I think Pritchard got fired because he passed on Durant.

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Template of bi-weekly "Oden vs. Durant" thread:

"I still feel the same way I did two days ago."
"What? I mean, I still do too, but how could you?"
"Wait, you still feel the same way you did two days ago?"
"Indeed. Let's re-visit this in a few days."
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm just pointing out that in the months leading up to the draft it wasn't quite the unanimous decision that some people are making it out to be.
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Fair enough. There were a couple of people from the "other camp" that were praying on the stats that Durant was putting up in college while Oden obviously was playing left-handed after the high school injury that carried over into the beginning of his OSU season. So there were the minority out there posting fodder (just like there are a few folks out there that post about UFO's existing and government cover-ups and follow Bigfoot and Lochness Monster sitings on their Twitter) but the folks who actually have to feed their families based on having correct projections and actually have to hold their heads up and be held accountable for their final rankings such as scouts, draft analysts covering the draft and mock draft websties all were unified in Oden being the clear #1 overall pick. So all 29 other GM's would have been unified as well had it been their pick.
 
espn_hall_of_famer said:
So far the only smart additions to the thread were those who said if picking a consensus #1 overall pick by every NBA scout and 39 of the 40 mock drafting firms would cause a GM to be fired, then 29 other GM's would have also gotten fired had they been drafting in the same spot. Simple as that.
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So basically your saying that I am the smartest one here! See forum geeks, my PER is rising by the day!
 
HCP said:
So basically your saying that I am the smartest one here! See forum geeks, my PER is rising by the day!
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Actually "PER" would imply your intelligence PER post. Due to the quantity of post you do and how many really don't add much, your PER wouldn't be too good.
 
espn_hall_of_famer said:
Actually "PER" would imply your intelligence PER post. Due to the quantity of post you do and how many really don't add much, your PER wouldn't be too good.
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So I'm considered and A.I. type volume shooter? I can live with that!
 
HCP said:
So I'm considered and A.I. type volume shooter? I can live with that!
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Spot on. You're a chucker. Nothing wrong with that. You put up a lot of shots and the 30% you get right are enough to make you an all-star.
 
If the Blazers drafted Durant, nobody would have said the next day that it was a foolish pick. Nobody said that about picking Oden, either.
 
Denny, I forgot to tell you last month I was down in SD! Poway and Imperial Beach! I asked around and nobody seemed to know who you were.
 
Who was with your wife while you were here?
 
She was with me and wanted to meet you.
 
espn_hall_of_famer said:
This thread just knocked down the intelligence level of this messageboard community by a notch. I really would have expected a little more from this group.

So far the only smart additions to the thread were those who said if picking a consensus #1 overall pick by every NBA scout and 39 of the 40 mock drafting firms would cause a GM to be fired, then 29 other GM's would have also gotten fired had they been drafting in the same spot. Simple as that.
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In what scenario are 29 GMs fired?
 
Furthermore, if picking Oden was the wrong pick, each GM who would've picked Oden had they had the #1 pick should've been fired. Why keep a GM who makes bad decisions? But that's not what happened.
 
I have not yet applied to become a professional sports GM, because I want to build a career first. I still err due to my youth. But even I would have drafted Durant.

That alone may get me the job, but I must publish my opinion early to establish my credentials later, so I have registered on this message board to record such a history of correct choices and build a resume.
 
KingSpeed said:
Which also means no championships.

Buck > Jordan? LOL!
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Your logic is flawed, you're assuming Jordan would make it to the Finals with Drexler and Co., but that isn't a certainty. Jordan never made a dent in the Playoffs until Pippen arrived.

These are all hypothetical situations to begin with.

I believe Buck was the missing piece to our team in the Late 80's/Early 90's, as well as Pippen was the perfect running mate for Jordan.

Whose to say any of those pieces would fit together anywhere else? After all, Basketball is a team sport.
 
KingSpeed said:
In what scenario are 29 GMs fired?
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You're making it more complicated than it really is.

Look at it from a logical argument standpoint.

Original premise from the thread title: KP was fired because he picked Oden over Durant.

Reason: GM picks player A over player B with knowledge he has as of that day.

Knowledge as of that day: Player A had 19 of 20 firms/draft experts who spend 2080 hours a year to become the subject matter experts in this topic all ahead of player B. GM's can only use a couple hundred hours and info from these sources to make their decisions.

History: In the history of tracking consensus #1 overall picks, the other times there have been 95% or higher consensus on a pick have been - Shaq, LeBron, Oden, Rose, Blake Griffin and John Wall.

Conclusion: If a GM being fired is directly caused by picking the #1 overall pick that 95% or higher of the draft firms that rate these guys for a living had as the consensus #1 pick. And the scenario in the reply is that the other 29 GMs would have also had the #1 overall pick that year in 30 different scenarios. Then all 30 GMs would had to have been fired since they all would have made the same decision as all 95%+ higher consensus picks have been picked #1 by the picking GM in the history of the draft.
 
^ Man, I need to hire you as my lawyer and write any of my press releases!
 
XXPrimusXX said:
Ever heard of Clyde Drexler? :deadhorse:

And without Bowie, we would have never gotten Buck, which in my estimation means no NBA Finals appearances.
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What's the point if we didn't actually win the title?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So basically you all are bitching because we won the lottery. If we got #2, or not even moved up (and probably picked Noah) you would have no complaints.

It's funny, I don't wish we had Durant, even though I can see he's an amazing offensive force. He's just kind of... boring. Tall jumpshooter. Woo-woo.
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Think of this as well. Had Seattle won the lottery, and then picked Oden (which they would have done), Cho would not be our GM, and he may even be unemployed. Instead, dropping to #2 by luck made him a hot commodity.
 
XXPrimusXX said:
You can't even take pride in making it to the dance in the first place? Tough crowd...
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At the expense of arguably the greatest player ever? No, I wouldn't call that a good "trade." In Portland's place, I'd rather toss back Bowie/Buck Williams/the Finals appearance for a chance to see what Jordan and Drexler could do.
 
Minstrel said:
At the expense of arguably the greatest player ever? No, I wouldn't call that a good "trade." In Portland's place, I'd rather toss back Bowie/Buck Williams/the Finals appearance for a chance to see what Jordan and Drexler could do.
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I guess I just don't see the point of dwelling on the past.

"Oh, what COULD have been!"
 
XXPrimusXX said:
Your logic is flawed, you're assuming Jordan would make it to the Finals with Drexler and Co., but that isn't a certainty. Jordan never made a dent in the Playoffs until Pippen arrived.

These are all hypothetical situations to begin with.

I believe Buck was the missing piece to our team in the Late 80's/Early 90's, as well as Pippen was the perfect running mate for Jordan.

Whose to say any of those pieces would fit together anywhere else? After all, Basketball is a team sport.
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My logic is sound.

A) We won 0 championships with Buck.

B) Jordan is better than Buck Williams

Those are the two statements I made in my post. We may haven't won any titles with Jordan but we definitely won zero with Buck.
 
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KingSpeed said:
My logic is sound.

A) We won 0 championships with Buck.

B) Jordan is better than Buck Williams

Those are the two statements I made in my post. We may haven't won any titles with Jordan but we definitely won zero with Buck.
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Just as long as you don't make the assumption that Portland would win championships with Jordan as if it were a foregone conclusion.

Considering we are changing history with this hypothetical scenario (1.21 GIGAWATTS!), there's no way to know what the results would have been.

Like I said, I don't see the point in being so concerned over something that is done and over with. Durant is NOT a Blazer, never will be. Oden was our pick, deal with it.

Why spend so much time on the topic?
 
Please, could people watch football or baseball, or read a book, or go for a walk, or take up knitting, or learn to dance, or jerk off? Anything more productive than an endless argument based on total speculation? Is it worth reading after Page 1 (I didn't)?

Qyntel Woods and Greg Oden? Someone has too much time on his/her/its hand.
 
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