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Assuming Hedo signs with us, consider what the Blazers will look like next year:

Subtraction: Frye and Sergio (thank God!)

Addition: Hedo Turkoglu for outside shooting, pick and roll play, and crunch-time performance.

Addition: Martell Webster for much improved outside shooting.

Are you kidding me? Now that's a team to love! Even if we don't make another move, I'm already excited about next year!!

Go Blazers!
 
Don't count on Webster, it's been a year and his foot is still not better.
 
Is that right? Got any links?

Mostly just anecdotes from various courtside shows, the occasional snippet from Ben at Blazersedge.com and it's been mentioned at points in the past couple of episodes of the trailblazers.com podcast.
 
Don't count on Webster, it's been a year and his foot is still not better.


I'm beginning to be concerned about Websters career, and whether or not he will be able to recover and play again. Make no mistake about it, I am a Martell Webster fan, but if I am wondering whether or not he will ever be able to play again surely other teams would have the same concern. I'm thinking his trade value is about nil, and can't imagine why any team would want to take on his contract when there is a good possibility they will get nothing in return.

By their actions the Blazers are not demonstrating the confidence Webster will be able to play again that they showed when they gave him the new contract. If they were afraid Martell would not be able to play again they most likely would not share those concerns publicly.

Travis has said several times since the end of the season that he expects to be traded.

If Outlaw is traded and Webster not available to play, then all we have at SF is Nic Batum, unless you bring in Hedo or another SF.

I'm still hoping KP has another target in mind.....Devin Harris.

Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw and Rudy might get it done. It works under the cap.
 
Everytime I see someone say Martell Webster will give us much improved outside shooting I laugh.


His career best is lower than Outlaw's average last year and barely better than Batum's this season.
 
Everytime I see someone say Martell Webster will give us much improved outside shooting I laugh.


His career best is lower than Outlaw's average last year and barely better than Batum's this season.
Good point, but I keep hoping he's going to develop more confidence. He's shown the potential to be a big-time shooter (remember the 24-point quarter?) and I think he can do it if he's healthy.
 
Good point, but I keep hoping he's going to develop more confidence. He's shown the potential to be a big-time shooter (remember the 24-point quarter?) and I think he can do it if he's healthy.



I think the fact the we all remember the 24 point qurster speaks volumes. In other words, he has never really done anything else.
 
Assuming Hedo signs with us, consider what the Blazers will look like next year:

Subtraction: Frye and Sergio (thank God!)

Addition: Hedo Turkoglu for outside shooting, pick and roll play, and crunch-time performance.

Addition: Martell Webster for much improved outside shooting.

Are you kidding me? Now that's a team to love! Even if we don't make another move, I'm already excited about next year!!

Go Blazers!

Me too. I am still holding my breath on Webster though, I hope the best for him. You know there has to be a problem when a normal stress fracture heals in 2 to 4 weeks. We are coming up on a year here soon.
 
I think the fact the we all remember the 24 point qurster speaks volumes. In other words, he has never really done anything else.

No I think it is from actually watching him shoot that gives people confidence in his outside shot. Forget the fucking stats as it does not tell the whole picture. (Like who is guarding you.... the teams best player or a second string PF, like the tempo of the game, like being forced to take a shot as the shot clock or quarter winds down) Just watch him shoot and you will know that Dallas will never try zoning us with him on the floor.
 
No I think it is from actually watching him shoot that gives people confidence in his outside shot. Forget the fucking stats as it does not tell the whole picture. (Like who is guarding you.... the teams best player or a second string PF, like the tempo of the game, like being forced to take a shot as the shot clock or quarter winds down) Just watch him shoot and you will know that Dallas will never try zoning us with him on the floor.



Martell's best season was .388 from 3pt.

That would have finished 58th in the league last season.
 
Thanks Shooter for the thread. I am also very excited about this team and hope that Oden/LMA make big leaps in their games and help us a lot next year.

If we sign Hedo (I think we will) I am getting excited about the thoughts of what he brings to this team. His ability to help make everybody around him (mainly Oden) better, gets me going.

I am trying to be patient about the PG spot and see what KP does this summer, but I trust he will make the right decision.
 
According to wikipedia, Hedo already is a Trail Blazer. Sweet! Way to go whoever edited that.
 
Thanks Shooter for the thread. I am also very excited about this team and hope that Oden/LMA make big leaps in their games and help us a lot next year.
All we heard on this board last season was how awful Rodriquez and Frye were. Now that they are both gone, people should be pleased as punch for that reason alone.
 
All we heard on this board last season was how awful Rodriquez and Frye were. Now that they are both gone, people should be pleased as punch for that reason alone.



I am. The team should be better without them. I wouldn't honestly be upset at all if it weren't for 2 years of the Blazers pointing to the summer as the year we were supposed to add a big piece.
 
Methodically, the team has improved the team.

We added Claver & Mills to our already bulging bag of prospects, which already includes Freeland & Koponen.

We added frontcourt toughness with Pendergraph & Cunningham, while subtracting Frye, Ruffin, Randolph, and Lafrentz, who's skill sets don't fit.

We added Hedo in place of who I presume will be Outlaw, which brings us more efficient scoring and playmaking.

Next up, we'll replace either Blake or Bayless in conjunction with Travis to upgrade our defense at the opposite-of-Brandon guard spot. This is a masterful off-season so far!
 
I held the record for the 100 meter dash for 11 minutes in 2001.

Nice. Some friends of mine, all much younger an still in college, play a drinking game wih Wik. Whoever has their "achievement" up the longest doesn't have to drink
 
MM, I had "My Achievement" up last night with your girl!
 
All we heard on this board last season was how awful Rodriquez and Frye were. Now that they are both gone, people should be pleased as punch for that reason alone.

I never thought that Sergio was bad, and while I DO think that Frye was horrible, we're going to be replacing him with mediocre four year college seniors that we got in the second round... I don't think that's anything approaching an upgrade, personally.

Our team is still young and still very talented. Hedo should give us a slight bump but he won't really be contributing that much to the excitement I feel about this team (which is Roy-, Oden-, and Aldridge-driven).

Ed O.
 
I talked my girl, or your mom....same thing, and she said it was more like an underacievement. Again, only up for a few minutes.

EdO! I thought you were supposed to be on the look-out for these blatant attacks!
 
I don't think KP is done making moves either. I don't think we go into the season with Hedo, Nicolas, Travis and Martell on the team. Someone's going to be gone.
 
Methodically, the team has improved the team.

We added Claver & Mills to our already bulging bag of prospects, which already includes Freeland & Koponen.

We added frontcourt toughness with Pendergraph & Cunningham, while subtracting Frye, Ruffin, Randolph, and Lafrentz, who's skill sets don't fit.

We added Hedo in place of who I presume will be Outlaw, which brings us more efficient scoring and playmaking.

Next up, we'll replace either Blake or Bayless in conjunction with Travis to upgrade our defense at the opposite-of-Brandon guard spot. This is a masterful off-season so far!



As of today, the off-season grade is sitting at a "B" in my opinion.


We now need to package up two of the following players to go get a point guard for our future OR trade all four and get both a PG and a true banger PF:


Outlaw / Rudy Blake / Bayless


The "A" will be handed out IF and ONLY IF we get something good:

My list looks like this:

PG = Harris / Flynn / Rubio / Sessions / Nash / Little Nate [I'm excluding Hinrich / Miller]

PF = Lee / Maxiel / Bass / Jaimison [I'm excluding Thomas et al]



Then KP gets an "A"
 
We still need a PG, imo. Either a vet, or a up and coming star like Sessions.

One thing that is interesting about Hedo, though, is that he knows how to play with a big man. He played with Dwight for a while, hopefully this will benefit Greg (at least on offense, because it won't on D).

Anyway, I don't hate the Hedo signing, I would have just liked to go after a PG rather than an older SF who doesn't play the D i'd like at the 3. But its possible he was the best player available by a good amount, and we may not be done. We will see. Can't judge until training camp, imo.
 
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We still need a PG, imo. Either a vet, or a up and coming star like Sessions.

Sessions is still my hope. Once Milwaukee cut ties with Villanueva and extended a QO to Sessions, it was clear they weren't going to let him be signed away. That's fine...but they might trade him, since that still means not losing him for nothing. They did draft Brandon Jennings, so it's not exactly as if they've committed the franchise to Sessions.

But in any case, I am certainly hoping for a deal that cuts away some of the small forwards and brings back a good point guard. That would make this a great off-season. As it stands right now, it's a decent one.
 

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