I WOULD LIKE RICK NASH TO TAKE HIS STICK

[Messiah717]

Dust it off, turn it sideways and stick it up his candy ass.

Piece of shit fucking asshole.

 

[chuckd3534]

Wait, he threw some nice checks though, and played hard on the PK. Plus he had a lot of shots. That is way more important than the fact he had 3 goals in 25 playoff games, and missed an empty net. Worth 7.8 per for sure.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Not even classic The Rock will get me to smile

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[Messiah717]

Not even classic The Rock will get me to smile

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I know just trying to mix frustration with a little levity. In all seriousness they have a major problem with this guy if you ask me.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

And I am a huge Rock fan too....but im so sick right now...

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[chuckd3534]

SOFT AS CHARMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Messiah717]

You win and lose as a team which anyone would agree with. That being said when your highest paid winger gives you nothing in 20+ playoff games it's inexcusable.

 

[Disturbed]

It really is amazing how worthless and soft Nash is when the games matter

I still think he is tradeable but his value is not great I would admit

The team got next to nothing from Richards, Nash and Girardi and still gave the Kings a fight

 

[mrmel29]

I expect to see girardi having surgery on the 2 torn ACL's he must have to explain his piss poor play in the playoffs. If he did that healthy we are in trouble.

 

[MrSleeps]

guys, we know nash sucked this post season, this loss is on him , your best player gets out scored by your 4th line center who plays a fraction of the time as you, it sucks... we are stuck with him.... just pray that he works on his game this off season and scores 50 next year. i dont know, i dont want to hear anything more about this piece of shit. ok

 

[Messiah717]

The epitome of Nash was not being able to get that puck into the empty net in OT. I know it went off a stick for another lucky LA break but it was just typical.

 

[Ranger71]

That's what is a little worrysome, that Girardi will be making 5m when he's a 2nd pair talent wise.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

If Nash had the playoff Gaborik had. They would have won the cup. Imagine that, Gabby killed us this series.

 

[vette322]

Rangers are stuck with two horrible contracts - Nash and Girardi. No way around that, and no way to get any relief from that. After these playoffs, neither guy would be attractive at all to another team.

Nash has a chance if he really take a good hard look at himself, and takes it personal as to how badly he let this team down. Girardi - dumb contract, limited talent - type of guy who got paid and will turn to shit real fast. That last part has already happened. Dan Girardi = Brian McCann.

 

[chuckd3534]

Disagree totally on Girardi. I know it will now be the in thing to knock him and his contract and forget ALL the good he did and does because of a bad 5 game series against the Kings, but I won't forget it.

The guy is a # 2/3 dman. Lower 1st pair upper 2nd pair guy. That is what he is. At his cap hit that is reasonable, even if you think he is a # 3 guy period.

So I disagree and believe his contract is just fine in the 5's.

With that said, we do need another top 4 dman to add to McD, Girardi, and Staal, that I believe. Our 3rd pair is very solid with Klein and Moore. And maybe McIlrath can get into that mix next season. But another top 4 guy, and an upgrade over Stralman is needed to round us out. And he needs to be a big physical guy as well. That needs to be a big focus this summer IMO. Maybe Orpik?

 

[Disturbed]

Disagree totally on Girardi. I know it will now be the in thing to knock him and his contract and forget ALL the good he did and does because of a bad 5 game series against the Kings, but I won't forget it.

The guy is a # 2/3 dman. Lower 1st pair upper 2nd pair guy. That is what he is. At his cap hit that is reasonable, even if you think he is a # 3 guy period.

So I disagree and believe his contract is just fine in the 5's.

With that said, we do need another top 4 dman to add to McD, Girardi, and Staal, that I believe. Our 3rd pair is very solid with Klein and Moore. And maybe McIlrath can get into that mix next season. But another top 4 guy, and an upgrade over Stralman is needed to round us out. And he needs to be a big physical guy as well. That needs to be a big focus this summer IMO. Maybe Orpik?

Totally agree with you Chuck

 

[Messiah717]

Girardi didn't play well but he's fine. Especially if the Rangers improve the defense with some size and a guy who can actually shoot the puck effectively from the point. Nash is the one that absolutely killed them. Not a single point in the finals. No goals in three of the four rounds. As has been discussed except for an 11 goal month in the regular season he pretty much sucked there also. He needs to look himself in the mirror and make the decision to play like an animal next season. A 35-40 goal year.

 

[chuckd3534]

I would be more concerned about Staal than Girardi. Staal was terrible after the Flyer series where he was great. Not sure what the future holds for him. He could get dealt if they don't get a new deal done this summer.

Girardi will be fine as a # 2 or 3 dman. Staal I am more concerned with moving forward. And he is a UFA next summer as well.

And something else on Staal, his O has regressed. Almost zero ability to score or get points. His game has regressed. Injuries hurt him no doubt, but he never became the player we hoped he would 2 or 3 years ago.

What we do with Staal over the next 12 months will be very interesting to watch.

 

[Messiah717]

Staal is another guy who I think will be looking to have a big season next year. I give him some what of a break considering the eye injury he came back from and then also having to deal with a concussion.

 

[mrmel29]

Girardi didn't play well but he's fine. Especially if the Rangers improve the defense with some size and a guy who can actually shoot the puck effectively from the point. Nash is the one that absolutely killed them. Not a single point in the finals. No goals in three of the four rounds. As has been discussed except for an 11 goal month in the regular season he pretty much sucked there also. He needs to look himself in the mirror and make the decision to play like an animal next season. A 35-40 goal year.

Mess, I agree with you we need someone to run that pp on top that can shoot. I'm in the minority hear with Nash but I'm still not convinced he is completely over the effects of the 2 concussions. It takes time. As for the finals I thought he was far from invisible and did some good things. He didn't score any points in the finals but was completely snakebitten. As for the actual plays I can remember he set up kreids perfectly in one of the OT's and Kreids hit the post and in OT yesterday only a god damn fluke play by the defender deflecting his shot with the shaft of his stick kept that puck from being an OT winner for us. That would have directly involved him in 2 of our cup final wins. One of the things also with Nash is on AV for not having him out there on the PP instead of friggin richards. I say we have to give him at least next year to clear the rest of the cobwebs out and see what we have. Al will like this baseball analogy but it is hard to think nash went from cy young to cyanara in 2 years. His value will be low now anyway so even if he agreed to a trade we'd be just about giving him away. I say stay patient with nash for at least next season and hopefully we get rewarded.

 

[Messiah717]

That will be a great thing about the Richards buyout. He will no longer be on the point during the PP. That being said the Rangers need somebody who can actually play the point and bomb away shots on the power play.

 

[theProdigy223]

Not looking to make excuses for him but that concussion absolutely messed with his head. He had never been that scared of contact while he had the puck. Yeah he was asserting himself on defense and laying some nice hits thru the playoffs, but you have much more control over the contact when you're the one initiating it. The power move on offense was completely gone from his game and has been since he went out. He needs to take a long look in the mirror this offseason and decide if he wants to nut up or not. Without that power move and puck carrying ability he is a very average player

 

[chuckd3534]

Agree Prod. That's what it is about with Nash now. I am sure the concussions play a role still, but playing the way he has doesn't work. He is average at best as you said. Let's hope after a summer to relax he comes back and plays with a fire and gets his power game going again. That is what he needs to do in order to be a success. If he can't/doesn't do it, we are f'd.

Nash had 0 goals in 3 of 4 series. Nash had 0 points in the SCF. I respect the fact that you are trying to be positive mel, but come on bro. Nash was pretty much invisible out there man. Of course he had a few chances, and setup a few chances, but what does that mean? He plays 15 + mpg, so he will get/create a chance here or there. That's just obvious IMO. To say anything outside of Nash was almost invisible out there is a real stretch. 0 goals and 0 points in the SCF. 0 goals in 3 of 4 series. This guy has a 7.8 mill cap hit to score goals, not to check and play on the PK.

 

[NYR1962]

There is no bigger non-Nash fan than me on these boards as you all know. I didn't want him here in the 1st place and Dubi was exactly the type of center we needed against LA. That being said, especailly with everyone killing him now, I'm going to make some positives points about Nash going forward and don't think we should trade him unless we got equal value.

If you really look at how he played during the playoffs, I believe he started a transformation. I know the results weren't there but he skated really hard, went to the dirty areas, actually hit people, some very hard, played good d, and got better looks as time went on. In the finals, I saw him skate harder than I ever have. He really tried to force his way to the net, even with defenders on his back. These are the things I used to kill him on. Maybe, just maybe, he's learned from this year what it takes to play in the playoffs and play in NYC. He has a great shot. He didn't just lose that, he became frustrated and squeezed the stick to sawdust. He also hasn't played with a great center (Stepan is the guy I would like to see moved). Not giving him a pass, but the seeds might have been sown for the future. Sometimes the results don't show up right away. We need to add a top playmaking center to set him up, as well as another scorer so the pressure isn't all on him to be the main scoring threat. He doesn't have the speed for that. Would love to see some responses to this.

 

[Ranger71]

They won't trade Nash, they know he still has it in him and saw the effort in the playoffs. A better C for him is half the battle. Perhaps there was still some lingering concern on his part about the concussion but he just seemed to be overhandling the puck at times and trying to do a little too much on his own.

 

[NYR1962]

I personally don't see the concussion as an excuse. The 10 or 12 game tear he went on was well after the concussion, and he had no problem going to the net then. If something happened to him after that, maybe, but I don't remember him missing any time. Totally agree with you about him trying to do too much. I'm thinking that was just determination to get some goals. Hoping that was part of the learning process and next year, maybe with a real good center, he'll let the game come to him.

 

[NYR31]

last night listening on radio they were interviewing someone about the Rangers and he mentioned about getting a big C (like Thornton) to create space for Nash rather than Nash having to create it for himself all the time. Thought it was an interesting point when looking at adding a center for next year. The Nash-Stepan experiment just isn't worth continuing and we need to find a way to unlock him if we're going to win a SC.

 

[RagFan4Ever]

Sad news He is and has been unlocked. Just not capable. Too soft with no heart. I think he also has a skating problem. I've never seen a guy with his size get knocked off the puck so easily.

 

[Ranger71]

Disagree totally on Girardi. I know it will now be the in thing to knock him and his contract and forget ALL the good he did and does because of a bad 5 game series against the Kings, but I won't forget it.

The guy is a # 2/3 dman. Lower 1st pair upper 2nd pair guy. That is what he is. At his cap hit that is reasonable, even if you think he is a # 3 guy period.

So I disagree and believe his contract is just fine in the 5's.

With that said, we do need another top 4 dman to add to McD, Girardi, and Staal, that I believe. Our 3rd pair is very solid with Klein and Moore. And maybe McIlrath can get into that mix next season. But another top 4 guy, and an upgrade over Stralman is needed to round us out. And he needs to be a big physical guy as well. That needs to be a big focus this summer IMO. Maybe Orpik?

It's fine for now, but I think in another 3 years they will be trying to get away from it. I agree with you on the rest of the points though, but we'll see with McIlrath.

 

[panzerporter]

I have heard a few analysts comment on Nash's conditioning since his concussion happened early in the season they felt he never had his legs. Even with short shifts Nash always seemed quickly winded. The Rangers should have him working with a trainer all off-season.