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http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/1/29/742079/blasphemy

read the article 1st b4 commenting (it really is necessary)

shaq wants to break his tie with duncan for number of career nba championships (he said that motivates him)
shaq has a better chance in pdx than in phx (i think so)
shaq excels with great shooting guards (kb24, dwade)
no one else can mentor greg better than him (who else?)
he can coach our bigs as soon as he retire as a player (unless he wants to be a police officer like he said)
games go slower in the playoffs (players are tired by then =)
shaq and oden can play 24 minutes each (not bad at all)

crazy idea but 'd do it if ever the opportunity presents itself
(as long as our core remains here in the process like the article said)

how about u??
 
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Sure, if it didn't cost us anything major. Like, Brandon, LaMarcus, Greg, Rudy, Batum or Bayless.

And at this point in Shaqs career, it wouldn't.

How about Joel, Travis and Raef for Shaq a public apology to Sabonis, and the requirement that he actually get in shape.
 
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Not necessary! Don't want him!
 
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Sorry, but I don't even need to read it.

No.
 
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Because Shaq has too much pride to come off the bench. Would you want Shaq stunting Oden's growth by having Oden come off the bench of a 1 and a half seasons?
 
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I thought Shaq would've been great for Greg. I still do. I don't think it's worth it for RLEC and whatever group of lesser players we put in. I wanted this trade two summers ago.

Contractual stuff aside, I fully think Shaq could play good minutes for us. He'd be rested in back-to-backs, big time playoff presence, have a 3-man rotation for the next two years of Shaq, Oden and LMA. I think he'd really defer to Roy and work well with LMA. He's even stopped that "rest every back-to-back"

And let's get something straight...I'm not sure that there's been another center in the last 30 years that's combined personality/star wattage with dominant play like Shaq, and that Greg could definitely be on that level. Not Ewing, Parish, Kareem (at the end), Olajuwon, Admiral, etc. In the "mentorship" aspect, I think there's a lot more Greg can learn from Shaq than from Przy. (Though I love me some Przy).

Blake, Outlaw, (Frye or Diogu) and Joel for Shaq and Barnes works under trade machine and roster sizes. Then we'd still have RLEC, Barnes, Sergio, Webster, Diogu as trade bait for someone like Hinrich, Butler, etc. Or you could include both Diogu AND Frye and get Grant Hill back (which I'd really like) and either Barnes, Amundsen or Tucker for salary.
 
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Oh I get it.............. O..........Neal!!! Very nice! What if his name was Shamus Tyrone Jackson?
 
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HispanicCausinPanic said:
Shaq is Irish?
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100% Irish. ;)

The O'Neils and O'Neal’s can trace their family history back to A.D. 360, a rare teat among the families of Europe. They are descended from the royal family of Tara, who were kings of Ulster and monarchs of all Ireland from the 5th to the early 17th centuries. The name comes from Nial Ghin Dubh, or Niall of the Black Knee, who was a King of Ireland from 890 until he was killed in 919, His grandson Domhnall adopted the surname Neill, which means champion. In addition to the O'Neal’s of Ulster, where the family is most numerous, there were septs in Thomond (Counties Clare and Limerick), Decies (County Waterford)m and County Carlow.
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Link
 
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Washed up, lazy, self-centered tub of goo.

Bake it!
 
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I understand what he's saying.... but no. Yuck. I guess if you could get him without using RLEC.... but I wouldn't waste LaFrentz on Shaq. I don't think Shaq would make a big enough difference on this team to warrant the trade, and if we want to hire him to coach Oden, do it after he retires.
 
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I'm skeptical that Shaq would mentor Oden. Shaq doesn't seem like the mentoring type. More like the type who would make it his mission to try and embarrass Greg in practice, to prove a point. And considering Shaq is so much larger and more experienced, he probably could do that. Oden might learn from playing Shaq in practice, but I doubt Shaq would be trying to help Oden learn.

I think Shaq would cost more than he's worth. Since he's still moderately effective and has the aura of (formerly) one of the most dominant players ever, I think he'll always carry a premium on top of his actual value. I think the Suns would view him as an asset to get a significant young player or two and want at least one of Bayless, Rudy or Batum. That's too much for a season or two of Shaq as a backup.
 
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I would take Shaq in a heartbeat. He'd be a great backup center. Kind of like Bill Walton was for the Celtics.
 
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KingSpeed said:
I would take Shaq in a heartbeat. He'd be a great backup center. Kind of like Bill Walton was for the Celtics.
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But would he accept being a backup? The big Shaqastotle would be outraged and injure Oden in practice.

I'm not kidding either.
 
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Minstrel said:
I'm skeptical that Shaq would mentor Oden. Shaq doesn't seem like the mentoring type. More like the type who would make it his mission to try and embarrass Greg in practice, to prove a point. And considering Shaq is so much larger and more experienced, he probably could do that. Oden might learn from playing Shaq in practice, but I doubt Shaq would be trying to help Oden learn.

I think Shaq would cost more than he's worth. Since he's still moderately effective and has the aura of (formerly) one of the most dominant players ever, I think he'll always carry a premium on top of his actual value. I think the Suns would view him as an asset to get a significant young player or two and want at least one of Bayless, Rudy or Batum. That's too much for a season or two of Shaq as a backup.
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That's what worries me as well.
 
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NO, NO, how about a big fat NO. the ego on shaq is bigger than his actual body. he's not a mentor type and would do this team more harm than good. i don't understand the mindset of most of you on here. this team, even if you add shaq/nash is not winning it all this year. they are still green and need to learn how to win on the big stage. if we want to add a butler type player fine, but stop with this over the hill vetern crap.
 
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No, I have too much respect for Joel to do that too him. Joel showed so much loyalty to the club, it would be a disgrace to trade him now that we are finally good again.
 
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B-Roy said:
But would he accept being a backup? The big Shaqastotle would be outraged and injure Oden in practice.

I'm not kidding either.
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If he would accept it, I'm in.
 
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bigbailes said:
NO, NO, how about a big fat NO. the ego on shaq is bigger than his actual body. he's not a mentor type and would do this team more harm than good. i don't understand the mindset of most of you on here. this team, even if you add shaq/nash is not winning it all this year. they are still green and need to learn how to win on the big stage. if we want to add a butler type player fine, but stop with this over the hill vetern crap.
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Yeah, because over-the-hill veteran winners have never been part of championship teams. They're all self-made players who find out how to win on their own.

Oh, wait...I can't think of a single team in history that did that. But history is littered with guys like Kareem nearing 40 winning championships...old Robinson and young Duncan...Drexler going to HOU...etc.
 
Sure, if it didn't cost us anything major. Like, Brandon, LaMarcus, Greg, Rudy, Batum or Bayless.
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You consider Batum "major"???
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What he listed is basically our core right now, all 24 and under. Its really insane becacuse 4/6 are technically rookies this year.
 
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I like Shaq, respect his b-ball talent (although I think his size has a lot to do with it) and to some extent admire him. But I am not a Shaq fan or a supporter.

The idea of Shaq to the Blazers, however, should be a no-brainer. The answer should be a resounding "I'm sorry! Thank you but NO THANK YOU." Why the negative response - especially with the allure of Shaq? Afterall Shaq is Shaq. Well, ... Shaq may want to make a run at another Chapionship and the Blazers are without a doubt the best team to do it with. But you are going to have many players over the next few/several years trying to hitch up with the Blazers to ride their coat tails to a championship. And if anyone could put the Blazers over the top this year or next year I am sure it would be Shaq. But what then? Shaq is too unaffordable. I don't mean just salary wise because we all know Paul Allen could easily pay his $21 million pay check (not a real good idea to do so, though, but that is just my opinion). What I am referring to is by buying Shaq now, for a win now, we would be selling the future and the number of championships that we would undoubtedly walk away with. Getting Shaq would surely cost us Joel and Joel is worth a lot more than Shaq. Shaq is no longer in his prime. He is getting ready to hang it up and retire. On the other hand, Joel looks like he is still in his prime and hasn't peaked yet. This has to be one of his best years, if not the best. And I think there is more to come from him. Also, a deal for Shaq might cost us Outlaw. Now I know there are more than a few "non-Outlaw fans" out there that want to see him gone (I'm not one of them) but for KP's sake, do it for someone who is either an up and comer or who is just entering his prime and can make the team better for several years to come. Frankly, I like the team we have now - at least 10 out of the 15. If we could get Shaq for Diogu, Frye, and Bayless, I might reconsider but I fear the answer to that proposal would also be a big "NO" back from Phoenix.

Carry on Blazers!
JAFO
 
If we could get Shaq for Diogu, Frye, and Bayless, I might reconsider but I fear the answer to that proposal would also be a big "NO" back from Phoenix.
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Switch Bayless w/ Sergio and i'd think about it. No way i'd give any of the core-6 for Shaq.
 
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