OT ICE shoots 2 people in Portland (6 Viewers)

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As many as it takes to "justify" putting this country under martial law. The way this is all ramping up cannot be an accident. The pot is now getting stirred in Seattle. This administration desperately wants us to respond aggressively. The elections are getting ever closer, the natives are getting restless and Trump nd his minions are getting nervous.
We can’t last 11 months without it going down. Damn.
 
If this was Portland Police and not Trump/ICE would you all feel the same way about this incident? I have a feeling you wouldn't. I 1000000% understand the hate for Trump/ICE, but sounds like these "victims" arent exactly innocent, regardless of who carried out the actions of arresting them. They are not good people, drug traffickers, gang members, sex traffickers, shooting suspects, etc.
 
If this was Portland Police and not Trump/ICE would you all feel the same way about this incident? I have a feeling you wouldn't. I 1000000% understand the hate for Trump/ICE, but sounds like these "victims" got what they deserved, regardless of who carried out the actions of arresting them. They are not good people, drug traffickers, gang members, sex traffickers, shooting suspects, etc.

If these people are as bad as ICE claims, the PPD should have been involved in their apprehension.

Also one report says there were only 2 ICE agents involved in their arrest.

If these people are truly as bad as the government is claiming, what an unprofessional, amateur, dumb way to try and arrest them.

In the parking lot of a hospital? Talk about a place ripe for civilians and medical professionals to be hurt or taken hostage.

A random person who found them shot 20 blocks away was the first to call police?!? That puts citizens and the police at risk.

Now I am saying this based on what I heard last night. I have not seen any new news or info on this. But based on what was reported last night, this was a joke of an operation and put innocent people at risk.
 
If this was Portland Police and not Trump/ICE would you all feel the same way about this incident? I have a feeling you wouldn't. I 1000000% understand the hate for Trump/ICE, but sounds like these "victims" arent exactly innocent, regardless of who carried out the actions of arresting them. They are not good people, drug traffickers, gang members, sex traffickers, shooting suspects, etc.

It sounds like that, but then the mom they shot in Minneapolis was supposedly a 'domestic terrorist', so what it sounds like from government reporting isn't exactly reliable. These were either really bad people, in which case Sly is right that the government did an incompetent job of detaining them, or they aren't bad people and the government is lying... again.

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If this was Portland Police and not Trump/ICE would you all feel the same way about this incident? I have a feeling you wouldn't. I 1000000% understand the hate for Trump/ICE, but sounds like these "victims" arent exactly innocent, regardless of who carried out the actions of arresting them. They are not good people, drug traffickers, gang members, sex traffickers, shooting suspects, etc.
After all the blatant lies we've heard from this particular Trump administration so far, I'm reluctant to take any information they put out face value, without doing a shit ton of investigating from other sources before making up my mind. Are you this quick with MRs. THE HCP??? I'll wait till I get all the facts......while acknowledging that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again. But like Sly says, two (poorly trained) "agents" to take down such a dangerous pair of "vicious gangsters"??? The hyperbole does not match the actions.....
 

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