I Need To Stop Trying To Help Y'all Gain Perspective

[Denny Crane]

And politicians are supposed to tell the truth.

Time after time these cops do scandalous shit. The apply force where it isn't necessarily needed every day. They plant faulty "evidence". They kill us while being unarmed almost everyday.

If you're afraid of letting in Syrian refugees because you think one of them might be a terrorist, how come you don't understand my fear of every police officer because I think one might be a murderer?

+1

Especially the bolded part.

Police should be held to a much higher standard. They're trained. They're supposed to serve and protect. They work for us. We give them all the tools and sufficient funding to do the job right.

Benefit of the doubt, in all things, goes to the individual. (That's the libertarian way).

A decade ago, a real conservative wouldn't be defending these cops. They had a libertarian bent. The tea partiers are really hypocritical if they're defending the cops, too.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

its true! there is nothing more edgy than math!

 

[blue32]

its true! there is nothing more edgy than math!

Except you offered no math, aside from whatever you're assuming in your head. Of course that is, unless you have some published numbers to back up your claims?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Except you offered no math, aside from whatever you're assuming in your head. Of course that is, unless you have some published numbers to back up your claims?

I guess if you like wasting taxpayer money it makes sense.

https://www.inverse.com/amp/article...-applicants-is-a-huge-waste-of-taxpayer-money

http://www.forbes.com/sites/judysto...ing-walker-scott-and-political-pandering/amp/

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html

 

[3RA1N1AC]

To be clear, do you want to drug test every welfare recipient? The states that test generally just test "suspicious" people.

 

[blue32]

I guess if you like wasting taxpayer money it makes sense.

https://www.inverse.com/amp/article...-applicants-is-a-huge-waste-of-taxpayer-money

http://www.forbes.com/sites/judysto...ing-walker-scott-and-political-pandering/amp/

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html

There ya go! finally some actual evidence to support your post. Well done sir, you're finally graduating from legos to construx's.

To be clear, do you want to drug test every welfare recipient? The states that test generally just test "suspicious" people.

Me? I'd go for a quarterly drug test, or some sort of program where they have to prove they are not abusing tax payer money and/or that they still need it. A program like that though would require some serious thought.

Honestly, I would like to reduce the amount of fraud in these types of programs any way possible.

 

[blue32]

So was the gun planted, or picked up, cleared and dropped? (is that even protocol?)

 

[3RA1N1AC]

finally some actual evidence to support your post.

So after reading about how incredibly wasteful your idea would be, you are still in favor of it? I think you should probably start out with Lincoln logs, and work your way up to Legos. Try not to eat them.

 

[blue32]

So after reading about how incredibly wasteful your idea would be, you are still in favor of it? I think you should probably start out with Lincoln logs, and work your way up to Legos. Try not to eat them.

Stealing my jokes good sir? Come on you're smarter than that. Well it is in your username.


And read my post for clarification on what I would like to do.

 

[dviss1]

Well, I am not inferring anything about what Police may think. I am simply making a statistical statement to refute the fact that DVISS is scared of the police more so than his own race, which is more likely to kill him than a police officer. I think the stat is something like 45% or higher for black on black, from the last census/crime sheet from the FBI. (might be a little off)

Now, both you and I agree there are bad fucking cops out there and we've been on the receiving end of that stick.

You could go on to cite that Blacks are what 2.5 times or 4 times (dont have that stat handy) to die by police than other races, but again, the number of police shootings against blacks are far fewer than black on black murder.

Also, blacks make up around 13-14% of the population (2012), yet their share of the overall crime committed far exceeds all other races, except whites since they comprise of about 78% of the population.
You think to yourself, "see whites commit more crimes", but you reverse those numbers, and blacks are 78% of the population? Well the numbers skyrocket.
Normalizing the numbers doesn't help and you will still see black crime higher than whites.

So the data I am reading online (google it if you want) shows that while nonviolent crime are committed pretty much the same for each race, blacks commit more violent/aggressive crimes for their respective population.

https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313
stats pulled from the US census Bureau and FBI.

Bro.... I live in conservative Milwaukie.

 

[dviss1]

Video of the Charlotte shooting is out. The cops never look good in these.

A woman is begging them not to shoot.

Link? Nvm

 

[dviss1]

So was the gun planted, or picked up, cleared and dropped? (is that even protocol?)

 

[blue32]

I don't like it either. I want an explanation.

 

[dviss1]

I don't like it either. I want an explanation.

My goodness....

 

[blue32]

My goodness....

I'm not sure what you're inferring here but the only thing I can think of is that the police picked it up to clear it and then put it back. But like I asked earlier, is that even proper protocol?

Otherwise it was a clear plant and that fuck wad needs to go to jail.

 

[dviss1]

I guess if you like wasting taxpayer money it makes sense.

https://www.inverse.com/amp/article...-applicants-is-a-huge-waste-of-taxpayer-money

http://www.forbes.com/sites/judysto...ing-walker-scott-and-political-pandering/amp/

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html

Not to mention it's unconstitutional and has been deemed so in a court of law.

 

[dviss1]

I'm not sure what you're inferring here but the only thing I can think of is that the police picked it up to clear it and then put it back. But like I asked earlier, is that even proper protocol?

Otherwise it was a clear plant and that fuck wad needs to go to jail.

It's not protocol to pick up the weapon with your bare hands. IMO it's clearly planted. The officer on the far right is the one who dropped it.

 

[blue32]

It's not protocol to pick up the weapon with your bare hands. IMO it's clearly planted. The officer on the far right is the one who dropped it.

Then he will fry. Good riddance.

 

[Sinobas]

Because there are some of you who truly don't give a shit. And a LOT of you (@SlyPokerDog included) who think it's funny to to mock #BlackLivesMatter with your #whateverthefuck matters posts need to stop that shit. It's truly insulting. You see, this doesn't happen to white people. If your car breaks down in the middle of the street the cop would help you get a tow truck. Us? No.... We get guns drawn and even though we have our hands in the air (the guns should've NEVER been drawn in the first place) we're shot and killed, and left to die in the street! The fucking PIG didn't even check his pulse....

You wanna be upset about someone having a seat or taking a damn knee during the national anthem while we are being shot down like we're being chased by the slave patrol in 1830?

Yes he was unarmed on his person AND his vehicle!

Before he was shot the officer in the helicopter said "he looked like a really bad dude."

What? Big and black? That equates bad? What the actual FUCK!

Now everytime a black man is shot by police it becomes a national story, even if the guy was weilding a gun, and some people immediately protest before the facts of the case have been revealed. The stats simply don't bear out the notion that blacks are shot disporportionately. We as a society definitly do need to be watch dogs over the police force and demand justice when their use of force is out of line. But this racial stuff is bullshit.

 

[dviss1]

Then he will fry. Good riddance.

If more of them are prosecuted you'll see this happen less and less.

 

[dviss1]

Stars and bars be damned. I'll RIDE WITH YOU BILL!

 

[julius]

It's not protocol to pick up the weapon with your bare hands. IMO it's clearly planted. The officer on the far right is the one who dropped it.

to me, it looked like it flew in from the left, tho with the video being sub par, it's hard to tell.

But it sure seems to suggest something fishy.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I was mainly just ribbing you a bit, but I would never call another human being an animal in a derogatory way. When protests turn violent, I think rioters is a perfectly good description. People that stop cars don't seem like rioters to me, more of an unorganized protest or demonstration, but I guess if you want to describe them as rioters you probably won't offend too many people. But, hey, I'm not the official PC police. It's a free country. Just don't be surprised if you use derogatory terms towards people that you might get called out on it.

I'm 3 pages behind and have to read further but I'd have called Dahmer an animal.

I think we put artificial limits on our feelings to be nice. If you feel like calling someone something, do it and he honest about it.

 

[MarAzul]

But it sure seems to suggest something fishy.

There are more fish swimming around this story than I can count. What the hell has gone down?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

My goodness....

It is super fucking blurry but I watched it and clicked pause and start 50 times. The big guy in the red shirt bends over to holster his gun, the black guy in the middle looks to be holding a gun aimed at the guy on the ground. Just after the big guy holsters his gun, the black guy flicks his gun to the left like it is on fire. That black object comes from the left to the right.

We need more video. This shit is ridiculous.

EDIT, see below. It was a fucking glove.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't even think it was a gun, it would have bounced a few times. It came in from an angle and just stopped where it hit.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I still don't know if the guy had a gun or not but the cops are handing each other black gloves, probably nitrile. I use them at work every day. The video here was blurry as fuck. This one on yahoo is way better. They clearly thought he had a gun whether he did or did not.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/charlotte-stays-largely-peaceful-during-3rd-night-protest-062125956.html

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

to me, it looked like it flew in from the left, tho with the video being sub par, it's hard to tell.

But it sure seems to suggest something fishy.

see above video. it's a glove.

Her telling her husband "don't you do it" over and over doesn't sound like he didn't have a gun.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

They could have been putting on gloves to plant their clean hidden gun on him for all I know but it sure doesn't look like it. More likely they are putting on gloves to touch a blood covered guy they shot multiple times.

 

[dviss1]

An Unarmed White Man Is Shot by a Cop, and Black Activists Rally

http://www.laweekly.com/news/an-unarmed-white-man-is-shot-by-a-cop-and-black-activists-rally-7216759

Why haven't we heard about this? Maybe because the media has an agenda...