each and every one of them could be a parent of a lovely child in a matter of weeks if that was truly their goal.

What does exist are some self-centered over-inflated egos that want to hand-pick their children as if they were on a shopping trip. Probably the worst choice for a parent. Think Dr. Mengele.

A very, very good friend of mine, having somehow survived raising 2 children (1 is in prison) and 1 stepchild who intentionally tried to burn his house down in anger, is now re-married and 55 years old. His new wife wants a baby so they are throwing away $40,000 to some shark of a lawyer and will no doubt raise a befuddled and confused child to near-adulthood and then die, leaving the teen alone in the world with no direction and nobody to turn to.

Jus' sayin.
 
MARIS61 said:
A very, very good friend of mine, having somehow survived raising 2 children (1 is in prison) and 1 stepchild who intentionally tried to burn his house down in anger, is now re-married and 55 years old. His new wife wants a baby so they are throwing away $40,000 to some shark of a lawyer and will no doubt raise a befuddled and confused child to near-adulthood and then die, leaving the teen alone in the world with no direction and nobody to turn to.

Jus' sayin.
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I feel for the orphans, but there's no sin in wanting a baby. IMO, you might want to be careful of putting that type of "guilt trip" on the situation.
 
westnob said:
...wife beating is awful, but I think we're passed it.
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Sadly, no.

Primary groups of spousal abusers include anyone in a position of authority (military, law enforcement, attorneys, CEO's...) and runs several times higher in the gay and Muslim communities.

As with nearly all the evils in the human psyche, low self-esteem is the root cause.

edit: I did not mean this as an attack on the general membership of those particular groups mentioned. Just that abuse is a control issue, a power trip, and those groups are known to attract a high percentage of people with low self-esteem, out to prove they are powerful.
 
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MARIS61 said:
Sadly, no.

Primary groups of spousal abusers include anyone in a position of authority (military, law enforcement, attorneys, CEO's...) and runs several times higher in the gay and Muslim communities.

As with nearly all the evils in the human psyche, low self-esteem is the root cause.
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I guess I should have said, it is known to be wrong in the US. Perhaps I am too hopeful, naive about it.
 
ABM said:
I feel for the orphans, but there's no sin in wanting a baby. IMO, you might want to be careful of putting that type of "guilt trip" on the situation.
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I'm athiestic and don't believe in the existence of "sin".

I do believe in and live by "The Golden Rule", and under that definition someone who would let a child starve to death or be raped for years on end in exchange for the purchase of an "unspoiled replica of themselves" is not fit to raise anyone.

To paraphrase Daffy Duck, "They are dethpsicable!"
 
MARIS61 said:
I do believe in and live by "The Golden Rule", and under that definition someone who would let a child starve to death or be raped for years on end in exchange for the purchase of an "unspoiled replica of themselves" is not fit to raise anyone.
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In your world, who then adopts the newborns?
 
ABM said:
In your world, who then adopts the newborns?
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In my world, people don't have children they don't want.

In this world, newborns are rarely born without at least one parent and no adoption is needed. :sherlock:

Of course, in a fantasy world where abortion was magically eliminated (outlawing it has no effect) there would indeed be many unwanted newborns and then my friend wouldn't have to pay $40,000 for a baby from a white-slave trader/lawyer.

Supply and demand rules. It's Capitalism at it's worst.
 
MARIS61 said:
Supply and demand rules. It's Capitalism at it's worst.
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Standing in line at the government warehouse on Tuesdays to get a loaf of bread and a slice of cheese is how it works where there isn't capitalism.
 
Denny Crane said:
Standing in line at the government warehouse on Tuesdays to get a loaf of bread and a slice of cheese is how it works where there isn't capitalism.
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I wasn't attacking Capitalism, I'm all for it.

But it's very limiting and like all good things, it's best in moderation.

I make my living through capitalism (that's basically all it's good for), but I also practice parts of many other ideologies including socialism, communism, totalitarianism, nepotism, and of course skepticism.

Creating babies for the sole purpose of selling them is disgustingly evil IMO, and I'm flabbergasted that it's legal in our once-proud country.
 
MARIS61 said:
That's exactly what the fuss is all about.

As with political candidates, political viewpoints should have equal access.

CBS should have to make available equal time during the Stuporbowl for Pro-choice viewpoints.
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Isn't the point of the ad pro-choice? She was told she should abort the child and chose to keep it.

I'm pro-choice, but that choice cuts both ways.
 
People constantly talk about how irresponsible people get pregnant and the kids' lives are ruined. I wonder how many irresponsible people have had their lives straightened out by getting pregnant in the first place? Having a child has a way of sorting your life out in a hurry.
 
maxiep said:
Isn't the point of the ad pro-choice? She was told she should abort the child and chose to keep it.

I'm pro-choice, but that choice cuts both ways.
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She was not told anything of the sort. Her entire tale is obviously pure fiction, and poorly conceived at that. They are probably editing it as we speak to keep from getting sued by Allred.

Pro choice would imply at least 1 other viable option. The ad will not make that point.

Pro choice means you can have an abortion or have a baby or use a condom or practice abstinence. The ad will not make that point.
 
MARIS61 said:
She was not told anything of the sort. Her entire tale is obviously pure fiction, and poorly conceived at that. They are probably editing it as we speak to keep from getting sued by Allred.
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link?

MARIS61 said:
Pro choice would imply at least 1 other viable option. The ad will not make that point.

Pro choice means you can have an abortion or have a baby or use a condom or practice abstinence. The ad will not make that point.
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She made a choice. You don't like the choice.
 
Talk about anticlimactic. :lol:
 
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